Shai
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Post by Shai on Jan 26, 2019 10:08:28 GMT -5
As someone who cheers for heels more often then not...its nice having a heel I actually hate and want to see lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 11:50:25 GMT -5
I'm glad people are enjoying this run, and it's difficult to argue that he's not doing good work. People (including me) thought it'd be incredibly difficult for him to get booed, but here we are.
That said, it's fast forward for me when he's talking, and a big factor - like some have mentioned - is that I don't *want* this Daniel Bryan. I don't buy it. There's still a lot of lingering disappointment about his return being bungled; it was an absolute layup on a 4 foot tall hoop, and they missed by a mile. He felt like just another guy almost instantly.
The "new" Daniel Bryan doesn't feel organic (heh), it feels like an emergency plan after fudging up a sure thing.
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Post by yash on Jan 26, 2019 12:38:35 GMT -5
I think the Lesnar match was Brock’s second best match ever behind the Eddie Guerrero match in 2004. Brock yelling “WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?” with a shocked look on his face after surviving is one of my favorite moments ever in wrestling legit. I would not go that far, the matches he had with cena on extreme rules and punk on SummerSlam 13 were some of the best matches of wwe history, certainly better then his match with Bryan
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Post by nickcave on Jan 26, 2019 12:57:20 GMT -5
Yeah I think his character is great, it works in the same way that Mick Foley's Anti-Hardcore heel run in ECW worked. Both make valid and good points but its the self-righteous and holier than thou nature of the characters complete with the total conviction that they are in the right no matter what that sells it.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 26, 2019 13:19:37 GMT -5
Bryan's doing great work as a heel. He's making me want to boo him in a good way, though part of me wants to see him win, too. Because I think a lot of the power of his current heel gimmick IS that he's WWE Champion and I think it'd lose something if he was chasing the strap instead of holding it.
Just, for the love of God, when he does lose it, at least make sure it's after a good match. None of that stupid shit like when he lost the WHC belt at Mania in 18 seconds to Sheamus of all people. And hopefully he can stay healthy as well.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 26, 2019 13:22:34 GMT -5
Bryan's doing great work as a heel. He's making me want to boo him in a good way, though part of me wants to see him win, too. Because I think a lot of the power of his current heel gimmick IS that he's WWE Champion and I think it'd lose something if he was chasing the strap instead of holding it. Just, for the love of God, when he does lose it, at least make sure it's after a good match. None of that stupid shit like when he lost the WHC belt at Mania in 18 seconds to Sheamus of all people. And hopefully he can stay healthy as well. I don’t think he’s actually lost a world title in a match that’s gone over 30 seconds yet. He had the thing with Sheamus, the cash in by Orton, and the other two title runs were being stripped of it for a dodgy finish and vacated because of injury.
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Post by dreidemy on Jan 26, 2019 13:41:10 GMT -5
Bryan's doing great work as a heel. He's making me want to boo him in a good way, though part of me wants to see him win, too. Because I think a lot of the power of his current heel gimmick IS that he's WWE Champion and I think it'd lose something if he was chasing the strap instead of holding it. Just, for the love of God, when he does lose it, at least make sure it's after a good match. None of that stupid shit like when he lost the WHC belt at Mania in 18 seconds to Sheamus of all people. And hopefully he can stay healthy as well. I don’t think he’s actually lost a world title in a match that’s gone over 30 seconds yet. He had the thing with Sheamus, the cash in by Orton, and the other two title runs were being stripped of it for a dodgy finish and vacated because of injury. HBK really taught him well
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Post by Dub H on Jan 26, 2019 15:41:54 GMT -5
Its the way I feel, He is being a Good Heel,but eh should be a gigantic face.
Kinda like With Dean,except from all accounts,Dean's turn sucked
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 26, 2019 15:57:48 GMT -5
The under the radar feeling is valid. I believe that fans don’t really want to boo Daniel Bryan. The heel character work is great, and he’s putting a ton into it. AJ Styles is a solid babyface, but is nowhere near as beloved as DB was. We really haven’t been given the chance to build up too much love for Styles or hate for Bryan in this feud. They are both guys playing their parts very well right now, but that’s about it.
Bryan is close to Bob Backlund in his classic heel run. Backlund felt like he was on intellectual and moral high ground over the audience and his opponents, and came across as an evil bastard. Bryan is more of a smarmy jerk.
We’ve also been conditioned as fans to accept short turns to freshen guys up, but I don’t think anyone believes that Daniel Bryan is a long term heel. People will be cheering him at some point and he’ll morph into an Undertaker-esque alignment which is more beloved than heel or face.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 27, 2019 17:56:26 GMT -5
The best heels are always the ones who are right in what they're saying but who are complete assholes in how they say it. Yeah. Bryan's doing the same shtick that Mr. Backlund and CM Punk did, just with different words. Those two worked like this one does because, well, they were right.
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 27, 2019 18:01:21 GMT -5
Remember when he turned heel and a lot of people bitched that it wouldn't work and they were ruining him?
Good times.
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Post by freeze Austin on Jan 27, 2019 19:50:50 GMT -5
He's done good heel work from the clips I've seen (though it's really only heelish to the more redneck part of the wrestling fanbase), it's just disappointing that they blew the return so bad that they didn't feel they could pull off a gradual rise back to the championship as a face (ala HBK in the first Elimination Chamber) before eventually turning him heel.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 27, 2019 20:03:45 GMT -5
I think with the hype about Becky Lynch, the hype about AEW, what will Omega do, and then a bunch of just complaining that every thing else sucks, Daniel Bryan having the run of his career is completely flying under the radar and not being appreciated. He is completely immersed in this character and cutting promos the likes of which he never has. He is also tearing it up in the ring, having awesome matches every time he goes between the ropes. I really wish people were giving him his flowers and propers that he deserves. I just feel it is not getting the appreciation it deserves, as in my eyes, he is the best all around performer in the business by a wide margin. Do you all feel this way, or am I just enjoying him too much? I'm a fan of this run. I find myself agreeing with him too much to root against him. Sorry AJ!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 20:14:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like this at all. I haven't been interested in the gimmick, which on the one hand, is how a heel should get heat, but on the other hand, I'm not into listening to his argument if he's using PeTA as ambassadors.
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Post by froggyfrog on Jan 27, 2019 22:00:05 GMT -5
CJ Parker with a positive W/L record
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 27, 2019 22:15:34 GMT -5
*watching this boring ass Royal Rumble match* ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ParchedNegativeAttwatersprairiechicken-max-1mb.gif) The radar, sir! It appears to be....jammed!
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2019 0:00:20 GMT -5
*watching this boring ass Royal Rumble match* ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ParchedNegativeAttwatersprairiechicken-max-1mb.gif) The radar, sir! It appears to be....jammed! Yeeeah, that match was not very good.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 28, 2019 0:02:49 GMT -5
*watching this boring ass Royal Rumble match* ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ParchedNegativeAttwatersprairiechicken-max-1mb.gif) The radar, sir! It appears to be....jammed! FICKLE!
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 28, 2019 0:03:03 GMT -5
*watching this boring ass Royal Rumble match* ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ParchedNegativeAttwatersprairiechicken-max-1mb.gif) The radar, sir! It appears to be....jammed! Yeeeah, that match was not very good. FICKLE!
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Post by blscks on Jan 28, 2019 0:06:52 GMT -5
The new Daniel Bryan matches are a bore fest of epic proportions. Yikes.
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