Terry Gordy's Brain Damage

[willywonka666]

Morbid title I know, but was wondering to what extent was the brain damage after his overdose?

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Jan 25, 2019 21:58:50 GMT -5 willywonka666 said:

Morbid title I know, but was wondering to what extent was the brain damage after his overdose?

Watch his tag match with doc death in ecw. It's depressing.

[Medicinal Thunder Liger]

His shoot interview is pretty sad. Was taped shortly before he passed and he was just out of it.

[chazraps]

I didn't really realize the extent of it until it was discussed on STWW earlier this year. Prichard really put it in perspective exactly what it did to him.

[Mozenrath]

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

[Medicinal Thunder Liger]

Jan 25, 2019 23:00:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

It sucks the only way we got Gordy vs. Taker was when Gordy was past his best years

[chrom]

I do remember Edge making a remark about his passing that ticked Hayes off who looked ready to strangle him

[Joe Neglia]

Jan 25, 2019 23:01:58 GMT -5 Medicinal Thunder Liger said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:00:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

It sucks the only way we got Gordy vs. Taker was when Gordy was past his best years

They first had a match in 1989, when UT was still The Punisher in Texas. Gordy won that one. Then the tag match (UT/Hart vs Gordy/Foley) in Dubai and Gordy jobbing at IYH 12.

[JIMBOB]

Jan 25, 2019 23:21:14 GMT -5 chrom said:

I do remember Edge making a remark about his passing that ticked Hayes off who looked ready to strangle him

When and where did this happen?

[chrom]

Jan 25, 2019 23:32:43 GMT -5 JIMBOB said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:21:14 GMT -5 chrom said:

I do remember Edge making a remark about his passing that ticked Hayes off who looked ready to strangle him

When and where did this happen?

During the feud with Matt I recall on Byte This. He talked with Hayes who had mentored the Hardys their early years and things got tense and Edge mocked and said if he was going to call Gordy and then said he can't because he was dead

[J. Hova]

Jan 25, 2019 23:00:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

Prichard touched on this on one of his episodes.  Essentially, they put Gordy under the hood to spare him the embarrassment if he was truly damaged goods.  The intention was that if he was good to go, they would either do the big reveal or just phase out the Executioner and phase in Gordy properly.  Obviously, this didn't come to fruition.

I think that really does speak volumes about the WWE and VKM.  Here is a guy who is well past his prime (and sorry, it was of his own doing, he was only in his mid-30s at the time and only a few years removed from being thought of as one of the best big men in the business), and not only do they give him a couple month run to get some money but protected him, his legacy, and his future earning potential elsewhere.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 26, 2019 2:02:56 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:00:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

Prichard touched on this on one of his episodes.  Essentially, they put Gordy under the hood to spare him the embarrassment if he was truly damaged goods.  The intention was that if he was good to go, they would either do the big reveal or just phase out the Executioner and phase in Gordy properly.  Obviously, this didn't come to fruition.

I think that really does speak volumes about the WWE and VKM.  Here is a guy who is well past his prime (and sorry, it was of his own doing, he was only in his mid-30s at the time and only a few years removed from being thought of as one of the best big men in the business), and not only do they give him a couple month run to get some money but protected him, his legacy, and his future earning potential elsewhere.

"Mick, sometimes Vince does things just to be nice." -Terry Funk, when Foley asked him why Vince even bothered hiring certain talents

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Raven and Heyman deserve credit too because his singles match with Raven is really good. Like watching the old Terry. It was put together immaculately to look after him.

[arrogantmodel]

Jan 25, 2019 23:36:18 GMT -5 chrom said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:32:43 GMT -5 JIMBOB said:

When and where did this happen?

During the feud with Matt I recall on Byte This. He talked with Hayes who had mentored the Hardys their early years and things got tense and Edge mocked and said if he was going to call Gordy and then said he can't because he was dead

It was on Raw. Yeah, Edge was jawing with Hayes and said, "What are you gonna do, call Terry? Oh, that's right, you can't...because he's dead!"

[WoodStoner1]

Jan 26, 2019 2:28:06 GMT -5 @returnofthestryker said:

Raven and Heyman deserve credit too because his singles match with Raven is really good. Like watching the old Terry. It was put together immaculately to look after him.

Now this was one beauty of ECW style. (see also: Public Enemy looking really great, well at the time...)

If you go to Google Groups and look up Paul Herzog's reports from the Sportatorium, he does cover the Freebird comeback in the GWF in 1994. His descriptions give you an idea about Terry's condition. He told a story about Terry returning down the heels' entrance path after a match (FBs were faces at the time). And called a match where AHMED JOHNSON was doing all the work for the both of them.

[salz4life]

Jan 26, 2019 2:02:56 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:00:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

People would try to give him work to support him, but he had lost almost all of his ability. The final WWF run is difficult to imagine is the same guy, and I can only imagine the Executioner gimmick was intended to try to save face on the company's part for him. He didn't wrestle like the same man anymore.

Prichard touched on this on one of his episodes.  Essentially, they put Gordy under the hood to spare him the embarrassment if he was truly damaged goods.  The intention was that if he was good to go, they would either do the big reveal or just phase out the Executioner and phase in Gordy properly.  Obviously, this didn't come to fruition.

I think that really does speak volumes about the WWE and VKM.  Here is a guy who is well past his prime (and sorry, it was of his own doing, he was only in his mid-30s at the time and only a few years removed from being thought of as one of the best big men in the business), and not only do they give him a couple month run to get some money but protected him, his legacy, and his future earning potential elsewhere.

I think VKM is probably a really caring guy behind the scenes. He's made mistakes and sometimes the "business man" gets in the way sometimes, but I really think he cares about a great majority of the "boys". That's just my own opinion.

[BlackoutCreature]

I recently did a bit of a dive into Terry Gordy's ECW run and was actually surprised at how little of it is available to watch. He had a feud with Brian Lee, worked several shows as a tag team with Tommy Dreamer, and was part of the main event of at least two ECW arena shows. Yet outside his debut against Raven and the tag match with the Eliminators, I haven't been able to track any of it down. I wonder if his condition has anything to do with that.

[chronocross]

Jan 26, 2019 5:20:36 GMT -5 arrogantmodel said:

Jan 25, 2019 23:36:18 GMT -5 chrom said:

During the feud with Matt I recall on Byte This. He talked with Hayes who had mentored the Hardys their early years and things got tense and Edge mocked and said if he was going to call Gordy and then said he can't because he was dead

It was on Raw. Yeah, Edge was jawing with Hayes and said, "What are you gonna do, call Terry? Oh, that's right, you can't...because he's dead!"

I think they went that route when Hayes was on SD on MVP's "VIP Lounge" Segment in late 2007 during the Hardy/MVP feud.

[Joe Neglia]

After the incident, I only saw Terry two times. Once at an indy show in Tyler, Texas in 98, where he faced the Goon (Bill Irwin) in the main event, and another the following year when he teamed with Hayes (in what I believe was their final time teaming) in Mineola. Can't say much one way or the other about the Goon match, my memory on it isn't great, but the second show I got to talk to him for a few minutes after the show. Dude was really nice but completely vacant. There just didn't seem to be anybody really home.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Jan 26, 2019 2:28:06 GMT -5 @returnofthestryker said:

Raven and Heyman deserve credit too because his singles match with Raven is really good. Like watching the old Terry. It was put together immaculately to look after him.

Absolutely, Raven bumped for him and designed the match to be as simple as possible.

Unfortunately, Gordy got exposed the next time he didn't worked with someone who would bump and sell for him.