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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jan 6, 2019 4:04:09 GMT -5
Three thoughts I had...
1. When I opened this thread I was thinking, "It's not what I think it's going to be. Damn, it is."
2. "Well it is probably more sanitary than the money used in the Million Dollar Man matches."
3. Reading the comparisons to Mr. Socko, I can't help to think about a line from the 80s movie Colors.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 4:27:25 GMT -5
I went to an indie show today where a guy stuck his fingers in his ass and stuck them in his his opponents' mouths. This is grosser than that but it's in the same neighborhood. If it worked in the room it was performed for then what's there to say really? I was ready to hate this particular video but it had a certain B movie charm.
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Post by héad.casé on Jan 6, 2019 5:19:07 GMT -5
Personally, wasn’t a fan of the spot, but I don’t like the Joey Ryan dick spots either. But if it gets over, it gets over. I’m not to judge. Art is subjective. I’m all for creativity, thinking outside the box - I was in the ring for 7 years, it’s hard to be creative when you feel like everyone has seen everything before.
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Post by Display Name on Jan 6, 2019 5:25:39 GMT -5
Honestly not understanding all the hate this is getting. Wrestling isn’t real and neither was that tampon.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 6, 2019 5:31:58 GMT -5
Honestly not understanding all the hate this is getting. Wrestling isn’t real and neither was that tampon. Yeah, that's about where I am at here. I certainly felt repulsed by the concenpt of the "weapon" watching it for the firs time, but as long as she's not using actual bloody tampons, it's no worse than the Stinkface, really.
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Post by LexExpress on Jan 6, 2019 5:39:52 GMT -5
I mean call me old fashioned here, but I just don't want any bodily fluids in my wrestling. That goes both for this lady's tampon (fake or not) and Spud having a wee (although at least that wasn't on a person...).
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Post by Error on Jan 6, 2019 6:23:53 GMT -5
Not a spot I find appealing but that's just me. This is like deathmatch stuff, you need the right audience for it and I think a 21+ bar fight show is the right audience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 6:41:54 GMT -5
Whatever was the intent it is picking up the preverbial steam Road Dogg is preaching all over twitter Tommy Dreamer gets it and is positive towards her Dreamer just wants to use this spot to bring back his “I’ll eat anything” character from 2002.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Jan 6, 2019 8:16:26 GMT -5
I'm sure it was a workin' tampon, you'd have to be crazy to take that spot if it was shoot tampon. It doesn't bother me, I lump it in with all the other silly shit I've seen in wrestling in my life.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jan 6, 2019 8:39:55 GMT -5
Gross. Of course it's fake, still gross. And her thing about 'penises are ok but vaginas aren't?' Nah, it's the whole blood thing that's nasty. Pretty sure it's not the blood. If the "weapon" was a towel with fake blood on it that was implied to have been used to stop a head wound, doubt this would even be a story.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 6, 2019 8:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 9:17:06 GMT -5
I'm more offended by the move that broke Marko Stunt's leg than this
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 6, 2019 9:19:10 GMT -5
This reminds me, I am kind of surprised that a tampon, pad, or some other object has never been used or implied in order to end a First Blood match between two women. It just seems like the kind of trashy gag Russo would use, but I also wonder if he just never thought of it. If Russo thought of it, it would have been David Flair's tampon for some reason. That's not a friendly image. I'm in two minds about the tampon spot. It clearly was a gimmicked teabag, there were no kids there, not too bad. On the other hand, it's still absolutely gross.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 6, 2019 9:43:01 GMT -5
I think Paige needs to have a talk with her little sister. Also, based on Priscilla's inspiration for that spot, I predict this is going to be her new theme:
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 6, 2019 9:52:55 GMT -5
This reminds me, I am kind of surprised that a tampon, pad, or some other object has never been used or implied in order to end a First Blood match between two women. It just seems like the kind of trashy gag Russo would use, but I also wonder if he just never thought of it. If Russo thought of it, it would have been David Flair's tampon for some reason. Russo then would have put the tampon on a poll and then made it the US Chanp which it could only defend once a month.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 6, 2019 9:54:10 GMT -5
Yeah... no. This is the kind of shit idve thought was wild and funny when I was 14 and flaming tables were still cool. Its not even the gross factor that bothers me. It's just a really lame spot. I'm very defensive over comedy wrestling because it does have it's place in wrestling but this really does not. Who says this has no place in wrestling? It got a favorable reaction from the audience and nobody got hurt. And there's the crux of the "issue" - who gets to say what has a place in wrestling? Let's look at some of the stuff that's had a place in wrestling, and let's stick to WWE here: - A former top name, now deceased, who spent his entire career legit blowing his snot on his opponents and was so well-loved by the wrestling community, the two biggest companies in the world made him world champ - Tommy Dreamer, who ate vomit and other vile things on TV - Faces being forced into Rikishi's ass crevice - Warrior puking everywhere after being cursed by Shango - Arn Anderson being pissed on on-screen - Every "shit" angle they've done, from Rock/Bulldog, Eddie/Big Show and on. - Patterson/Brisco and skidmark underwear - Rockstar Spud being the latest of many WWE wrestlers to urinate himself on screen - Natty's farting gimmick - Bastion Booger in general - Pitt City So yeah, I'm sorry but as ick as the spot was, it absolutely has a place in wrestling based on around 30 years of the biggest show in town doing the same type of thing. As disgusting as they are, spots and gimmicks based on bodily functions, liquids and wastes has had a place in wrestling for decades. Will this particular one ever go mainstream? Nah. But to go high and mighty after everything we've gone through with the business in the last half-century, to say "this doesn't have any place in wrestling" when attempted murder, kidnapping, mutilation, rape, stalking, and even drink-tampering have been used more than once just in the WWE alone.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 6, 2019 9:57:04 GMT -5
What happened, I don’t want to watch it. Did she use a tampon to gross out an opponent, or did the tampon hurt someone. It it hurt someone, that is stupid and has no place in wrestling. If she used it as a gross out tactic, I mean ew, but ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 10:00:20 GMT -5
This is awesome and I love how this is grossing dudes out. I mean, it's gross, but we've seen so much blood between the ropes over the years - I love how many people this is taking out of their comfort zone. Like, is this *that* different from Mr. Socko? It's a good thing for the world and I'm glad it exists. Yeah, it's supposed to be a "What the f***?!" Spot. Like, it's a work. I've seen deathmatches, I've seen guys bleeding buckets, dudes eating worms, dick flips, stinkfaces, and so on. If you don't like it, fine, but to act like THIS spot crosses the line, is a bit weird given how strange pro wrestling has always been.
