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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 6, 2019 6:35:27 GMT -5
Wasn't the Gooker itself like this really super-hyped thing for weeks on end, and the payoff was the infamous guy in a turkey suit? I'm sure people were pretty pissed off at the time of the reveal, only being able to laugh at its pure absurdly well after the fact. Yeah, though I think it plays into another reason why it's tough to put into context today; the Gooker was a stupid idea, angle, etc., no doubt about it, but in the end it was a single segment during a show that fans of the product in 1990 would likely be enjoying the rest of, by and large, as WWF's product was still doing strong business at that time and still had a lot of popularity. With things not feeling so positive in 2018, I wonder if people have a harder time laughing at the crappy stuff since the rest of the product feels so subpar much of the time, so instead of a one-off "well, THAT was stupid" it's more "oh my God, this is too much." Granted, I do agree that the further away we are from something the easier it is to laugh at how bad an angle/match/etc. was, but I think a lot of North American wrestling fans basically got traumatized by the deaths of WCW and ECW, WWE entering such a long period of stagnation and decline, and the one major alternative since then, TNA, bungling just about every chance they got, so it makes laughing at funny crappy stuff harder to do sometimes because of those lingering fears.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 10:41:33 GMT -5
Crown Jewel will (and should) win this but I threw my vote for John Cena vs. The Undertaker. People have been calling for this match but the only interest I had in it was to see if Vince would let Cena be the one to break the Streak. Once Brock broke it I had no desire to see it, especially as Taker looked more broken down. He really should have walked away even before his "retirement" after his match with Roman. But instead we get Cena crying for months about needing to get booked at WrestleMania (as if the WWE really couldn't find a match for him) and basically calling Taker a bitch each week (and the closet we'll ever get to heel Cena) while Taker just no shows week after week. But at WrestleMania, instead of Cena fighting Strowman or Samoa Joe or any of the dozens of better options he just goofs around n the crowd until Taker finally shows up, making his emotional farewell last year completely pointless, and for what? A three minute squash in which Cena gets almost no offense. In the end both legends ended up looking like garbage. God that pissed me off. This is the true spirit of WrestleCrap in a nutshell. This is the equivalent of the Fingerpoke of Doom. (Edit: HELL, EQUIVALENT OF THE GOOKER ITSELF!) Call him out for weeks, get people on the fence to order the Network to hope it becomes a thing. (He's working this way too long for it to NOT lead to SOMETHING.) Here's John dicking around in the crowd. Here's John calling him out again. Here's John and Taker, holy crap were gonna see this! Here's John getting his ass kicked in 3 minutes. Well...THAT happened!
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 6, 2019 11:19:01 GMT -5
I think it's more the fact that Wrestlemania has sucked a bag of dicks for several years running. The fact that the shows were also 2,751 hours long just made them worse. Collectively one bag or remove and individual dick? It sucked each dick one at a time (hence the shows being so long), and then swallowed the entire bag to end the night.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 7, 2019 12:08:12 GMT -5
I'm firmly in the camp that likes Gookers to be classic silly stuff. Lashley's Sisters and related crap like the obstacle course was my "well this is the obvious winner" when it happened.
But man. There's just no arguing with Crown Jewel. That has my vote now.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 7, 2019 13:38:15 GMT -5
Crown Jewel will (and should) win this but I threw my vote for John Cena vs. The Undertaker. People have been calling for this match but the only interest I had in it was to see if Vince would let Cena be the one to break the Streak. Once Brock broke it I had no desire to see it, especially as Taker looked more broken down. He really should have walked away even before his "retirement" after his match with Roman. But instead we get Cena crying for months about needing to get booked at WrestleMania (as if the WWE really couldn't find a match for him) and basically calling Taker a bitch each week (and the closet we'll ever get to heel Cena) while Taker just no shows week after week. But at WrestleMania, instead of Cena fighting Strowman or Samoa Joe or any of the dozens of better options he just goofs around n the crowd until Taker finally shows up, making his emotional farewell last year completely pointless, and for what? A three minute squash in which Cena gets almost no offense. In the end both legends ended up looking like garbage. God that pissed me off. This is the true spirit of WrestleCrap in a nutshell. This is the equivalent of the Fingerpoke of Doom. (Edit: HELL, EQUIVALENT OF THE GOOKER ITSELF!) Call him out for weeks, get people on the fence to order the Network to hope it becomes a thing. (He's working this way too long for it to NOT lead to SOMETHING.) Here's John dicking around in the crowd. Here's John calling him out again. Here's John and Taker, holy crap were gonna see this! Here's John getting his ass kicked in 3 minutes. Well...THAT happened! Exactly. The lead-up of "John Cena has no option to get into Wrestlemania" was almost mystifyingly stupid storytelling that led into him calling out Taker over and over, and the way it worked would have been fine if it went anywhere or meant something. But it hasn't. Cena left and f***ed off to do movies and in the process of that missed Summerslam and Survivor Series because he's now so part-time that he's on that "work Mania season and nothing else" schedule at best. Taker may have done decently in the process of that squash match, but he went on to prove with the Saudi Arabia matches that he can't sustain a real match, so it's not like they can run it back at Mania this year for a real matych like some people thought they might do. People might be too quick to overlook the whole of what that situation was and how completely inane that was.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 7, 2019 14:15:23 GMT -5
But instead we get Cena crying for months about needing to get booked at WrestleMania (as if the WWE really couldn't find a match for him) and basically calling Taker a bitch each week (and the closet we'll ever get to heel Cena) while Taker just no shows week after week. I keep saying this over and over but I'll say it here again; The literal next segment after Cena's big challenge to the Undertaker was Braun Strowman going up to a cameraman and saying "I have no match for WrestleMania". Hey Braun, where the F*** were you when Cena was in the ring FOR 10 MINUTES OPEN CHALLENGING ANYONE FOR A MATCH AT WRESTLEMANIA?!
