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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 26, 2019 16:01:58 GMT -5
Admittedly I didn’t watch wrestling at all during Roma’s run as a Horseman, but I know he was a major disappointment for those that were hoping for Tully to return.
Watching Nitro from 97, McMichael had a long run with the Horseman, but I never took him seriously, and with Debra, it brought in an unnecessary era of having hangers on to the group that ultimately hurt.
So I’ll vote Mongo-you?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 26, 2019 16:07:02 GMT -5
Mongo was definitely a worse wrestler, but he also had the star athlete thing contributing to his elite status.
Paul Roma had a good look and talent, but he also should have been built up more. Power and Glory before then had been his highlight, and they didn't really stay a team long enough to establish him as higher than a jobber.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 26, 2019 16:12:20 GMT -5
Mongo's matches and promos were sub-Horsemen territory.
Roma had good chemistry with Arn.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 26, 2019 16:31:02 GMT -5
I liked Mongo even if his matches weren't much to write about, as for Roma I can't remember much he did until he paired up with Paul Orndorff.
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Post by nickcave on Jan 26, 2019 17:41:26 GMT -5
Elevating Paul Roma to Horseman status without doing any effort to rebuild him from jobber status before was like a proto-Jinder Mahal thing. At least they never made him a world title contender. Mongo sucked and it probably should have been Jarrett in the Horsemen than him but he at least was booked like a threat his entire tenure and he had the NFL pro athlete legacy attached to him.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 26, 2019 17:55:11 GMT -5
Paul Roma was pure jobber, almost as bad as if Buck Quartermaine had become a Horseman. Mongo was awesome to me, as a kid. Even if he wasn't a great wrestler, he was an athlete who did his best to make the position work with WCW. He could have stayed a commentator, heel version, without any physical activity or he could have taken time off and collected a pay check without wrestling like so many hires did but he put an effort in. Given his background and his attempt to be the best he could I think he was a very good choice for Horseman. He may have been an even better choice if he had taken the job in the late 1980s when the Horsemen were the most famous and Steve was coming off the 1985 Bears Super Bowl win a few years earlier.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 26, 2019 18:05:34 GMT -5
Roma was the better worker, but Mongo was the better Horseman. He might not have been very good in the ring, but Mongo had a big personality, a Super Bowl ring which made him feel like an elite athlete, and genuinely treated being in the Horsemen as an honor. Roma felt like just another generic musclehead of his day and treated being a Horseman no different then being in a tag team with Jim Powers.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 26, 2019 18:10:31 GMT -5
I never cared for Mongo. He never had a good or memorable match in my opinion. I’ve watched shoot interviews where members of the Horsemen put him over because he was a football player that won a superbowl. That’s nice and all but that didn’t do much of anything for pro wrestling to me. I guess they really liked him and liked hanging out with him. While Roma seemed a very unlikely choice to be a Horsemen his tag team with Arn Anderson was decent and I remember enjoying their brief run with the tag titles.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jan 26, 2019 18:30:50 GMT -5
While Roma was a better wrestler, he was ass in terms of personality and his rants against Flair and thinking very highly of himself only hindered his legacy.
Mongo, while ass as a wrestler, had more of a personality and looked like he belonged as a Horseman...plus his personality and ability to gel with the Horsemen made him more of a match than Roma.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 26, 2019 18:39:49 GMT -5
It's a six of one, etc. issue. On one hand, I can't shake the dopey announcer persona from Mongo. On the other, he was at least an unknown commodity unlike the WWF job guy/JTTS. On the other other, never was great as a wrestler.
Then you got Roma who has the look and was decent in the ring, but....WWF JOBBER!!!!
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 26, 2019 18:41:16 GMT -5
Romo was a jobber in the WWF; had a very short run in Power and Glory, and went back to a job squad. He belonged in the Horseman as much as Barry Horowitz did. Mongo, for all his faults, was a Super Bowl Champion, had some charisma, and had some celebrity status.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jan 26, 2019 18:41:30 GMT -5
Mongo had some cred. Played football, had famous friends, was an announcer on every week, had a hot wife. Yeah his promos sucked and he was a poor worker, but he was someone Flair could party with.
Paul Roma was a jobber. Yeah he won PWI most improved, and Power and the Glory had a moment, but he was a nobody jobber. When he came out, and not Tully, it freaking sucked. It killed the Horsemen until Benoit/Pillman 2 years later.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 26, 2019 19:07:48 GMT -5
Mongo was bad, yes, but he at least had the decency to be ENTERTAININGLY bad. Roma just sucked, full stop.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 26, 2019 19:10:18 GMT -5
If Paul Roma had come in to WCW with a few months or even a few weeks buildup in winning matches, then just joined Arn Anderson as a team, his origins with WCW would have gone over a little better. Outside of the first few weeks of the 1993 Horsemen, it was really Ric Flair as a single wrestler and Arn and Paul Roma as a tag team with little mention of the Horsemen of that time period.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 26, 2019 19:12:42 GMT -5
If Paul Roma had come in to WCW with a few months or even a few weeks buildup in winning matches, then just joined Arn Anderson as a team, his origins with WCW would have gone over a little better. Outside of the first few weeks of the 1993 Horsemen, it was really Ric Flair as a single wrestler and Arn and Paul Roma as a tag team with little mention of the Horsemen of that time period. This reminds me, I did not watch WCW all that regularly in 1993. Who was considered the fourth Horseman of this group? Ole?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 26, 2019 19:14:06 GMT -5
If Paul Roma had come in to WCW with a few months or even a few weeks buildup in winning matches, then just joined Arn Anderson as a team, his origins with WCW would have gone over a little better. Outside of the first few weeks of the 1993 Horsemen, it was really Ric Flair as a single wrestler and Arn and Paul Roma as a tag team with little mention of the Horsemen of that time period. This reminds me, I did not watch WCW all that regularly in 1993. Who was considered the fourth Horseman of this group? Ole? There wasn't one. As I recall, Ole was around for the "re-formation", and then immediately f***ed off.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 26, 2019 19:17:00 GMT -5
This reminds me, I did not watch WCW all that regularly in 1993. Who was considered the fourth Horseman of this group? Ole? There wasn't one. As I recall, Ole was around for the "re-formation", and then immediately f***ed off. Then I say we retroactively declare that Fifi the Maid was the fourth Horseman of this era. We have that authority right?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 26, 2019 19:17:32 GMT -5
Mongo had a name and mainstream popularity, unfortunately he was a shit wrestler.
Roma was at the wrong place at the wrong time and a last minute addition after Tully tested positive.
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Post by chrom on Jan 26, 2019 20:50:39 GMT -5
Mongo had the look and carried himself with The Horseman swagger.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 20:51:35 GMT -5
Mongo wasn’t even a proper wrestler.
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