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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:00:20 GMT -5
This is a very minor nitpick, but I felt like it needed to be addressed.
Ever since moving to Raw, something about the Riott Squad has just diminished. Now, I could be mistaken, but I swear they weren’t booked this weak on SDL. I vaguely remember them being booked somewhat competently until the switch to Raw. Then they just sort of became the polar opposite of the shield.
Where they excel in booking them as a tight knit family who’ll never break apart, they sort of fumble it by making them walking Ls. For example, I get taking a quick loss to Ronda won’t hurt Liv in the long run, but this is the 2nd or so time she’s been booked in Dana Brooke levels of sorry. The poor chick can’t even get a single ounce of screentime as it is (and hopefully it’ll change due to tag titles) but, to have her be the weak link is eh. At least Dean had the US belt to keep his head above water.
What I’m saying give them a W, for once WWE? Pls? I liked tonight’s Raw if that helps! Aside from the Elias mess, but still!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 4, 2019 23:02:21 GMT -5
This is what happens they don’t have Becky Lynch to kick around for weeks on end anymore. Because that WAS most of their SmackDown run.
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Post by Shark on Feb 4, 2019 23:02:52 GMT -5
Ruby has been the only one who consistently got wins since they moved to Raw. Even in tag matches, I think she was the one who would get the pin. Until Natalya at TLC, Ruby was fairly well protected. Sarah and Liv are the ones who always take the losses and they win very very rarely.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:04:30 GMT -5
I mean, I can't remember them ever being anything but pathetic losers on SmackDown either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:06:18 GMT -5
They haven't done shit lately, but their Raw run has been better. They've at least looked like threats a couple times. On SDL the only thing they really did was MAKE BECKY CRY in their debut.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:07:15 GMT -5
Initially it did seem like the Riott Squad was on the way up after moving to Raw. They found an identity, started to gel, for better as a unit. Then they jobbed approximately 150 times to combinations of Ronda, the Bellas, and Natalya, and now they’re looking bad again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:08:51 GMT -5
Ruby has been the only one who consistently got wins since they moved to Raw. Even in tag matches, I think she was the one who would get the pin. Until Natalya at TLC, Ruby was fairly well protected. Sarah and Liv are the ones who always take the losses and they win very very rarely. It’s understandable why they tend to go with and choose to highlight Ruby as she’s the more polished of the three, but I remember it became a point to where the other two were just stuck standing there and doing the occasional punch. I really do hope all three get elevated at some point as I feel like they’re a damn good group and clearly show a passion for improving.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:09:35 GMT -5
on the positive side they’ve made multiple messes since moving to raw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:09:57 GMT -5
Initially it did seem like the Riott Squad was on the way up after moving to Raw. They found an identity, started to gel, for better as a unit. Then they jobbed approximately 150 times to combinations of Ronda, the Bellas, and Natalya, and now they’re looking bad again. I think that’s what irks me the most. They went from challenging the SDL women’s championship, to moving to Raw, to being somewhat built up, to just doing nothing but jobs left and right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:11:17 GMT -5
I mean, I can't remember them ever being anything but pathetic losers on SmackDown either. Yeah, I’m probably remembering their SDL run all wrong, honestly. I do remember they were essentially Charlotte’s bitches and just there until they moved to Raw, became Ronda’s bitches and were just sort of there until the tag titles (god willing.)
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 4, 2019 23:12:18 GMT -5
Between her awful Rumble showing and the fact that she seems to be the one that always gets pinned they really don't seem to like Liv at all which is too bad because I think there is some potential there. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of backstage attitude issue there. Logan isn't booked well either but is at least made to look more competent then Liv who is almost treated as someone who doesn't even belong on the roster.
