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Post by Dub H on Jan 9, 2019 11:18:31 GMT -5
I don’t want Charlotte anywhere near Becky and Ronda to be honest. And I say this as a fan of hers. I think Charlotte is probably the best women’s wrestler on the roster but the hype was always about Becky and Ronda. Nobody wants Charlotte in there. As somebody said in the thread: The triple threat might be a fantastic match.It is still not what we want. We dont want Charlotte to keep being there when she has no business.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:18:40 GMT -5
They are probably gonna do the Luger and Bret spot...both tumble outside at the "sametime" of which they will no doubt f*** up.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 9, 2019 11:22:05 GMT -5
But in fairness to Charlotte, the woman pulls out the big guns in a big match scenario, I think she was the best of the 3 in the TLC match. So why not add her? As long as Becky gets the win thats the main thing, thats what the people want.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:23:17 GMT -5
They are probably gonna do the Luger and Bret spot...both tumble outside at the "sametime" of which they will no doubt f*** up. Remember that battle royal on SD a couple years ago where AJ clearly hit the floor before Harper, but it was treated like they both did at the same time?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:29:18 GMT -5
They are probably gonna do the Luger and Bret spot...both tumble outside at the "sametime" of which they will no doubt f*** up. Remember that battle royal on SD a couple years ago where AJ clearly hit the floor before Harper, but it was treated like they both did at the same time? And Royal Rumble 2000 where The Rock clearly touched the ground first ...and they even showed the angle proving it lol. But f*** it MCMAHONS IN EVERY CORNER GO!
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 9, 2019 11:38:11 GMT -5
Speaking of which is The Rock still the official winner of that 2000 Rumble or is it Big Show? I thought it was to be determined at No Way Out, which was a match Show won. The problem with doing this as a 3 way is that it makes it seem like just another match. We have seen Becky/Charlotte in some combo several times now, add in Asuka or Carmella. Rousey is just another variant on that match. It isn't anything special. If they do a 3 way it feels honestly like a way for Rousey to drop the title without actually putting anyone else over.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 9, 2019 11:59:10 GMT -5
I don’t want Charlotte anywhere near Becky and Ronda to be honest. And I say this as a fan of hers. I think Charlotte is probably the best women’s wrestler on the roster but the hype was always about Becky and Ronda. Nobody wants Charlotte in there. As somebody said in the thread: The triple threat might be a fantastic match.It is still not what we want. We dont want Charlotte to keep being there when she has no business.
She's been integral to the storyline though. Ronda interfered to screw over both of them at TLC, after each had separately assaulted her, and which left both women wanting revenge against Ronda. Becky's social media continues to attach both Ronda and Charlotte. Even this week's Raw had Ronda mocking both of them to prop up Sasha. Leaving Charlotte out hurts both the narrative (because then the Survivor Series match/beatdown doesn't get proper closure--and if they had a separate match to try and resolve that before Mania, it'd be incredibly predictable) and the match.
As for what happens, my guess is its a triple-threat, Charlotte gets in first by winning the Rumble, fans are predictably outraged (WWE are aware of these dynamics--look at how they manipulated fans at the last two men's Rumbles by having Roman second-last, and used Nikki Bella in a similar way in the women's) and they use it to fuel interest in Becky's quest to get into the match, and most likely win.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 9, 2019 12:02:01 GMT -5
Speaking of which is The Rock still the official winner of that 2000 Rumble or is it Big Show? I thought it was to be determined at No Way Out, which was a match Show won. The problem with doing this as a 3 way is that it makes it seem like just another match. We have seen Becky/Charlotte in some combo several times now, add in Asuka or Carmella. Rousey is just another variant on that match. It isn't anything special. If they do a 3 way it feels honestly like a way for Rousey to drop the title without actually putting anyone else over. I agree with that, but it seems like the scenario they have accidentally booked themselves into. Which is why I guess they shouldnt have done the Asuka and Carmella matches. Should have done Becky vs Asuka at TLC with Charlotte costing her the title, then do the Bret/Luger finish with Charlotte/Becky at the Rumble to set up the Triple Threat.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 9, 2019 13:00:11 GMT -5
It's just not right that Charlotte gets slotted into everything. Every important moment. Every first, every "historic" thing. A triple threat doesn't have the iconic look or feel that a one on one title match at WrestleMania does. Charlotte's presence overshadows the better story of Becky vs Ronda. The only path to fix this is Becky loses to Asuka and wins the Rumble, finishes her business with Charlotte at whichever pre-Mania PPV and then moves on to the natural conclusion to storyline telling Becky's rise. WWE needs to stop with their absolute refusal to let anyone shine unless they pick them. They're the personification of this:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 13:51:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m not letting past burns affect my mindset on this one, it’s clearly a triple threat.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Charlotte has pulled out some classics, is just as over as Ronda and Becky, and has been integrated into the storyline since Survivor Series. This is clearly leading into a very kickass triple threat between three atheletes that have shown that they can pull of classics.