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Post by KobashiChop on Jan 6, 2019 10:12:46 GMT -5
Who says this has no place in wrestling? It got a favorable reaction from the audience and nobody got hurt. And there's the crux of the "issue" - who gets to say what has a place in wrestling? Let's look at some of the stuff that's had a place in wrestling, and let's stick to WWE here: - A former top name, now deceased, who spent his entire career legit blowing his snot on his opponents and was so well-loved by the wrestling community, the two biggest companies in the world made him world champ - Tommy Dreamer, who ate vomit and other vile things on TV - Faces being forced into Rikishi's ass crevice - Warrior puking everywhere after being cursed by Shango - Arn Anderson being pissed on on-screen - Every "shit" angle they've done, from Rock/Bulldog, Eddie/Big Show and on. - Patterson/Brisco and skidmark underwear - Rockstar Spud being the latest of many WWE wrestlers to urinate himself on screen - Natty's farting gimmick - Bastion Booger in general - Pitt City So yeah, I'm sorry but as ick as the spot was, it absolutely has a place in wrestling based on around 30 years of the biggest show in town doing the same type of thing. As disgusting as they are, spots and gimmicks based on bodily functions, liquids and wastes has had a place in wrestling for decades. Will this particular one ever go mainstream? Nah. But to go high and mighty after everything we've gone through with the business in the last half-century, to say "this doesn't have any place in wrestling" when attempted murder, kidnapping, mutilation, rape, stalking, and even drink-tampering have been used more than once just in the WWE alone. FWIW I don't look back on any of that fondly. Especially the dangerously concentrated piss that Arn had dropped on him. I find it all insanely lowbrow and embarrassing whenever I get into a conversation about wrestling with a non fan. I don't need wrestling to be 100% Okada vs Omega levels of serious. But bodily fluid related humour hasn't worked for me in a long time. You're way off if you think I'm in favour of any of the stuff you referenced. Think of the best angles you've ever seen on WWE TV. How many of them involve semen, piss, shit or menstrual blood as a focal point? There's a reason the best TV shows written don't involve this stuff. Just because it exists doesn't mean I enjoy it on WWE or any wrestling show.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 6, 2019 10:18:05 GMT -5
And there's the crux of the "issue" - who gets to say what has a place in wrestling? Let's look at some of the stuff that's had a place in wrestling, and let's stick to WWE here: - A former top name, now deceased, who spent his entire career legit blowing his snot on his opponents and was so well-loved by the wrestling community, the two biggest companies in the world made him world champ - Tommy Dreamer, who ate vomit and other vile things on TV - Faces being forced into Rikishi's ass crevice - Warrior puking everywhere after being cursed by Shango - Arn Anderson being pissed on on-screen - Every "shit" angle they've done, from Rock/Bulldog, Eddie/Big Show and on. - Patterson/Brisco and skidmark underwear - Rockstar Spud being the latest of many WWE wrestlers to urinate himself on screen - Natty's farting gimmick - Bastion Booger in general - Pitt City So yeah, I'm sorry but as ick as the spot was, it absolutely has a place in wrestling based on around 30 years of the biggest show in town doing the same type of thing. As disgusting as they are, spots and gimmicks based on bodily functions, liquids and wastes has had a place in wrestling for decades. Will this particular one ever go mainstream? Nah. But to go high and mighty after everything we've gone through with the business in the last half-century, to say "this doesn't have any place in wrestling" when attempted murder, kidnapping, mutilation, rape, stalking, and even drink-tampering have been used more than once just in the WWE alone. FWIW I don't look back on any of that fondly. Especially the dangerously concentrated piss that Arn had dropped on him. I find it all insanely lowbrow and embarrassing whenever I get into a conversation about wrestling with a non fan. I don't need wrestling to be 100% Okada vs Omega levels of serious. But bodily fluid related humour hasn't worked for me in a long time. You're way off if you think I'm in favour of any of the stuff you referenced. Think of the best angles you've ever seen on WWE TV. How many of them involve semen, piss, shit or menstrual blood as a focal point? There's a reason the best TV shows written don't involve this stuff. Just because it exists doesn't mean I enjoy it on WWE or any wrestling show. Who said YOU had to be in favor of it for it to be okay to be a thing? If that's what you got out of my post, you completely misread it. At no point did I say that. What I said was it existed. It happened. It has happened off and on for decades. Whether I like it or not, whether or not you are in favor of it, that's not relevant to the point. It exists. It has existed. It is part of the business. Whether you or I approve, it has become part of the business for decades. To do the "Not in MY wrestling" thing is incredibly near-sighted given the scope of the business' history.
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