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Post by sportatorium on Jan 22, 2019 0:56:05 GMT -5
...are quickly becoming Sheamus/Del Rio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 0:58:01 GMT -5
They should give Elias a title shot against Brock at Fastlane or something. Obviously I wouldn't expect Elias to win or the match to be a classic, but dude's over and you can do those kinds of things on a PPV like that.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 22, 2019 1:14:55 GMT -5
So how long before someone here starts distorting their faces?
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Post by saneiac on Jan 22, 2019 1:16:52 GMT -5
Sheamus and Del Rio, at the time of their feud, were both fairly over. People wanted to see them, just not against each other.
I don't want to see Corbin against anybody.
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Post by ilggant on Jan 22, 2019 7:30:01 GMT -5
It's funny because in his song Elias actually said 'Do we really need to see it again' (or something similar) in relation to himself vs Corbin.
Then they proceeded to have a match.
Why
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 22, 2019 9:23:56 GMT -5
Worst part is Corbin winning. He's not over at all and Elias very much is. Why feed Elias to a heatless waste of space?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 22, 2019 9:35:50 GMT -5
Sheamus and Del Rio, at the time of their feud, were both fairly over. People wanted to see them, just not against each other. I don't want to see Corbin against anybody. I really hope we get a spot at the Rumble where everyone gangs up on Corbin and eliminates him. |
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Post by thirteen3 on Jan 22, 2019 9:39:12 GMT -5
Worst part is Corbin winning. He's not over at all and Elias very much is. Why feed Elias to a heatless waste of space? He's getting plenty of boos which Vince and Co are interpreting as him being over as a heel. Prepare to see even more Corbin. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 10:14:53 GMT -5
Worst part is Corbin winning. He's not over at all and Elias very much is. Why feed Elias to a heatless waste of space? He's getting plenty of boos which Vince and Co are interpreting as him being over as a heel. Prepare to see even more Corbin. Yeah, Corbin's the most hated heel on Raw right now. |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 22, 2019 10:21:50 GMT -5
Both of them are pure WWE products and it shows.
They. Are. Boring. Wrestlers.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 22, 2019 10:25:16 GMT -5
This was only their second main roster match following the one two weeks ago. Baron did squash Elias twice on NXT though.
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Post by evilhomer on Jan 22, 2019 10:51:18 GMT -5
Worst part is Corbin winning. He's not over at all and Elias very much is. Why feed Elias to a heatless waste of space? Elias's problem is that he's too good (but not good enough to warrant a major push). He can take losses and still have heat, so he falls into the feeder category in the hopes of transferring some of that heat. |
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Post by thirteen3 on Jan 22, 2019 11:04:18 GMT -5
Both of them are pure WWE products and it shows. They. Are. Boring. Wrestlers. I can not name a singe move of Elias, other than punches, kicks and headlocks. Doesn't help that in the 2 years that I stopped watching that the announcers don't seem to call moves anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 11:13:10 GMT -5
Corbin's not over?
Well.. That's just not true. He gets great heel heat. He's not getting "cool heel" cheers - he's a douche who people like to see get whooped.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 22, 2019 11:26:49 GMT -5
Corbin's not over? Well.. That's just not true. He gets great heel heat. He's not getting "cool heel" cheers - he's a douche who people like to see get whooped. I don't know, I think he's got that "please go away, you're boring" heat. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 22, 2019 11:55:02 GMT -5
Take a look at the ratings during November. That would indicate that Corbin is not over at all. I don't even get why he is even being pushed or why he's still wearing the dress attire. He isn't management now. I said a few weeks ago I have zero idea or concept of how to ever draw money with Corbin at this point. The McMahons came on TV and literally said that the guy sucks and is the main reason ratings are terrible. There is no possible coming back from that, so why waste Elias or anyone else trying to get him over?
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jan 22, 2019 12:09:23 GMT -5
They should give Elias a title shot against Brock at Fastlane or something. Obviously I wouldn't expect Elias to win or the match to be a classic, but dude's over and you can do those kinds of things on a PPV like that. I would have done Elias/Brock at the Rumble and saved Balor/Brock for WrestleMania with Balor winning. Elias would have had entertaining segments with Heyman, and you could have had an entertaining midcard act jobbing to Lesnar instead of having Balor get the "Suplex City" treatment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 12:32:30 GMT -5
Take a look at the ratings during November. That would indicate that Corbin is not over at all. I don't even get why he is even being pushed or why he's still wearing the dress attire. He isn't management now. I said a few weeks ago I have zero idea or concept of how to ever draw money with Corbin at this point. The McMahons came on TV and literally said that the guy sucks and is the main reason ratings are terrible. There is no possible coming back from that, so why waste Elias or anyone else trying to get him over? The ratings tell me that Corbin being the focal point of too many episodes of Raw was a bad idea; Baron is not the guy for that. Vince unfairly made him the scapegoat, despite the fact that he's the one who had him plastered all over the show, and the one who decided to put the Universal title back on an absent Lesnar after his interminable reign *finally* ended. Corbin's in a much better position now as a smarmy midcard heel. A heel's main objective is to get heat, and he's getting it in spades. And even if some of it is "f*** off" heat, it's not going to affect ratings since he's slotted in a more appropriate role down the card. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 22, 2019 13:25:20 GMT -5
Corbin is really in a bigger position than that of smarmy midcard heel though. He's currently in a pseudo feud with Strowman and in theory Strowman will have to actually beat him in a serious match to get back in title contention. I guess the point is that I don't trust WWE to not try to force another bad Corbin main event push.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 22, 2019 13:38:48 GMT -5
If there's any heel on the main roster that gets X-Pac Heat, it's Baron Corbin.
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