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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 15, 2019 2:36:01 GMT -5
Randy Orton. Title after title, the best part of a hundred PPV main events and he's never been the guy who draws the crowd. They've tried so hard with him, but he's always fallen short and when his program flops, it's usually the other guy's fault in the eyes of management. When Randy gets hurt, he goes unmissed by the crowd, the WWE have a legion of guys who can take his place, which is telling given how much they invested into him.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jan 15, 2019 2:54:16 GMT -5
One name I was surprised to not see mentioned, even though I love the guy...
Former 2 time IC champion, US champion, Tag champion.....
Santino Marella.
Still like him tho
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Post by Doctor No on Jan 15, 2019 3:10:31 GMT -5
Bliss HHH Orton Edge
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Post by abjordans on Jan 15, 2019 7:17:43 GMT -5
I can’t really think of who my answer is, but I know it’s not Charlotte. Unimpressive wrestler... Charlotte? I mean, that is just objectively and subjectively wrong.
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Post by Dang! on Jan 15, 2019 14:40:33 GMT -5
HHH Hands down. At least post 2000. After 2000, he was an upper mid card talent AT BEST pushed as Cena, Rock or Hogan. Everything about him was bland and boring, from his promos to his brawling one dimensional ring work, and he got like 10-11 title reigns, and a loss of a MILLIONS of viewers despite the ridiculous push The other guys mentioned were overpushed, but they didn't get the lengthy never-ending, year after year, BORE Push that HHH got for a decade. Especially when there were far more deserving guys at the time like Booker T or RVD who were far more over and exciting A list of the most umimpressive wrestler with most kayfabe accomplishments is the only list where Triple H actually SHOULD be on top of. Followed by HHH, Levesque, The Game and Jeff Jarrett.
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Post by Scott on Jan 15, 2019 18:22:29 GMT -5
Definitely Edge. 31 championships total!
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Post by fw91 on Jan 15, 2019 18:46:02 GMT -5
One name I was surprised to not see mentioned, even though I love the guy... Former 2 time IC champion, US champion, Tag champion..... Santino Marella. Still like him tho eh, it was all revolving around comedy. can't take anything away from him, but don't think he qualifies in this discussion.
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Post by theshockmaster on Jan 17, 2019 14:12:04 GMT -5
I'll say Kane. He is a loyal guy and a good presence in the locker room, but has scarcely had a really standout match, and has spent most of his career as a "local man"
Former WWE, World Heavyweight, and ECW Champion 12 time world Tag Team Champion(!) 2 time IC Champion 2010 MITB Winner
Not bad for a guy who electrocuted Shane McMahon's testicles.
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Post by The Trashman on Jan 17, 2019 14:34:10 GMT -5
Randy Orton
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 17, 2019 14:45:23 GMT -5
One name I was surprised to not see mentioned, even though I love the guy... Former 2 time IC champion, US champion, Tag champion..... Santino Marella. Still like him tho Honestly, given the reactions he got when they teased the Rumble win, and then in the Elimination Chamber against Bryan, I think Santino could've worked further up the card, at least occasionally as a Foley-esque plucky underdog.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 18, 2019 20:00:49 GMT -5
I can’t really think of who my answer is, but I know it’s not Charlotte. Unimpressive wrestler... Charlotte? I mean, that is just objectively and subjectively wrong. These are the same people who say Miz is a terrible promo. They don't like said person, and mistake that for them being bad. Kinda how I seperate the smarks from marks on this forum. You can dislike someone and still acknowledge they are good at as specific thing. To others, if they dislike someone, they are automatically just bad at everything
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 18, 2019 21:19:16 GMT -5
I gotta go with Sheamus. At least Del Rio passed the initial "Could this guy get a push?" impression. I actually quite liked Del Rio's initial stuff, it was just when they stripped away all of his shtick that was working (the cool cars, Ricardo) that he became a bore. Sheamus to me has never been anything resembling a top guy. Imagine any other era where anyone would have even considered putting a world title on this guy. Maybe Gagne would have in the AWA if Sheamus gave him the 50 grand but that is about it. But Sheamus, who has never been top guy level over, has been a multi time world champion, KOTR winner, Rumble winner, MITB winner, multi time tag champ, you name it. But does anyone care? Agreed. I can’t think of anyone else that’s accomplished so much yet hardly anyone cares. He’s in a solid tag team with Cesaro and people are content to see him there. No one is complaining that he should be a world champion again.
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Post by Matt on Jan 18, 2019 22:28:29 GMT -5
Dean Ambrose talks like he has a mouth full of marbles and has the weakest looking offense.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 18, 2019 22:39:04 GMT -5
I can’t really think of who my answer is, but I know it’s not Charlotte. Unimpressive wrestler... Charlotte? I mean, that is just objectively and subjectively wrong. These are the same people who say Miz is a terrible promo. They don't like said person, and mistake that for them being bad. Kinda how I seperate the smarks from marks on this forum. You can dislike someone and still acknowledge they are good at as specific thing. To others, if they dislike someone, they are automatically just bad at everything The issues with Miz on the Mic is that he becomes very repetitive. he makes okay to good promos for months which are fine and pulls a great one on rare occasions. I think it is the same issue people have with his wrestling, it is solid but becomes old fast if he doesnt add some variety. I think he is a solid 7/10. I would say his accolades are proportional to his skills.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 23:00:53 GMT -5
Charlotte has had much better matches in her career than Orton and Miz combined.
Orton has had like... 4 good matches I remember. 2 of them were with Christian. The other two were Foley at Backlash 04 and Cena at HIAC 2014.
I dare anyone to name me a great Miz match. One that you would honestly, hand on heart go back and watch on the Network. This is a guy that’s won literally everything in the company. That WM27 was the worst WM main event of all time.
Not even Daniel Bryan could drag a good match out of these guys.. That’s saying something.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 23:06:49 GMT -5
I think the fact a good amount of people are picking Charlotte pretty much confirms what I was saying in that Becky/Ronda/Charlotte thread. Charlotte hasn't reached the level that she has potential to reach which is why they're still elevating her as well, regardless of her accomplishments. Yeah she's done a lot, yeah she's dope and all but the thing with Charlotte is she keeps improving and she's still not "there" yet. She's won a good amount but she's tapping into a level she wasn't previously. Like Charlotte in the Becky ladder match and TLC match was her doing some Luffy Gear 2 shit, she's evolving. To the topic nah it's not her.
I don't see how Del Rio loses this one. I mean this is a 4 time world champion who's beaten Cena clean, won a Rumble, won a MITB and is less interesting than Sheamus in his least interesting days. This guy is BAD because even his MOVESET is boring. His promos are boring. His look is boring. Like, you gotta be a different being to have EVERYTHING about you be boring.
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