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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 30, 2019 22:09:06 GMT -5
I truly believe as I said in a different thread that Charlotte is there primarily to take the pin. That would be the worst case scenario, especially if Ronda is leaving. But even without a long dominant champion needs to lose the damn thing straight up. |
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Post by Doctor No on Jan 30, 2019 22:21:48 GMT -5
Doing Asuka/Charlotte 2 at Mania is a better idea with better logic.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 30, 2019 22:28:23 GMT -5
Beating a dominant champion in a one on one match always means more than winning in any multi-man cluster. WWE has almost always built itself on that principle. The money match at the end of the day is the big one on one encounter. Lest we forget the fact they just couldn't add Punk to the second Rock/Cena match, because their focus was on the Cena redemption. Or Foley being removed from the Mania 15 main event, so the focus was on Austin and Rock, despite Mankind's unfinished business with the latter.
So I don't buy into any of this thought that adding Charlotte automatically makes a Becky win mean more. It just makes things more muddled with the Charlotte narrative forced into the already hot and engaging Becky/Ronda dynamic. Sometimes it's better to just go with the hotter hand, and put other plans aside for later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 22:44:00 GMT -5
Beating a dominant champion in a one on one match always means more than winning in any multi-man cluster. WWE has almost always built itself on that principle. The money match at the end of the day is the big one on one encounter. Lest we forget the fact they just couldn't add Punk to the second Rock/Cena match, because their focus was on the Cena redemption. Or Foley being removed from the Mania 15 main event, so the focus was on Austin and Rock, despite Mankind's unfinished business with the latter.
So I don't buy into any of this thought that adding Charlotte automatically makes a Becky win mean more. It just makes things more muddled with the Charlotte narrative forced into the already hot and engaging Becky/Ronda dynamic. Sometimes it's better to just go with the hotter hand, and put other plans aside for later. It means more to the average fan. You ask the average fan about which is more impressive, beating down 1 person or beating down 2 people and they'll pick the second. Guarantee you anything that if Becky said "screw that, I'll fight you, and I'll fight you two. I'll beat both you bitches in a triple threat to get my damn title" we'll hear the crowd erupt and do a Yes chant. At the end of the day a champion saying they'll beat multiple people in a match always makes the champion look like a bigger tough guy to the average fan. This is the same audience that cheered for Charlotte destroying Ronda, the same audience that was screaming for the refs to let Charlotte and Becky fight just 1 night ago, this is the same audience that always has a reaction to a Charlotte match. The reality is that Charlotte's been mingling with these 2 women since latter 2018 and her issues still haven't been solved yet and they need to be solved with them both before Ronda takes her hiatus and before Becky heads to Raw. We can't randomly throw Charlotte against Asuka, someone who she's beaten clean, just because they gotta find Charlotte something to do compared to her trying to fix problems she's had with the 2 women who have been damaging her for these past 6 months. That doesn't help Charlotte out nor does that make any sense from a writing standpoint.
So to you, you don't have to buy into it but has a purpose. What they'll likely do is have Becky take out Charlotte and then put Ronda in her finisher and we see Charlotte clawing with her hand stretched trying to try to stop it but Ronda taps out.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 30, 2019 22:44:04 GMT -5
No Way Jose would probably kill a man for a world title shot too, but we're not gonna give him one. You're not, but I'll give him one to see Brock Lesnar plow through Jose and the entire party posse. |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 30, 2019 22:58:52 GMT -5
Beating a dominant champion in a one on one match always means more than winning in any multi-man cluster. WWE has almost always built itself on that principle. The money match at the end of the day is the big one on one encounter. Lest we forget the fact they just couldn't add Punk to the second Rock/Cena match, because their focus was on the Cena redemption. Or Foley being removed from the Mania 15 main event, so the focus was on Austin and Rock, despite Mankind's unfinished business with the latter.
