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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 9, 2019 15:23:59 GMT -5
The man def would be IWGP champ if he had an exclusive contract with NJPW. In a sense he's held himself back but that's the only accolade he won't have as long as he doesn't have a contract as this won't stop him from getting main events and even the outside chance of getting a main event in the Dome. I always forget that Suzuki never won the IWGP title either for almost the same reason
In a somewhat off topic, with Kenny contract coming to an end he won't really be exclusive anymore either if he goes back to NJPW and works with AEW so that may potentially hold him back as well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 16:31:33 GMT -5
Selfishly, I’d love it and I want him to sign so he can go for it and I can get my Okada-Ibushi main event.
But, it’s clearly not who he is or what he wants, so fair enough.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 9, 2019 16:36:38 GMT -5
Selfishly, I’d love it and I want him to sign so he can go for it and I can get my Okada-Ibushi main event. But, it’s clearly not who he is or what he wants, so fair enough. Yea, Ibushi is just a free spirit kind of guy as seen with him coming back and just wanting to play Tiger Mask for a while
He's comfortable which is most important and not having the IWGP title is really the only thing he won't have without a contract which in the end isn't a killer for him but as a fan it would be fun to see him as champ
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 9, 2019 17:19:06 GMT -5
Kota is so good, but yeah, his biggest obstacle to his career has always been himself. Dude could be headlining New Japan cards for years with Okada, but he'd rather shoot fireworks off a car in a random indy streetfight in London. Which I mean, fair play, he's living his best life but man the dude has an odd outlook on his own career.
And it makes me so sad that Suzuki won't get the IWGP title. He's so close to the holy trinity of GHC, AJPW Triple Crown, and IWGP. And honestly, after he ripped Tanahashi's leg out of his leg last year I was so on board with him having a brief IC reign then shocking the world and becoming champ, if anybody could be the Brock Lesnar of New Japan it's Minoru.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 9, 2019 17:33:11 GMT -5
This thread just makes me want more of Kota's Bizarre Adventure.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jan 9, 2019 17:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 9, 2019 19:23:53 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. |
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 9, 2019 19:51:38 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. Japanese Citizen A: Think about it gentleman, hoof & mouth disease, a thing of the past! Japanese Citizen B: Never mind that shit, Here Comes Suzuki!! |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 9, 2019 21:52:36 GMT -5
Kota's got everything NJPW could want in a main eventer, but Ibushi likes to dance to his own beat, and I respect that.
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Post by honsou on Jan 10, 2019 5:10:06 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. Funny story about this. When the Golden Lovers went to do the CEO show in Daytona, something happened to Ibushi's connecting flight in Atlanta and he got hopelessly lost. Michael Nakazawa (close friend of both Omega and Ibushi who worked DDT with them) had to drive a van from Daytona to Atlanta to pick him up and bring him to the venue. |
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 10, 2019 6:55:09 GMT -5
I love the fact that one of the best wrestlers in the world has every major company willing to sign him, and he's just like "Nah, I'm gonna do whatever the f*** I want. Now pass me those Roman Candles."
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2019 7:34:00 GMT -5
I love the fact that one of the best wrestlers in the world has every major company willing to sign him, and he's just like "Nah, I'm gonna do whatever the f*** I want. Now pass me those Roman Candles." Gedo: Hey, Ibushi! I know you did the WWE cruiserweight tournament but I see you're not signing with them. You know the door's always open for you in New Japan, think you'd like to come back home? We've even got a contract and big plans all set for you! Ibushi: Hmm... Gedo: ...would you rather still work freelance? I mean, that's fine, too, we're thrilled to have you around and would still take good care of you. Ibushi: HMMMMM... Gedo: ...would you rather come back and be an anime character, instead? Ibushi: !  Gedo: Always a pleasure doing business, Kota. |
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Post by corndog on Jan 10, 2019 8:19:19 GMT -5
I love the fact that one of the best wrestlers in the world has every major company willing to sign him, and he's just like "Nah, I'm gonna do whatever the f*** I want. Now pass me those Roman Candles." Crazy nonsense like this is why he will never be under contract with New Japan. Can't see him being full time in AEW, but I guarantee he works there as long as Kenny goes. I can only imagine the crazy shit he will do over there. Also, I wouldn't quite call it a work, because he was legit busted open, but I think Kota Ibushi wanted Ospreay to basically "kill him" on his way out. It's frustrating that he will never be the top guy in New Japan because of himself, but you have to appreciate the guy's insane brilliance. |
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 10, 2019 20:12:49 GMT -5
