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Post by héad.casé on Jan 6, 2019 14:24:41 GMT -5
Saw that the Ed Norton Hulk movie was on TV this afternoon, and it's always been an interesting "What if" scenario to me - I mean, does the MCU stay the same with him as Banner? How does his version of Banner interact with the other Avengers? Would there still be that forced romance with Romanov? Would we still see Gladiator Hulk on Sakaar?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 6, 2019 14:29:02 GMT -5
I dunno if Norton's version would or even could be as charming as Ruffalo's.
The forced Widow relationship would still happen, because it's obvious Whedon was going to do that anyway, he was clearly projecting himself onto Banner to imagine himself "getting ScarJo". He's a Bruce Timm level creep on that front.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 6, 2019 14:49:48 GMT -5
Feel like he would have been kicked to the curb prior to the Avengers anyways. While Incredible Hulk was good dude had made it very clear he hated the franchise, the role, and any attempt to continue grinding that out was a waste. Ruffalo made the role his own and did a hell of a job. The prestige of an Edward Norton being in the credits would have been literally the only gain.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 6, 2019 14:50:24 GMT -5
Rest of the cast would have hated him.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 6, 2019 15:01:40 GMT -5
Norton might be a slightly better actor than Ruffalo, but he's not nearly as engaging. While his Bruce looks and actually acts more like the comics version, it's hard to see him fitting in what the MCU has become as well as Ruffalo has.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 6, 2019 17:09:25 GMT -5
On a lesser scale what about Terrence Howard compared to Cheadle
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 6, 2019 17:20:49 GMT -5
He would've retained a tragic and kinda manic energy that Ruffalo just doesn't have.
Norton's performance as Banner, I can sense that the dude is messed up in the head. He's a good guy and trying to do the right thing but he's strung out and desperate. It was absolutely perfect. The dynamic with the rest of the Avengers would have been really interesting to watch. I like Hulk as a threat. Not just to the villains but to the heroes as well. He's a monster at the end of the day.
Ruffalo 85% of the time just comes off like Barney Rubble.
I also think Terrance Howard would've been a way better War Machine. His chemistry with RDJ was one of the best parts of the first Iron Man and it would've been fun to see Howard develop through the movies. But the dude stood his ground on getting equal pay and I respect that.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 6, 2019 18:32:11 GMT -5
if Howard didn't quit because of the money It likely would have been a matter of time that he would get dropped due to the domestic abuse allegations
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 6, 2019 19:57:06 GMT -5
Norton's performance as Banner, I can sense that the dude is messed up in the head. He's a good guy and trying to do the right thing but he's strung out and desperate. Have to agree to a degree. Had Norton somehow remained on, I see his more neurotic version of Banner interfering with the Stark bromance, with it being more of a silent competition between them instead. Very likely would have written him away from ever feeling comfortable as Banner around the others. |
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Post by Clint Bobski on Jan 6, 2019 19:58:43 GMT -5
Feel like he would have been kicked to the curb prior to the Avengers anyways. While Incredible Hulk was good dude had made it very clear he hated the franchise, the role, and any attempt to continue grinding that out was a waste. Ruffalo made the role his own and did a hell of a job. The prestige of an Edward Norton being in the credits would have been literally the only gain. I thought Norton was actually really invested in the character? I read he loved The Hulk and one of the reasons they ditched him was because of the level of creative control he wanted over it? |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 6, 2019 20:01:55 GMT -5
Norton's performance as Banner, I can sense that the dude is messed up in the head. He's a good guy and trying to do the right thing but he's strung out and desperate. Have to agree to a degree. Had Norton somehow remained on, I see his more neurotic version of Banner interfering with the Stark bromance, with it being more of a silent competition between them instead. Very likely would have written him away from ever feeling comfortable as Banner around the others. See thats more interesting to me than Banner being another gag character. The Hulk is such a rich emotional and tragic story. Sure you lose the science bros memes but you get a much more complex character in the roster. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 6, 2019 23:29:00 GMT -5
Feel like he would have been kicked to the curb prior to the Avengers anyways. While Incredible Hulk was good dude had made it very clear he hated the franchise, the role, and any attempt to continue grinding that out was a waste. Ruffalo made the role his own and did a hell of a job. The prestige of an Edward Norton being in the credits would have been literally the only gain. He didn't hate the role. Edward Norton was actually a fan of the comics. He just wanted a bigger role in the creative process when it came to the film. My opinion? He looked exactly how I always envisioned Banner and it would've been cool to see that continuity established. Don't get me wrong I love Ruffalo but he just doesn't scream Banner to me the way Norton did. Norton had the perfect look with the glasses and lab coat, right amount of dry humor, and it would've been nice if both sides worked things out where we would've seen him interact with Downey, Hemsworth, Cumberbatch, Evans, and Scar Jo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 0:52:38 GMT -5
I feel The Incredible Hulk is one of the best MCU films and I’ve never understood the hate it gets. Though now that the MCU has its formula down it sticks out like a sore thumb. I think Norton is was a perfect Banner, and even the Hulk was a better design (Ruffalo’s Hulk looks like a creepy man baby, though it has been looking slightly better each movie) Though I don’t know how either would fit in the MCU of today.
