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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 8, 2019 18:44:49 GMT -5
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 8, 2019 18:46:47 GMT -5
We have a family video in town that does well. I buy a ton of their movies, cause they are cheap, never rented from them though.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 8, 2019 19:01:44 GMT -5
We have a family video in town that does well. I buy a ton of their movies, cause they are cheap, never rented from them though. What’s your town like? The article mentions Family Video being in a lot of small towns, but I could see them succeeding elsewhere. I lived in Manhattan in 2010/2011 and they had a Blockbuster that looked like it was thriving. They always had customers and looked busy. I think if the parent company didn’t go belly up that location would still be in business. I live in the Greater Boston area and I tried looking for video stores before. Apparently they have one In Jamaica Plain, which is kind of the hipster section of Boston. I could see one working in Allston or Brighton near where I live as there are a lot of students/hipsters around. There are also some ethnic convenient stores (if I was still going in NYC they’d call them bodegas) that have signs saying thy rent and/or sell videos, but I never bothered checking it out.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 8, 2019 19:09:32 GMT -5
I could see them being huge in areas that don't have great streaming bandwith
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Post by Paul on Jan 8, 2019 19:11:58 GMT -5
We have a Family Video near us too that seems to be doing really well. It's still a good option for some people.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 8, 2019 19:21:04 GMT -5
In my travels I've noticed how primitive some areas are to others. Pretty sure those same places have video stores.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 19:25:14 GMT -5
Around here Family Video is about the only way the poorer people (which is like, over half of the f***ing city) can afford to see movies regularly or play new games. People don't make enough to afford things like Netflix or decent internet in general.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 8, 2019 19:46:49 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target?
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Post by Paul on Jan 8, 2019 20:25:26 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? Sure. A lot of people don't like streaming, or don't have access to streaming services or broadband, or don't want to pay for a streaming service. The advantage of buying a DVD or Blu-Ray is that you own it and it can't be "taken away" like a movie can on a streaming service.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 8, 2019 20:36:04 GMT -5
Smaller regional towns really
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 8, 2019 21:10:30 GMT -5
We have a family video in town that does well. I buy a ton of their movies, cause they are cheap, never rented from them though. What’s your town like? The article mentions Family Video being in a lot of small towns, but I could see them succeeding elsewhere. I lived in Manhattan in 2010/2011 and they had a Blockbuster that looked like it was thriving. They always had customers and looked busy. I think if the parent company didn’t go belly up that location would still be in business. I live in the Greater Boston area and I tried looking for video stores before. Apparently they have one In Jamaica Plain, which is kind of the hipster section of Boston. I could see one working in Allston or Brighton near where I live as there are a lot of students/hipsters around. There are also some ethnic convenient stores (if I was still going in NYC they’d call them bodegas) that have signs saying thy rent and/or sell videos, but I never bothered checking it out. Few hundred thousand with a bunch of colleges. We actually had a multistory one on campus for a while that was awesome but they sold the building to someone else.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 8, 2019 21:14:47 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? Definitely. Maybe not like they used to, but anything superhero or Disney sells real well. Horror movies, value bins, holiday films. I probably sold like 75-100 copies of Hocus Pocus this October. With a capes release of some sort or another I usually get a hundred or so blurays, and tend to sell out within the first week. 4K isn't really catching on, but it moves way better than 3D movies did.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 8, 2019 21:29:16 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? It’s still a $4+ billion industry and the fairly recent advant of 4K should help a bit. It is shrinking rapidly though. I read a similar article a while back that mentioned it shrank by 14 percent between 2016-2017 IIRC.