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Post by Gawk Rivers on Jan 28, 2019 1:04:47 GMT -5
I'm still going to keep hoping for it regardless. How dare you like someone! Didn't you read the OP! He said cut it out! You rebel now, but I'm still in witness protection from the time I said I didn't like Velveteen Dream. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 28, 2019 1:06:09 GMT -5
OP's tone is objectively bad but also nah, Kofi can go and I still would love to see him get even a short run with the world title in the right timing and with Xavier and Big E behind him. It could fly and also as far "not coming close" like that actually means anything, the winner of the womens' rumble this year got eliminated halfway through last year's.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 28, 2019 1:06:57 GMT -5
How dare you like someone! Didn't you read the OP! He said cut it out! You rebel now, but I'm still in witness protection from the time I said I didn't like Velveteen Dream. That's nothing. I'm still branded as the ultimate Daniel Bryan hater (probably). |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 28, 2019 1:07:32 GMT -5
How dare you like someone! Didn't you read the OP! He said cut it out! You rebel now, but I'm still in witness protection from the time I said I didn't like Velveteen Dream.  u bich |
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Post by Richard on Jan 28, 2019 1:08:10 GMT -5
Kofi is the perfect midcard face, never got the hype around him being a main event guy unless we're talking a short program against a heel champ. Like he would have been perfect against Punk or AJ during their heel runs.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jan 28, 2019 1:08:33 GMT -5
New Day winning MITB would be so entertaining with all the possible outcomes, and the threat of all 3 of them ganging up on someone to beat them at any given time. Do they Freebird the title, does one of them conk the other on the head and betray the group to be a solo champion, etc. MitB has had awful winners/outcomes in recent years, I wish they'd give it to New Day.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 28, 2019 1:09:54 GMT -5
Yall really shouldn't be saying "people need to stop hoping that-" after Jinder Mahal became WWE Champion. That pretty much opened any possibility of anyone becoming it in today's day and age regardless of how they do in a Rumble where they clearly weren't going to win it. The Jinder experiment failed so badly they've doubled down on keeping the titles on established main event guys. Far be it from Jinder opening the door for guys in the midcard to break through, it's been locked tighter ever since. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 1:10:39 GMT -5
Never should happen. The Orton feud way back when was his best chance to move up. The roster is simply much more stacked these days, and Kofi's as middle of the road as it gets. Personally, I think Big E and Woods have much bigger upsides, but all three have been hurt by being stuck in New Day for so long. It's hard to picture them as anything else but comedy acts. Eh, I think it'd be easy to remind the crowd of what Big E can do if they do a singles push with him. This is the same guy who Jericho tried to Codebreak, and Big E just plucked him out of the air like a hacky sack. Could see him ragdolling Bryan pretty easily. It was only for a minute but I thought Big E and Nakamura had a bit of chemistry during their back and forth, I wouldn't be surprised if Big E got a US title program for Mania. |
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jan 28, 2019 1:13:29 GMT -5
Nah, not going to stop hoping for an uber-talented dude to be booked to win the match he's most known for.
Also not buying into the "only good enough for the midcard" stuff while our reigning champ wrestles with shit psychology, spams moves and cherry-picks the most awesome workers in the company to make his matches entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 1:16:02 GMT -5
If anybody out of New Day, Big E should be the guy. Yeah, I just don't care about Xavier and Kofi as singles guys at all (no offense intended of course, I know what it's like to hope for bigger things for my faves). Big E is money, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 1:28:09 GMT -5
Yall really shouldn't be saying "people need to stop hoping that-" after Jinder Mahal became WWE Champion. That pretty much opened any possibility of anyone becoming it in today's day and age regardless of how they do in a Rumble where they clearly weren't going to win it. Exactly. Kofi's super over, moves a lot of merch, and has been a part of some incredible matches. He's consistently great. Also, I think it's important that we remember the outcomes are pre-determined, so Kofi's elimination tonight is not an actual, accurate reflection of his ability. Yeah. I think all of the "Kofi won't be champion guys, stop it" comments are only coming from people's opinions of Kofi rather than the advantages and how it would make sense. Yall really shouldn't be saying "people need to stop hoping that-" after Jinder Mahal became WWE Champion. That pretty much opened any possibility of anyone becoming it in today's day and age regardless of how they do in a Rumble where they clearly weren't going to win it. The Jinder experiment failed so badly they've doubled down on keeping the titles on established main event guys. Far be it from Jinder opening the door for guys in the midcard to break through, it's been locked tighter ever since. That's just something you've made up. We've only had Bryan, Styles, Lesnar and Roman as world champions since Jinder's reign. That doesn't mean only established main event guys will be champion, that means these guys held the belts for a reason and when they lose the belt it'll be for a reason. We know why only these 4 were champion but that doesn't take away anyone saying "well I wish (insert other guy) was champion and here's how I can see it happening."