So I don't buy into any of this thought that adding Charlotte automatically makes a Becky win mean more. It just makes things more muddled with the Charlotte narrative forced into the already hot and engaging Becky/Ronda dynamic. Sometimes it's better to just go with the hotter hand, and put other plans aside for later. It means more to the average fan. You ask the average fan about which is more impressive, beating down 1 person or beating down 2 people and they'll pick the second. Guarantee you anything that if Becky said "screw that, I'll fight you, and I'll fight you two. I'll beat both you bitches in a triple threat to get my damn title" we'll hear the crowd erupt and do a Yes chant. At the end of the day a champion saying they'll beat multiple people in a match always makes the champion look like a bigger tough guy to the average fan. This is the same audience that cheered for Charlotte destroying Ronda, the same audience that was screaming for the refs to let Charlotte and Becky fight just 1 night ago, this is the same audience that always has a reaction to a Charlotte match. The reality is that Charlotte's been mingling with these 2 women since latter 2018 and her issues still haven't been solved yet and they need to be solved with them both before Ronda takes her hiatus and before Becky heads to Raw. We can't randomly throw Charlotte against Asuka, someone who she's beaten clean, just because they gotta find Charlotte something to do compared to her trying to fix problems she's had with the 2 women who have been damaging her for these past 6 months. That doesn't help Charlotte out nor does that make any sense from a writing standpoint.
So to you, you don't have to buy into it but has a purpose. What they'll likely do is have Becky take out Charlotte and then put Ronda in her finisher and then as Ronda taps out we see Charlotte clawing to try to stop it but she can't stop it and then Ronda taps out.
Your thoughts on the average fan is just your own conjecture though. Plus the way you word your two options, people would choose 2 over 1 since that's the bigger number. But if you add qualitative details such as "one one one against a trained UFC veteran who is focused on beating you," or alternatively "against that same person in addition another who's fighting you both, but you only have to beat one of them" it now sounds quite a bit less impressive. Since in the latter option, you're not the sole focus of the experienced fighter, and you don't even need to necessarily beat them to win. I like Charlotte. I think she's incredibly talented. But she just doesn't belong here, and that's okay. Not everyone needs to be given superstar treatment at the same time. She played her role in helping set everything up to this point, but she's not needed from here on out. We've got the two stars in the match already, she's very much the third wheel in this situation. But this is all redundant anyway because I know she's going to be added. It's just such a bummer that they seemingly lack faith in Becky Lynch to carry a singles main event on their biggest show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:10:42 GMT -5
It means more to the average fan. You ask the average fan about which is more impressive, beating down 1 person or beating down 2 people and they'll pick the second. Guarantee you anything that if Becky said "screw that, I'll fight you, and I'll fight you two. I'll beat both you bitches in a triple threat to get my damn title" we'll hear the crowd erupt and do a Yes chant. At the end of the day a champion saying they'll beat multiple people in a match always makes the champion look like a bigger tough guy to the average fan. This is the same audience that cheered for Charlotte destroying Ronda, the same audience that was screaming for the refs to let Charlotte and Becky fight just 1 night ago, this is the same audience that always has a reaction to a Charlotte match. The reality is that Charlotte's been mingling with these 2 women since latter 2018 and her issues still haven't been solved yet and they need to be solved with them both before Ronda takes her hiatus and before Becky heads to Raw. We can't randomly throw Charlotte against Asuka, someone who she's beaten clean, just because they gotta find Charlotte something to do compared to her trying to fix problems she's had with the 2 women who have been damaging her for these past 6 months. That doesn't help Charlotte out nor does that make any sense from a writing standpoint.
So to you, you don't have to buy into it but has a purpose. What they'll likely do is have Becky take out Charlotte and then put Ronda in her finisher and then as Ronda taps out we see Charlotte clawing to try to stop it but she can't stop it and then Ronda taps out.