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 7, 2019 14:40:46 GMT -5
Is TNA so meh nowadays not even running over a child gets a mention ? Impact did have Sami Callihan vs Eddie Edwards feud, which should have been a nomination. It started with Eddie getting hit in the face with a REAL baseball bat in a spot that should never have been greenlit, had the "face" in the feud threaten to drive over a thousand miles to put two women in hospital, and had Eddie telling his wife and Impact management that he was going to straight up murder Sami Callihan.
Without question, that feud should have been nominated for a gooker. It's prime LOLTNA, it's a waste of Edwards (a dude that is great at technical wrestling, but wasn't trained in the selling part) and when they put Edwards in the main event, the rating for Impact tanked.
holy shit, 2018 was such a long year for stupid wrestling that I forgot THAT happened. What does that tell you?
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Post by Krazee on Jan 7, 2019 16:01:53 GMT -5
Nicholas was awesome, I will die on this hill. i hated it it at first but when i found out it was the refs son, i loved it lol
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 7, 2019 16:20:29 GMT -5
The Saudi regime should tell WWE that they want to see the Gooker at the next event they host.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 7, 2019 16:43:52 GMT -5
The Saudi regime should tell WWE that they want to see the Gooker at the next event they host. VINCE: PAUL, THE WAREHOUSE JUST TOLD ME THEY LOST THE GOOKER COSTUME! WHAT DO WE DO? WE CAN'T PISS OFF THE GODDAMN SAUDIS! HHH: Just send out the Swagger Soaring Eagle. It worked for Hiroki Sumi.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 7, 2019 20:03:56 GMT -5
The Saudi regime should tell WWE that they want to see the Gooker at the next event they host. VINCE: PAUL, THE WAREHOUSE JUST TOLD ME THEY LOST THE GOOKER COSTUME! WHAT DO WE DO? WE CAN'T PISS OFF THE GODDAMN SAUDIS! HHH: Just send out the Swagger Soaring Eagle. It worked for Hiroki Sumi. I don't think the Eagle costume would fit Sumi.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Jan 7, 2019 21:38:53 GMT -5
Things like Crown Jewel and Eddiesploitation should never be on this list. I read Wrestlecrap to escape the real world. Crown Jewel was a real world controversy. I don't want this. I watch wrestling for escapism too. Wrestlecrap is supposed to be FUN. Shit like this is why I barely read the site any more. Agreed 100%. You put that on and everyone's going to vote for it. Where I feel like Lashley's Sisters is much more in keeping with the spirit of wrestlecrap
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Jan 7, 2019 21:43:15 GMT -5
Things like Crown Jewel and Eddiesploitation should never be on this list. I read Wrestlecrap to escape the real world. Crown Jewel was a real world controversy. I don't want this. I watch wrestling for escapism too. Wrestlecrap is supposed to be FUN. Shit like this is why I barely read the site any more. If you ignore the political backstory of Crown Jewel, You still have the single worst tag team match to ever take place in WWE. Yes, I say that with no hyperbole. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K9gIOP3H_Q
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 7, 2019 21:57:22 GMT -5
If you ignore the political backstory of Crown Jewel, You still have the single worst tag team match to ever take place in WWE. Yes, I say that with no hyperbole. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K9gIOP3H_QStill worse, Even more so because these are all veterans and know better.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 8, 2019 3:43:56 GMT -5
For the classical fun Wrestlecrap choice, I'd definitely go with Bobby Lashley's sisters.
For the depressing most disheartening choice, it's WWE Crown Jewel.
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Post by H-Virus on Feb 8, 2019 13:05:17 GMT -5
They posted the induction last week, somehow didn’t notice until just now. Did a huge surge of votes manage to turn the tides of the winner? No, of course not, Crown Jewel crushed it. wrestlecrap.com/inductions/gooker-2018/
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 8, 2019 13:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 13:46:26 GMT -5
They just wanted to be sure you understood the WWE World Cup Tournament would determine the best in the world.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 8, 2019 13:48:02 GMT -5
They just wanted to be sure you understood the WWE World Cup Tournament would determine the best in the world. I've determined that Lizuka is the Best Smart Ass in the World.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Feb 8, 2019 14:20:42 GMT -5
They just wanted to be sure you understood the WWE World Cup Tournament would determine the best in the world. You’re right. The WWE World Cup Tournament was used to determine the best in the world.
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