I love the fact that one of the best wrestlers in the world has every major company willing to sign him, and he's just like "Nah, I'm gonna do whatever the f*** I want. Now pass me those Roman Candles." Crazy nonsense like this is why he will never be under contract with New Japan. Can't see him being full time in AEW, but I guarantee he works there as long as Kenny goes. I can only imagine the crazy shit he will do over there. Also, I wouldn't quite call it a work, because he was legit busted open, but I think Kota Ibushi wanted Ospreay to basically "kill him" on his way out. It's frustrating that he will never be the top guy in New Japan because of himself, but you have to appreciate the guy's insane brilliance. and for me it's his firm desire to be even more independently crazy (even though he could be THE guy in New Japan) just makes him that much more attractive. dude has it all: ability, looks, the body, charisma, and is just f***ing adorably odd. the fact that Kenny searching for "hopelessly lost Ibushi" isn't an ongoing skit on Being the Elite is a shame. |
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Post by the2ndevil on Jan 11, 2019 8:27:27 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. Funny story about this. When the Golden Lovers went to do the CEO show in Daytona, something happened to Ibushi's connecting flight in Atlanta and he got hopelessly lost. Michael Nakazawa (close friend of both Omega and Ibushi who worked DDT with them) had to drive a van from Daytona to Atlanta to pick him up and bring him to the venue. I’ve been to the Atlanta Airport a few times. I do NOT blame him for getting hopelessly lost. |
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 11, 2019 8:31:50 GMT -5
This "Getting Lost" Ibushi thing reminds me of the Joe and Punk losing Nosawa in LA story.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 15:04:04 GMT -5
I love the fact that one of the best wrestlers in the world has every major company willing to sign him, and he's just like "Nah, I'm gonna do whatever the f*** I want. Now pass me those Roman Candles." Crazy nonsense like this is why he will never be under contract with New Japan. Can't see him being full time in AEW, but I guarantee he works there as long as Kenny goes. I can only imagine the crazy shit he will do over there. Also, I wouldn't quite call it a work, because he was legit busted open, but I think Kota Ibushi wanted Ospreay to basically "kill him" on his way out. It's frustrating that he will never be the top guy in New Japan because of himself, but you have to appreciate the guy's insane brilliance. Yea, the stretcher was a work but that elbow wasn't. Kota probably told Will don't hold back and he damn sure didn't
Kota is just the type of dude to do shit and bounce. Comes to the CWC, competes and says well that was fun and just dips
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 11, 2019 15:46:02 GMT -5
Was it 100% the elbow that hurt him? Because he got up for the Stormbreaker just fine but the post spot seemed completely unplanned and hardway busted him, there was a very audible thunk and he seemed groggy after. I'd have thought that's how he got his concussion. It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. Minoru Suzuki's DDT work is so freaking surreal. Imagine if Brock Lesnar had shown up in HUSTLE as the egg-baby instead of Akebono, and then went right back to being a killer. I don't know how he does it without losing credibility. No matter how many goofy DDT runs he does, or his oddly-adorable Instagram, or his One Piece fanboying on Japanese TV, Suzuki still retains the aura of "If I make eye contact with this man he will probably beat me to death with my own spine". |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 11, 2019 15:48:43 GMT -5
Was it 100% the elbow that hurt him? Because he got up for the Stormbreaker just fine but the post spot seemed completely unplanned and hardway busted him, there was a very audible thunk and he seemed groggy after. I'd have thought that's how he got his concussion. It's stuff like this that makes me fully believe that "Kenny and Kota can't travel outside of Japan together without Kota wandering off and getting hopelessly lost and Kenny having to search for him like a concerned parent" is 100% real. Plus, that particular video makes me wish DDT had booked Suzuki vs. Ibushi in a "regular sized yet slower bicycle vs. comically tiny plastic tricycle" chase. No match, just Minoru chasing him like a Coyote/Road Runner cartoon across Tokyo. Minoru Suzuki's DDT work is so freaking surreal. Imagine if Brock Lesnar had shown up in HUSTLE as the egg-baby instead of Akebono, and then went right back to being a killer. I don't know how he does it without losing credibility. No matter how many goofy DDT runs he does, or his oddly-adorable Instagram, or his One Piece fanboying on Japanese TV, Suzuki still retains the aura of "If I make eye contact with this man he will probably beat me to death with my own spine". Can’t really say what gave him the concussion for sure as he took a few hard shots but it most likely was a combination of all of them and taking the stormbreaker didn’t help him either |
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Post by corndog on Jan 11, 2019 16:19:07 GMT -5
Crazy nonsense like this is why he will never be under contract with New Japan. Can't see him being full time in AEW, but I guarantee he works there as long as Kenny goes. I can only imagine the crazy shit he will do over there. Also, I wouldn't quite call it a work, because he was legit busted open, but I think Kota Ibushi wanted Ospreay to basically "kill him" on his way out. It's frustrating that he will never be the top guy in New Japan because of himself, but you have to appreciate the guy's insane brilliance. Yea, the stretcher was a work but that elbow wasn't. Kota probably told Will don't hold back and he damn sure didn't
Kota is just the type of dude to do shit and bounce. Comes to the CWC, competes and says well that was fun and just dips
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