But if you add qualitative details such as "one one one against a trained UFC veteran who is focused on beating you," or alternatively "against that same person in addition another who's fighting you both, but you only have to beat one of them" it now sounds quite a bit less impressive. Since in the latter option, you're not the sole focus of the experienced fighter, and you don't even need to necessarily beat them to win. I like Charlotte. I think she's incredibly talented. But she just doesn't belong here, and that's okay. Not everyone needs to be given superstar treatment at the same time. She played her role in helping set everything up to this point, but she's not needed from here on out. We've got the two stars in the match already, she's very much the third wheel in this situation. But this is all redundant anyway because I know she's going to be added. It's just such a bummer that they seemingly lack faith in Becky Lynch to carry a singles main event on their biggest show. If one of my friends said "man I just got jumped by this guy but I beat him" and the other friend said "man I just got jumped by 2 guys and I beat them" then the majority of people would think the second guy is way more impressive because yeah, the number is bigger. It's more difficult to win a match with multiple people in it compared to winning a match with 1 person. These wrestlers even bring this up numerous times themselves when they're thrown into multi-man matches and they bring up their chances. Actually last night when Triple H announced the Elimination Chamber the whole point of Bryan being that upset and the fact that Triple H's words and delivery is done in a way to show that it'll be more difficult for Bryan to win the title. It's just harder to beat 2 people compared to 1 because your chances are lower. I'm not even factoring if one's a UFC fighter or not because in both of these cases whether it's a single's match or a triple threat Ronda's a UFC fight so regardless it'll be tough for Becky. It'll just be tougher since we've got Charlotte in there. I like Charlotte too but I love Becky and I think this just makes more sense. I also don't think we've got 2 stars in the match, we've got 1 mega-star which is Ronda and this match will hopefully make Becky elevate higher but it's what Meltzer said these past few weeks when talking about it. One reason they're having the triple threat is to make Becky and Charlotte and not just Becky. You're saying that not everyone needs to be given the superstar treatment at the same time but with that said is makes the most sense to make 2 people (who have stories tied into this) in comparison to 1 just because it's Becky. Charlotte for all of her accolades just isn't where she needs to be. Either way there's too many angles here.
I'd say differently if we didn't have the Charlotte/Ronda stuff from last year and if Charlotte wasn't tied up with these two. I also think that with Charlotte's in-ring style it'll add a bit of spark to the match because her style is very "big match" compared to the other 2. They can go but they can't do the flips, they don't got the hard hitting spears like Charlotte, they don't have that type of style that would really benefit this being the last match. Becky's dope and all but out of all the 4 Horsewomen her skill set's probably the most grounded. Ronda well, nah she's not Charlotte when it comes to that.
But yeah we know it'll be a triple threat. I'm just saying there's way more it being a triple threat than the "well they're only doing it because Charlotte has to have everything" narrative being thrown around. This is a lot different than Charlotte being thrown into other situations because this time it makes sense why she's thrown in here.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 30, 2019 23:15:29 GMT -5
May as well dress Charlotte up in grunge at this point.
"What about me? What about Charlotte?!"
WHAT about her, really? Why does it matter to you people so much that she just HAS to be in the Main Event at Wrestlemania? Can the other ladies on the roster not have one singles accolades that doesn't include her in it?
You want a triple threat third wheel, let it wait til Backlash. Adding her to the Ronda/Becky match muddies the waters where the two losers can claim they need individual matches to prove they were better, and doesn't resolve anything.
I'm so tired of WrestleMania no longer being the "season finale" of the WWE, and is becoming nothing more than a more expensive random PPV. Let there be some closure here for once in this company and let The Man have her moment without Charlotte hanging around for the 8th month in a f***ing row for crying out loud.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 30, 2019 23:23:42 GMT -5
The silly thing is that the end result of going after Asuka doesn't mean a whole lot less than harassing Becky. Putting Charlotte in a 3 way doesn't even help her any, but it waters down the Becky/Ronda match. It really needs to be an either/or situation. Why would Charlotte even want a 3 way anyway? She would want to find out if she can beat Rousey 1 on 1 as well, which wouldn't happen if Becky is there. So if they do another PPV match it really needs to be for a flat out #1 contender and not something to set up a 3 way. Further, if I'm Asuka I'd be a little offended by all of this given that she just tapped out Becky at the Rumble. Asuka is in that sad no man's land of being too dangerous to call out and challenge, yet it doesn't mean as much as beating Ronda.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:27:28 GMT -5