I get not wanting Charlotte in things, but her style arguably adds to it and it’s sort of poetic that Becky/Charlotte, once close friends turned bitter enemies close out Wrestlemania with one common threat in Ronda Rousey and her top prize on the line. Tell me the crowd wouldn’t go insane with a staredown between the two mid match. It makes sense to me IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 13:53:08 GMT -5
I figure the Asuka match ends inconclusively. Why not just have Carmella get that shot so Asuka can finally get that win back? The frustrating thing to me is that after talking about no more automatic rematches the Rumble card is basically a bunch of rematches, or the weeks leading up to it have been rematches. I guess Becky and Styles didn't get auto rematches but instead won token #1 contender matches, but it's still the same stuff. Same deal with Rollins/Ambrose. The difference is that the superstars are now earning their rematches while also elevating new talent and making the title seem like a big deal that most want to kill their bodies over it just to get a chance. Makes sense.
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 9, 2019 14:21:52 GMT -5
- Becky loses at Rumble - Women's Rumble Winner, challenges Asuka - Becky wins Women's Elimination Chamber for Raw title shot. Wait, how is a Smackdown competitor in Raw's Chamber? A combination of Ronda asking for a chance to shut up Becky's gloating and because the McMahons are giving the fans what they want now. - Becky vs. Ronda at WrestleMania
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Post by feartear on Jan 9, 2019 14:24:25 GMT -5
-Becky loses clean to Asuka -Carmella enters at number 30 and gets massive boos because she's not Becky -Charlotte wins the rumble to massive boos -Becky invades the ring with fifty random fans wearing her shirt -At Wrestlemania it's Becky vs Stephanie McMahon, the winner will be added to Ronda vs Charlotte {Spoiler}
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 14:26:48 GMT -5
-Becky loses clean to Asuka -Carmella enters at number 30 and gets massive boos because she's not Becky -Charlotte wins the rumble to massive boos -Becky invades the ring with fifty random fans wearing her shirt -At Wrestlemania it's Becky vs Stephanie McMahon, the winner will be added to Ronda vs Charlotte {Spoiler}{Spoiler} To be honest, I do think we're going to get Becky vs. Stephanie one day. Lol
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 9, 2019 14:42:45 GMT -5
Just have Charlotte interfere and cost Becky the title at Rumble while Charlotte wins the Rumble. Becky demands a match with Charlotte for the Mania challenge and wins. Then Charlotte can win a battle royal to face Asuka in a rematch from last year.
Just no triple threat please. I am so tired of these being used to save WWE's butt when their plans get rejected.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 9, 2019 14:46:55 GMT -5
WWE, the masters of one thing and one thing only. Leaving money on the table.
I absolutely expect this to happen now.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 9, 2019 15:17:41 GMT -5
I figure the Asuka match ends inconclusively. Why not just have Carmella get that shot so Asuka can finally get that win back? The frustrating thing to me is that after talking about no more automatic rematches the Rumble card is basically a bunch of rematches, or the weeks leading up to it have been rematches. I guess Becky and Styles didn't get auto rematches but instead won token #1 contender matches, but it's still the same stuff. Same deal with Rollins/Ambrose. the problem with that is that it would require either charlotte or becky to take a loss for Carmella to advance and wwe doesn't want either of them losing at this point so they can drag out which (or both) faces her at mania. I figure charlotte costs becky against asuka, becky comes into the rumble to get revenge on charlotte either eliminating her or they do the bret/lex finish and they end in a tie and they both pick rousey.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 15:32:47 GMT -5
I figure the Asuka match ends inconclusively. Why not just have Carmella get that shot so Asuka can finally get that win back? The frustrating thing to me is that after talking about no more automatic rematches the Rumble card is basically a bunch of rematches, or the weeks leading up to it have been rematches. I guess Becky and Styles didn't get auto rematches but instead won token #1 contender matches, but it's still the same stuff. Same deal with Rollins/Ambrose. the problem with that is that it would require either charlotte or becky to take a loss for Carmella to advance and wwe doesn't want either of them losing at this point so they can drag out which (or both) faces her at mania. I figure charlotte costs becky against asuka, becky comes into the rumble to get revenge on charlotte either eliminating her or they do the bret/lex finish and they end in a tie and they both pick rousey. That, and I don’t think they’d want a just turned babyface Carmella, someone who’s a hit with the younger demographic, back into a heel so soon.
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Post by Perd on Jan 9, 2019 15:44:30 GMT -5
If Becky isn’t winning the Rukble, and it’s at least iffy at this point, then they’re already kinda botching the story that should be being told. It Charlotte wins the Rumble, and Becky has to find her way into the match by some other means, it makes Becky look like the interloper. When, actually, the exact opposite is true.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 9, 2019 15:56:12 GMT -5
Asuka wins the match and Becky still gets in the rumble
Charlotte is getting Asuka again at Mania otherwise they would have done this match again at the Rumble
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