Every weird change Ruffalo made or odd plot element. I just blame on Banner being angry all the time or him and Hulk minds overlapping a little bit.
It’s also my main defense for the Widow romance.
Banner loves Betty. Hulk loves Widow.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2019 2:17:12 GMT -5
Feel like he would have been kicked to the curb prior to the Avengers anyways. While Incredible Hulk was good dude had made it very clear he hated the franchise, the role, and any attempt to continue grinding that out was a waste. Ruffalo made the role his own and did a hell of a job. The prestige of an Edward Norton being in the credits would have been literally the only gain. I thought Norton was actually really invested in the character? I read he loved The Hulk and one of the reasons they ditched him was because of the level of creative control he wanted over it? Yup. Norton rewrote swathes of the Incredible Hulk script, and reportedly wanted full creative control over use of Hulk going forward. That's not how Marvel work, so he was replaced. With that in mind, it will be interesting if they allow Ryan Reynolds the same level of control over Deadpool that he currently has. |
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 7, 2019 2:45:30 GMT -5
One thing I like about Ruffalo over Norton is that Mark has this aura of "I'm just gonna let shit roll off my chest cuz it ain't worth it"
Norton definitely played the tension up, but Ruffalo plays it like "any minute now." Which is how I know a lot of people with depression and rage issues actually are.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2019 6:52:06 GMT -5
One thing I like about Ruffalo over Norton is that Mark has this aura of "I'm just gonna let shit roll off my chest cuz it ain't worth it" Norton definitely played the tension up, but Ruffalo plays it like "any minute now." Which is how I know a lot of people with depression and rage issues actually are. Ruffalo has suffered from depression and anxiety since childhood, so it would make sense he would put a lot of that experience into his portrayal of Banner. |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 7, 2019 8:28:06 GMT -5
I thought Norton was actually really invested in the character? I read he loved The Hulk and one of the reasons they ditched him was because of the level of creative control he wanted over it? Yup. Norton rewrote swathes of the Incredible Hulk script, and reportedly wanted full creative control over use of Hulk going forward. That's not how Marvel work, so he was replaced. With that in mind, it will be interesting if they allow Ryan Reynolds the same level of control over Deadpool that he currently has. The difference is how much business Deadpool does, I think. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2019 8:34:08 GMT -5
Yup. Norton rewrote swathes of the Incredible Hulk script, and reportedly wanted full creative control over use of Hulk going forward. That's not how Marvel work, so he was replaced. With that in mind, it will be interesting if they allow Ryan Reynolds the same level of control over Deadpool that he currently has. The difference is how much business Deadpool does, I think. And if Deadpool is integrated into the MCU proper or not. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 7, 2019 9:53:21 GMT -5
If they had decided to have Hank Pym be a contemporary to Tony Stark, Ed Norton would have been perfect.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 7, 2019 11:30:44 GMT -5
He would have walked off set on Joss Whedon. I can't see him putting up with that guy at all.
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