May as well dress Charlotte up in grunge at this point. "What about me? What about Charlotte?!" WHAT about her, really? Why does it matter to you people so much that she just HAS to be in the Main Event at Wrestlemania? Can the other ladies on the roster not have one singles accolades that doesn't include her in it? You want a triple threat third wheel, let it wait til Backlash. Adding her to the Ronda/Becky match muddies the waters where the two losers can claim they need individual matches to prove they were better, and doesn't resolve anything. I'm so tired of WrestleMania no longer being the "season finale" of the WWE, and is becoming nothing more than a more expensive random PPV. Let there be some closure here for once in this company and let The Man have her moment without Charlotte hanging around for the 8th month in a f***ing row for crying out loud. If you’re talking about those who’d like Charlotte in the triple threat, then it’s just a matter of opinion and preference. The goal of the triple threat is to make Becky Lynch have her moment by defeating both the girl who’s been a thorn in her side for almost a year and the girl who thinks she’s the baddest. It’s just that simple. It’s a bigger moment for Lynch and has a perfect “season finale” feel to it considering you wrap up three feuds in one match. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:30:42 GMT -5
The silly thing is that the end result of going after Asuka doesn't mean a whole lot less than harassing Becky. Putting Charlotte in a 3 way doesn't even help her any, but it waters down the Becky/Ronda match. It really needs to be an either/or situation. Why would Charlotte even want a 3 way anyway? She would want to find out if she can beat Rousey 1 on 1 as well, which wouldn't happen if Becky is there. So if they do another PPV match it really needs to be for a flat out #1 contender and not something to set up a 3 way. Further, if I'm Asuka I'd be a little offended by all of this given that she just tapped out Becky at the Rumble. Asuka is in that sad no man's land of being too dangerous to call out and challenge, yet it doesn't mean as much as beating Ronda. To me at least, it’ll arguably elevate the Becky/Ronda match. We’ve seen time and again that these three can go when it comes to singles matches, and we’ve seen that Becky/Charlotte/_______ can absolutely go in multi match scenarios. It also elevates the stakes a little bit. You’ve got the underdog who wants to prove herself, the undefeated UFC star who wants to silence the critics, and the “office” favorite that wants to make sure Becky Lynch doesn’t steal another moment from her. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:47:42 GMT -5
May as well dress Charlotte up in grunge at this point. "What about me? What about Charlotte?!" WHAT about her, really? Why does it matter to you people so much that she just HAS to be in the Main Event at Wrestlemania? Can the other ladies on the roster not have one singles accolades that doesn't include her in it? You want a triple threat third wheel, let it wait til Backlash. Adding her to the Ronda/Becky match muddies the waters where the two losers can claim they need individual matches to prove they were better, and doesn't resolve anything. I'm so tired of WrestleMania no longer being the "season finale" of the WWE, and is becoming nothing more than a more expensive random PPV. Let there be some closure here for once in this company and let The Man have her moment without Charlotte hanging around for the 8th month in a f***ing row for crying out loud. If you’re talking about those who’d like Charlotte in the triple threat, then it’s just a matter of opinion and preference. The goal of the triple threat is to make Becky Lynch have her moment by defeating both the girl who’s been a thorn in her side for almost a year and the girl who thinks she’s the baddest. It’s just that simple. It’s a bigger moment for Lynch and has a perfect “season finale” feel to it considering you wrap up three feuds in one match. Yeeeaaaahhhhhhhhh. The triple threat would actually be the season finale because it'll have solved all of the Becky/Ronda, Charlotte/Becky and Charlotte/Ronda mess. If it's just a single's match you've still got the Charlotte/Ronda stuff lying around which will probably be pushed to next year's WM for a women's title while Becky will probably doing something else at a lower position on the card compared to those 2. |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 30, 2019 23:48:15 GMT -5
