Has Rollins surpassed Reigns?

[ChitownKnight]

In terms of wwe accomplishments? He was the first of the shield to win a word title at the mania ME, he’s beaten Roman clean atleast twice, he’s held the title longer than Roman, and if he beats Brock at mania that seals the deal. Idk about everyone else but to me it feels like Seth has been the guy all along

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Roman has a Rumble win and four world title reigns, so...

[rnrk supports BLM]

TBH I think it'll take at least a year or two at the top for Seth to wash off the stink of being the backup guy after Roman's health forced him out.

[Dub H]

Reigns has a Rumble win,4 world titles, 4 WM Main events if i`m not mistaken...,including beating Taker at WM.

So no.

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As far as how over he is and feeling like a big deal, absolutely.

Title reigns and rumble wins don't matter at all. If they did, we'd be arguing that Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio were a bigger deal than Andre the Giant and Roddy Piper. It's the Sheamus effect where no matter how many accolades you put on paper for a wrestler, it doesn't even matter if they're not booked in a manner to make you care about any of it.

[Dub H]

Jan 10, 2019 14:25:14 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

As far as how over he is and feeling like a big deal, absolutely.

Title reigns and rumble wins don't matter at all. If they did, we'd be arguing that Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio were a bigger deal than Andre the Giant and Roddy Piper. It's the Sheamus effect where no matter how many accolades you put on paper for a wrestler, it doesn't even matter if they're not booked in a manner to make you care about any of it.

Well, OP specifically says in wwe accomplishments.

if those accomplishments were a waste on Roman,Del Rio and Sheamus..yes,but that is another story

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Roman has 4 World titles, 4 Wrestlemania main events, 2 Summerslam main events and a Royal Rumble win.

Seth has 1 World title, 1 Wrestlemania main event (if you even count that since it wasn’t announced beforehand), 0 Summerslam main events and 0 Royal Rumble wins.

Seth would need to completely dominate for like another 2 years before he reaches Roman's kayfabe level.

[mrbananagrabber]

From an on paper perspective not even close.

[mcstoklasa]

No but he’s better than reigns

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Jan 10, 2019 15:38:13 GMT -5 justsomeguy said:

Roman has 4 World titles, 4 Wrestlemania main events, 2 Summerslam main events and a Royal Rumble win.

Seth has 1 World title, 1 Wrestlemania main event (if you even count that since it wasn’t announced beforehand), 0 Summerslam main events and 0 Royal Rumble wins.

Seth would need to completely dominate for like another 2 years before he reaches Roman's kayfabe level.

Seth has 2 world titles. But one only lasted like 5 minutes.

[Toilet Paper Roll]

No, and the second Reigns comes back he’s number one contender and then champion.

[Shark]

Rollins has 1 NXT title win, 2 IC title wins, 4 Tag title wins, 1 MITB win, 1 US title win, 2 WWE title wins.

Reigns has 1 IC title win, 1 US title win, 1 Tag title win, 1 Universal title win, 3 WWE title wins, 1 Royal Rumble win

Really, they're more on equal footing than you'd think. Both have beaten Triple H at Mania so that kind of cancels out. Reigns has 4 Mania main events including beating Taker. I don't really think we should count Summerslam main events. It's not as important as Mania. So all totaled, Reigns has 13 major accolades to his name to Rollins' 11. Rollins has more championships to his name while Reigns overtakes with the other accomplishments.

[sportatorium]

Reigns would be slotted in as top face or heel on either show at the moment. Seth is right up there though. If he does beat Brock and has a great run as champion, he could surpass him.

[Cela]

In terms of Kayfabe. No. Never. There is almost literally nothing Rollins can do to surpass Kayfabe Reigns. If he had an entire Wrestlemania dedicated to him, and he beat every person on the roster. And then Stone Cold, The Rock, Hogan, and the Corpse of Andre the Giant came out to raise his hand. Maybe.

[ChitownKnight]

What has reigns really done though that was THAT remarkable? Two of the four manias he Main evented, he got pinned, he needed a distraction to beat Brock, one of his mania victories was over a triple h who has been more of an authority figure for the previous 6 years (as well as Rollins beating him the next year with one leg) Maybe Taker but In 2017 he was a broken down old man. I think when reigns comes back and wins the rumble or whatever, that will be his true shining moment.

[Tea & Crumpets]

Not even close.

Roman would probably have tied Hogan's record for consecutive Mania main events this year if he hadn't got sick (or broken it if you don't count WM9 as it wasn't advertised in advance). Roman broke Kane's record for Rumble eliminations. He has a record for winning a Survivor Series match basically by himself. Honestly even if he retired now, in strictly kayfabe terms he's a HoF-headliner in conversation for the top 5 of all time, even if on a non-kayfabe level he's a long way behind.

When you look at major titles- Roman has 4 world titles, 1 Rumble. Seth? 2 world titles, one of which lasted a few minutes. Midcard and tag, sure, Rollins has more belts. But the prestige is on a whole other level, those titles are a long way off the same importance level.

Roman has eaten more losses than you'd expect given his booking, which created this weird paradox of the be-all-end-all who is also the plucky underdog, but overall his accolades, accomplishments and constant prominence mean that nobody else on the roster who is full-time, even AJ or Bryan, reaches his level. Let's not forget or rewrite how rejected he was for being overpushed, there's a reason people felt that way.