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 8, 2019 21:29:20 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? Sure. A lot of people don't like streaming, or don't have access to streaming services or broadband, or don't want to pay for a streaming service. The advantage of buying a DVD or Blu-Ray is that you own it and it can't be "taken away" like a movie can on a streaming service. Actually, DVD/BluRay is cratering hard as an industry now. Two years ago, we were taking in about 100 used DVDs a week at my store, now we're taking in anywhere between 500-1000 a week, from people dumping their physical libraries and going streaming-only. Sales are drying up, in used and new DVDs, and it's going down faster and faster with every month. Blu-Ray's been in the toilet for over a year now. Unless it's a Marvel or major Disney movie, we can't get more than $5 for most now, whereas just that same two years ago, they were flying off the shelves at $10 for anything BR. Wal-Mart and Target have both started condensing their DVD sections greatly, to the point that in some, there's only two or so kiosks for new/hot stuff and a dump bin for the bargain titles. Even then, whereas just a few years ago, those dump bins were full of old public domain crap, they're now full of movies that were just in theaters last year. Family Video doesn't really make money on their video stores. They never have. They support themselves through owning the shopping centers they're in, thus they don't pay rent and can stay around long as they want, even if they don't make $100 in a week.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 8, 2019 21:30:18 GMT -5
My town has one-with the two closest towns combined, we have about 8,000 and many are out in the sticks as they say. I don't go myself so I don't know if they really have poor internet, or it's just something they do-I'd be willing to bet it's a mix of both. However, in it's heyday we had two major places and a couple dozen stores that rented them out-all local-no chains
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 8, 2019 21:35:35 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? Sure. A lot of people don't like streaming, or don't have access to streaming services or broadband, or don't want to pay for a streaming service. The advantage of buying a DVD or Blu-Ray is that you own it and it can't be "taken away" like a movie can on a streaming service. Great points! I like to lionize it as buying DVDs is like contributing to the war effort with our corporate overlords even if that is a bit ridiculous. After all they make money either way. Still, no less of an authority than Joe Neglia pointed out a while ago that studios have consumers exactly where they want them. If nothing comes after streaming then those services have complete control over whatever we watch and when we can watch it. Sure we might be able to find crappy temporary versions on Yotube or elsewhere if you look real hard but fewer and fewer people are going to put in effort finding obscure gems from decades ago when you can watch the Avengers in high def right now.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 8, 2019 22:34:56 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? It’s still a $4+ billion industry and the fairly recent advant of 4K should help a bit. It is shrinking rapidly though. I read a similar article a while back that mentioned it shrank by 14 percent between 2016-2017 IIRC. Are you using this Variety article for that $4+ billion dollars? Because that was from January a full year ago. Sales dropped another 33% in 2018, at least in the UK (and generally, that usually equates to the same in the U.S. within 5% of either side. 4K actually saw growth this year, but it's so niche that 70% growth isn't going to be a game-changer. It needed to be at least in the 300-400% growth to mean anything. I'm not trying to be a doom-and-gloomer here - I have a DVD collection of over 5,000 movies myself and I don't do streaming - but I've been working inside the video business literally since the year DVD started in '97. DVD and Blu-Ray are going the way of the dinosaur a lot sooner than a lot of people are expecting.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 8, 2019 22:48:18 GMT -5
It’s still a $4+ billion industry and the fairly recent advant of 4K should help a bit. It is shrinking rapidly though. I read a similar article a while back that mentioned it shrank by 14 percent between 2016-2017 IIRC. Are you using this Variety article for that $4+ billion dollars? Because that was from January a full year ago. Sales dropped another 33% in 2018, at least in the UK (and generally, that usually equates to the same in the U.S. within 5% of either side. 4K actually saw growth this year, but it's so niche that 70% growth isn't going to be a game-changer. It needed to be at least in the 300-400% growth to mean anything. I'm not trying to be a doom-and-gloomer here - I have a DVD collection of over 5,000 movies myself and I don't do streaming - but I've been working inside the video business literally since the year DVD started in '97. DVD and Blu-Ray are going the way of the dinosaur a lot sooner than a lot of people are expecting. This is kinda good for me, because I'm trying to build up a decent dvd/blu ray collection. I've gotten some pretty rare out of print stuff for a fraction of the price.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 8, 2019 22:56:31 GMT -5
Honestly now that Filmstruck has been shot down hard copies of films is the best way to see most classic/ classic foreign films. I mean Netflix et al is gonna get more viewers with the next Birdbox than they are by streaming Ingmar Bergman films.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 9, 2019 0:46:34 GMT -5
do dvd's/blu rays even sell that well anywhere these days? Even in places like Wal-Mart or Target? It’s still a $4+ billion industry and the fairly recent advant of 4K should help a bit. It is shrinking rapidly though. I read a similar article a while back that mentioned it shrank by 14 percent between 2016-2017 IIRC. I would imagine that is gonna drop fast and bigly when Disney and Marvel start their respective streaming services.
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