Your thoughts on the average fan is just your own conjecture though. Plus the way you word your two options, people would choose 2 over 1 since that's the bigger number. But if you add qualitative details such as "one one one against a trained UFC veteran who is focused on beating you," or alternatively "against that same person in addition another who's fighting you both, but you only have to beat one of them" it now sounds quite a bit less impressive. Since in the latter option, you're not the sole focus of the experienced fighter, and you don't even need to necessarily beat them to win. I like Charlotte. I think she's incredibly talented. But she just doesn't belong here, and that's okay. Not everyone needs to be given superstar treatment at the same time. She played her role in helping set everything up to this point, but she's not needed from here on out. We've got the two stars in the match already, she's very much the third wheel in this situation. But this is all redundant anyway because I know she's going to be added. It's just such a bummer that they seemingly lack faith in Becky Lynch to carry a singles main event on their biggest show. If one of my friends said "man I just got jumped by this guy but I beat him" and the other friend said "man I just got jumped by 2 guys and I beat them" then the majority of people would think the second guy is way more impressive because yeah, the number is bigger. It's more difficult to win a match with multiple people in it compared to winning a match with 1 person. These wrestlers even bring this up numerous times themselves when they're thrown into multi-man matches and they bring up their chances. Actually last night when Triple H announced the Elimination Chamber the whole point of Bryan being that upset and the fact that Triple H's words and delivery is done in a way to show that it'll be more difficult for Bryan to win the title. It's just harder to beat 2 people compared to 1 because your chances are lower. I'm not even factoring if one's a UFC fighter or not because in both of these cases whether it's a single's match or a triple threat Ronda's a UFC fight so regardless it'll be tough for Becky. It'll just be tougher since we've got Charlotte in there. I like Charlotte too but I love Becky and I think this just makes more sense. I also don't think we've got 2 stars in the match, we've got 1 mega-star which is Ronda and this match will hopefully make Becky elevate higher but it's what Meltzer said these past few weeks when talking about it. One reason they're having the triple threat is to make Becky and Charlotte and not just Becky. You're saying that not everyone needs to be given the superstar treatment at the same time but with that said is makes the most sense to make 2 people (who have stories tied into this) in comparison to 1 just because it's Becky. Charlotte for all of her accolades just isn't where she needs to be. Either way there's too many angles here.
I'd say differently if we didn't have the Charlotte/Ronda stuff from last year and if Charlotte wasn't tied up with these two. I also think that with Charlotte's in-ring style it'll add a bit of spark to the match because her style is very "big match" compared to the other 2. They can go but they can't do the flips, they don't got the hard hitting spears like Charlotte, they don't have that type of style that would really benefit this being the last match. Becky's dope and all but out of all the 4 Horsewomen her skill set's probably the most grounded. Ronda well, nah she's not Charlotte when it comes to that.
But yeah we know it'll be a triple threat. I'm just saying there's way more it being a triple threat than the "well they're only doing it because Charlotte has to have everything" narrative being thrown around. This is a lot different than Charlotte being thrown into other situations because this time it makes sense why she's thrown in here.
Okay, but the Elimination Chamber is kayfabe impressive because you have to be the only person not beaten to win. Same thing with the Rumble. It's an endurance test, while also dealing with potential handicaps working against your favour. But again that's not the case with your average WWE triple threat match. I don't think fans are quite as sold on the idea of these matches as much as you believe they are. Case in point, remember years ago WWE had a Fatal Four Way PPV, and in their usual hamfisted nature of storytelling, had every title change hands to try and sell how stacked the odds were against the champs. But the event ended up having such a dismal buyrate that they never went back to it again. Another example of a PPV under performing with a multi-man main event was Survivor Series 2009, with Cena/Trips/HBK headlining, which suffered a 30% drop from the year prior. A number so bad that Vince McMahon admitted on the following quarterly conference call that they were considering scrapping the PPV all together. Also it's important to consider how often WWE successful at making one star, let alone two at the same time. Charlotte has been pushed super hard ever since she came onto the main roster, and she's still less popular than a some of her peers. If she's not a made star now, even after winning the both titles numerous times, beating Asuka, and main eventing multiple PPV's, what's to say this would suddenly make her one? It's the same story as the never ending Roman Reigns push, it was always just one more thing to make him. Maybe she's just not the star they think she is. Becky is basically there now, she's super popular now. They need to strike while the iron is still hot. Ronda is the mainstream draw, she's the perfect foil for Becky's character. Meanwhile Charlotte is... still Charlotte. I guess she's got stories with them... That's nice for her... Don't know why they can't wait... Oh well. *shrug* |
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Post by stevec484 on Jan 30, 2019 23:55:40 GMT -5