All of the "Kofi won't be champion" comments are only coming from people who think he doesn't fit being champion and his time has passed and that's completely ignoring everything else people say as to why they want him and can see him as champion.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 28, 2019 4:43:03 GMT -5
How dare you like someone! Didn't you read the OP! He said cut it out! You rebel now, but I'm still in witness protection from the time I said I didn't like Velveteen Dream. You're still not forgiven and I'm going to continue to mail expired milk to your house. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 28, 2019 5:47:20 GMT -5
Yall really shouldn't be saying "people need to stop hoping that-" after Jinder Mahal became WWE Champion. That pretty much opened any possibility of anyone becoming it in today's day and age regardless of how they do in a Rumble where they clearly weren't going to win it. The Jinder experiment failed so badly they've doubled down on keeping the titles on established main event guys. Far be it from Jinder opening the door for guys in the midcard to break through, it's been locked tighter ever since. But the Jinder experiment was never an experiment in testing lower card dudes moving up, it was an experiment specifically to do with two things: Vince's sudden desire to give Smackdown a foreign top heel act, and their big push into India. The lesson from the Jinder experiment is more than at any time Vince can just look at someone no matter how low on the card they are or no matter how much they suck and just stick them into a huge spot out of nowhere. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Jan 28, 2019 8:24:07 GMT -5
Kofi will be a main eventer when WWE treat him like one.
Dude has all the tools. Botching the RR doesn't change that for me.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 28, 2019 8:30:13 GMT -5
The Jinder experiment failed so badly they've doubled down on keeping the titles on established main event guys. Far be it from Jinder opening the door for guys in the midcard to break through, it's been locked tighter ever since. But the Jinder experiment was never an experiment in testing lower card dudes moving up, it was an experiment specifically to do with two things: Vince's sudden desire to give Smackdown a foreign top heel act, and their big push into India. The lesson from the Jinder experiment is more than at any time Vince can just look at someone no matter how low on the card they are or no matter how much they suck and just stick them into a huge spot out of nowhere. That’s pretty much it and how it’s always been. If you tick a box Vince likes, Vince’ll push you. If you work for what Vince wants, he’ll push you. Sure there is still a hard work aspect and climbing to the top but even if you do all that, you might still get snubbed because you don’t tick a box (Hi Finn!). If WWE wants to attempt a push for China and he wants to push Xia Li to beat both sets of Four Horsewomen in one night for all the women’s belt, they all better be comfortable lying in a stack for Li to pin all of them. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 28, 2019 9:27:20 GMT -5
But the Jinder experiment was never an experiment in testing lower card dudes moving up, it was an experiment specifically to do with two things: Vince's sudden desire to give Smackdown a foreign top heel act, and their big push into India. The lesson from the Jinder experiment is more than at any time Vince can just look at someone no matter how low on the card they are or no matter how much they suck and just stick them into a huge spot out of nowhere. That’s pretty much it and how it’s always been. If you tick a box Vince likes, Vince’ll push you. If you work for what Vince wants, he’ll push you. Sure there is still a hard work aspect and climbing to the top but even if you do all that, you might still get snubbed because you don’t tick a box (Hi Finn!). If WWE wants to attempt a push for China and he wants to push Xia Li to beat both sets of Four Horsewomen in one night for all the women’s belt, they all better be comfortable lying in a stack for Li to pin all of them. WWE isn't a meritocracy it's an insane adventure through the twisted whims of a madman. At any moment a single insane fixation could see someone rocket up to the top of the card without warning. He has his ideas and pidgeonholes people into roles they can never escape from, but sometimes he'll just get an idea in his head and there's no dissuading him from it. Sometimes it means someone gets saddled with a weird new gimmick idea. Sometimes it means a job guy briefly becomes the company's top heel and then rubber bands his way back down to one-second Rumble entrance spots. Sometimes it means his son wins a tournament he wasn't in. Vince is a volatile crazy person and people would do well not to underestimate him and what he's capable of when something just pops into his head. |
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Post by Rican on Jan 28, 2019 9:30:47 GMT -5
When he got more than one save spot last night I thought they were finally gonna do it. I really wanted him vs. Bryan, The New Day are perfect targets for what Bryan is doing right now.
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Post by phen0m2112 on Jan 28, 2019 13:01:08 GMT -5
Yall really shouldn't be saying "people need to stop hoping that-" after Jinder Mahal became WWE Champion. That pretty much opened any possibility of anyone becoming it in today's day and age regardless of how they do in a Rumble where they clearly weren't going to win it. I think Jinder is the exception to the rule; trying to make inroads with a new large fanbase. Up until a few years ago, I was fully behind a Kofi title push; but I think that window has unfortunately closed. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 28, 2019 14:09:49 GMT -5
I was kinda thinking the rumble-spot jumped the shark last night.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 28, 2019 14:26:49 GMT -5
Nah, not going to stop hoping for an uber-talented dude to be booked to win the match he's most known for. Also not buying into the "only good enough for the midcard" stuff while our reigning champ wrestles with shit psychology, spams moves and cherry-picks the most awesome workers in the company to make his matches entertaining. I'd mark out like hell for for a Kofi win but if they are not gonna give us that payoff ever I'd prefer if they stopped giving us blue balls every year before jobbing him out to Local Men of the moment |
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