If you’re talking about those who’d like Charlotte in the triple threat, then it’s just a matter of opinion and preference. The goal of the triple threat is to make Becky Lynch have her moment by defeating both the girl who’s been a thorn in her side for almost a year and the girl who thinks she’s the baddest. It’s just that simple. It’s a bigger moment for Lynch and has a perfect “season finale” feel to it considering you wrap up three feuds in one match. Yeeeaaaahhhhhhhhh. The triple threat would actually be the season finale because it'll have solved all of the Becky/Ronda, Charlotte/Becky and Charlotte/Ronda mess. If it's just a single's match you've still got the Charlotte/Ronda stuff lying around which will probably be pushed to next year's WM for a women's title while Becky will probably doing something else at a lower position on the card compared to those 2. They can do Ronda vs Charlotte 2 on one of the two PPVs before Wrestlemania and Becky vs Charlotte should be over already. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 0:02:13 GMT -5
Okay, but the Elimination Chamber is kayfabe impressive because you have to be the only person not beaten to win. Same thing with the Rumble. It's an endurance test, while also dealing with potential handicaps working against your favour. But again that's not the case with your average WWE triple threat match. I don't think fans are quite as sold on the idea of these matches as much as you believe they are. Case in point, remember years ago WWE had a Fatal Four Way PPV, and in their usual hamfisted nature of storytelling, had every title change hands to try and sell how stacked the odds were against the champs. But the event ended up having such a dismal buyrate that they never went back to it again. Another example of a PPV under performing with a multi-man main event was Survivor Series 2009, with Cena/Trips/HBK headlining, which suffered a 30% drop from the year prior. A number so bad that Vince McMahon admitted on the following quarterly conference call that they were considering scrapping the PPV all together. Also it's important to consider how often WWE successful at making one star, let alone two at the same time. Charlotte has been pushed super hard ever since she came onto the main roster, and she's still less popular than a some of her peers. If she's not a made star now, even after winning the both titles numerous times, beating Asuka, and main eventing multiple PPV's, what's to say this would suddenly make her one? It's the same story as the never ending Roman Reigns push, it was always just one more thing to make him. Maybe she's just not the star they think she is. Becky is basically there now, she's super popular now. They need to strike while the iron is still hot. Ronda is the mainstream draw, she's the perfect foil for Becky's character. Meanwhile Charlotte is... still Charlotte. I guess she's got stories with them... That's nice for her... Don't know why they can't wait... Oh well. *shrug*
Still it's a test at the end of the day and the winner's seen as the best at that moment and time regardless of the circumstances. No matter what the company tries to hide from us when we see those wins and losses they do matter otherwise we wouldn't be calling Joe a bitch on the forum. I've seen previous triple threats but something that sticks out is Vince. Like you said, he thought about considering scrapping that ppv but what we also know is that Vince hates triple threats. The fact that a man who hates triple threats is going to put on another triple threat ahead of schedule to main event a WM says something, it's for a reason and I don't think it's due to the love of Charlotte. I don't think this is hamfisted storytelling either given Charlotte's last 6 months have been filled with these 2 women and we gotta get her storyline done with them and the same with having their storylines done with her. Hypothetically say they do have a single's match and Charlotte isn't included and then Ronda takes off. If that happens then we'd probably see Charlotte/Ronda at WM36 for a world title and that'll probably be on a higher position than Becky purely based off the fact that we didn't finish the Charlotte/Ronda stuff. Because they've spent so many months on Charlotte/Ronda they have to get it out of the way otherwise it'll always be looming around like the Lesnar/Reigns stuff that we never got finished with.
I don't think WWE is successful at making stars at all. I think the fact they want to try to do it is the first step though so that's good. Charlotte will be made purely by being in the match given she's sorta 3/4ths the way there. Becky will be made by winning the match, that's all Becky needs to be a star and regardless she'll be it whether it's a single's or triple threat. Ronda's a star already but either way Charlotte will be a star just by being there. I don't think Charlotte's accolades made her a star previously because at the end of the day she wasn't in the right position. Yeah she won the matches but at the end of the day it's just another notch to her name to something that most won't see or care about. Nobody remembers the amount of titles and firsts because those aren't what makes stars, how they're won is what makes stars. The triple threat though is the main event of WM with Ronda Rousey, that's got way more mainstream presence to it compared to everything else she's gained. Charlotte isn't a star because she's not capable of being a star. Charlotte isn't a star yet because they gave her trophies without giving her a trophy case so that visits can see the trophies she's won.
It's like I said in another thread about the shit sandwiches. Say Charlotte was given 5 shit sandwiches and those are her accolades, say Becky's given 1 Pizza Hut full pizza. Charlotte even though she's got those sandwiches shouldn't say "well I've got these, I'm ok", she should say "no, give me one of those because I can't eat this." You said it yourself that she's only at that current level and that's mostly due to the accolades rather than the actual placement where it would matter which is what'll happen at this year's WM. She's also elevated to another level last year with that Ronda and TLC match. I'll actually say from an in-ring standpoint Charlotte this past year has continued to evolve and hit another gear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 0:03:04 GMT -5
Yeeeaaaahhhhhhhhh. The triple threat would actually be the season finale because it'll have solved all of the Becky/Ronda, Charlotte/Becky and Charlotte/Ronda mess. If it's just a single's match you've still got the Charlotte/Ronda stuff lying around which will probably be pushed to next year's WM for a women's title while Becky will probably doing something else at a lower position on the card compared to those 2. They can do Ronda vs Charlotte 2 on one of the two PPVs before Wrestlemania and Becky vs Charlotte should be over already. But then you’d have people criticizing the match due to Becky not interfering until after the match, if at all as logically you’d need a clean winner at that point. Also, the crowd is still red hot when these two interact with one another, like the Cena/Punk of the women’s division, as seen by Tuesday’s confrontation. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 31, 2019 0:04:41 GMT -5
A Mania main event should be about the “A” story(Becky/Ronda), “B” stories(Charlotte’s) are for follow up PPVs. This logic for adding Charlotte would’ve had Triple H in a 3way with Austin/Rock at 17 and I’ve never heard anybody make that case before. That’s because Triple H was a “B” story(or number 3) to Austin/Rock’s “A” story. Yeaaaah... I’m torn about all this but after watching the RAW segment I keep thinking back to WMX7. I was PISSED we didn’t get that triple threat at survivor series but adding trips to that match would of been a disservice to Austin & Rock who were completely and utterly both at their peak. That’s what Ronda & Becky feels like: Ronda, the former UFC star who made her debut and proved all the naysayers wrong and has been dominant. And Becky who has risen through the ranks and gone from mid card female act to the most popular member of the entire roster. Their match thwarted once due to real life, and now, they meet at the grandest stage of them all. That’s. A. Great. f***ing. Story. And most of it happened serendipitously. And then ya throw in charlotte because..reasons that I get, but still. I think it’s a disservice to those two girls. It’ll feel less special. But eh, they have two lifers in the first female WM main event, so cool, I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 0:04:50 GMT -5
Yeeeaaaahhhhhhhhh. The triple threat would actually be the season finale because it'll have solved all of the Becky/Ronda, Charlotte/Becky and Charlotte/Ronda mess. If it's just a single's match you've still got the Charlotte/Ronda stuff lying around which will probably be pushed to next year's WM for a women's title while Becky will probably doing something else at a lower position on the card compared to those 2. They can do Ronda vs Charlotte 2 on one of the two PPVs before Wrestlemania and Becky vs Charlotte should be over already. It's not going to happen because not only are they on different brands but apparently they're already setting up Becky/Charlotte for the next ppv which is Elimination Chamber and also locally they're advertising Becky/Charlotte for FastLane as well. |
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 31, 2019 0:18:12 GMT -5
Charlotte trying to be involved into Becky/Ronnie ME is great for the storyline,but WWE actually shoehorning her in the ME with Becky/Ronnie is awful. Not being in the ME as a competitor is actually better for her charecter as well,it only will drive The Queen madder to play 2nd fiddle to The Man and Ronnie
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 0:21:30 GMT -5
Honestly this company's also heard no negative response towards this from the fans. I see a lot of comments on people's opinion of Charlotte, Becky and their opinion of the story but judging the actual audiences these past 6 months nobody's against Becky and Charlotte throwing down, Charlotte beating up Ronda and of course Becky putting the paws on Ronda. In the company's eyes there's nothing that actually makes them think "wow this won't be a great idea." If anything judging the fact that responses are getting louder for Charlotte interacting with these two it's just more reassurance.
Rather than this being a "Daniel Bryan isn't champion, we want him to be champion so we'll rebel" thing or even a "ok we don't like Brock anymore, please let someone take the belt" thing or even a "we don't like Reigns thing" this feels like a "damn New Day and Usos keep on doing the same stuff" thing. Yeah, they're saying the same jokes, in the same spots but the crowd loves it. Some others don't though.
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