Ruby has always been treated fine so there's really no problem there. It looks like she's probably going to challenge Ronda at Elimination Chamber which would be the second year in a row she would challenge for a title a February PPV. Yeah she didn't win last year and she won't win this year but it's still not a bad spot by any means as a lot women on the roster have never got a one on one PPV title match yet alone two. At this point I think they should just split them up and just push Ronda as a singles since she's the only one they care about anyways. They have no credibility at all anymore (not that they had much to begin with) as a group.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 4, 2019 23:14:53 GMT -5
Being the jobbers to the “stars/part-timers”(and having to feud with Nattie) is not a momentum gainer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:17:55 GMT -5
Between her awful Rumble showing and the fact that she seems to be the one that always gets pinned they really don't seem to like Liv at all which is too bad because I think there is some potential there. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of backstage attitude issue there. Logan isn't booked well either but is at least made to look more competent then Liv who is almost treated as someone who doesn't even belong on the roster. Ruby has always been treated fine so there's really no problem there. It looks like she's probably going to challenge Ronda at Elimination Chamber which would be the second year in a row she would challenge for a title a February PPV. Yeah she didn't win last year and she won't win this year but it's still not a bad spot by any means as a lot women on the roster have never got a one on one PPV title match yet alone two. At this point I think they should just split them up and just push Ronda as a singles since she's the only one they care about anyways. They have no credibility at all anymore (not that they had much to begin with) as a group. Ah yes the coveted spot held by Tamina multiple times and Cameron once.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:18:19 GMT -5
Initially it did seem like the Riott Squad was on the way up after moving to Raw. They found an identity, started to gel, for better as a unit. Then they jobbed approximately 150 times to combinations of Ronda, the Bellas, and Natalya, and now they’re looking bad again. I think that’s what irks me the most. They went from challenging the SDL women’s championship, to moving to Raw, to being somewhat built up, to just doing nothing but jobs left and right. For awhile it seemed like Ruby would get a shot at Ronda at one of the lesser ppv’s as she kept winning then Anvil died and WWE couldn’t help but exploit his death and usually whenever they exploit a death they give the babyface a win at the end so they can explain away that exploitation so it was really bad timing for Ruby.Plus Ronda wanting to leave seems to have sped a lot of her stuff up as they changed their mind on Nattie turning and feuding with her after Anvil’s death and stopped giving Ruby a push.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:21:09 GMT -5
Between her awful Rumble showing and the fact that she seems to be the one that always gets pinned they really don't seem to like Liv at all which is too bad because I think there is some potential there. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of backstage attitude issue there. Logan isn't booked well either but is at least made to look more competent then Liv who is almost treated as someone who doesn't even belong on the roster. Ruby has always been treated fine so there's really no problem there. It looks like she's probably going to challenge Ronda at Elimination Chamber which would be the second year in a row she would challenge for a title a February PPV. Yeah she didn't win last year and she won't win this year but it's still not a bad spot by any means as a lot women on the roster have never got a one on one PPV title match yet alone two. At this point I think they should just split them up and just push Ronda as a singles since she's the only one they care about anyways. They have no credibility at all anymore (not that they had much to begin with) as a group. I don’t necessarily see their treatment of Liv as some sort of punishment, they just see Liv as the weaker of the three as Sarah is the powerhouse and Ruby is the all arounder. I do find it a disservice as she isn’t exactly going to improve in the ring by continuing to give her very little to no ring time. That’s the opposite of what you should be doing, especially since she shows a love for wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:24:04 GMT -5
I think that’s what irks me the most. They went from challenging the SDL women’s championship, to moving to Raw, to being somewhat built up, to just doing nothing but jobs left and right. For awhile it seemed like Ruby would get a shot at Ronda at one of the lesser ppv’s as she kept winning then Anvil died and WWE couldn’t help but exploit his death and usually whenever they exploit a death they give the babyface a win at the end so they can explain away that exploitation so it was really bad timing for Ruby.Plus Ronda wanting to leave seems to have sped a lot of her stuff up as they changed their mind on Nattie turning and feuding with her after Anvil’s death and stopped giving Ruby a push. Yeah, as a partial fan, it’s a bit frustrating to see this group who have learned to gel well together do nothing but lose and lose and lose.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 4, 2019 23:25:50 GMT -5
Between her awful Rumble showing and the fact that she seems to be the one that always gets pinned they really don't seem to like Liv at all which is too bad because I think there is some potential there. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of backstage attitude issue there. Logan isn't booked well either but is at least made to look more competent then Liv who is almost treated as someone who doesn't even belong on the roster. Ruby has always been treated fine so there's really no problem there. It looks like she's probably going to challenge Ronda at Elimination Chamber which would be the second year in a row she would challenge for a title a February PPV. Yeah she didn't win last year and she won't win this year but it's still not a bad spot by any means as a lot women on the roster have never got a one on one PPV title match yet alone two. At this point I think they should just split them up and just push Ronda as a singles since she's the only one they care about anyways. They have no credibility at all anymore (not that they had much to begin with) as a group. Ah yes the coveted spot held by Tamina multiple times and Cameron once. I should've clarified more and said in the last couple of years when the women's division started to get more focus and more talented. Yeah up until 2015 it wouldn't be a coveted spot but today it's a pretty good sign of faith I would say. Today there's no way someone like a Tamina or a Cameron would get a title shot on PPV. Even back then Cameron only got that spot as a sub for Naomi who was injured.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Feb 4, 2019 23:31:00 GMT -5
I prefer The L Word myself
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 23:34:25 GMT -5
For awhile it seemed like Ruby would get a shot at Ronda at one of the lesser ppv’s as she kept winning then Anvil died and WWE couldn’t help but exploit his death and usually whenever they exploit a death they give the babyface a win at the end so they can explain away that exploitation so it was really bad timing for Ruby.Plus Ronda wanting to leave seems to have sped a lot of her stuff up as they changed their mind on Nattie turning and feuding with her after Anvil’s death and stopped giving Ruby a push. Yeah, as a partial fan, it’s a bit frustrating to see this group who have learned to gel well together do nothing but lose and lose and lose. I like the Riott Squad but this is a problem about wwe not having a clue how to book divisons and on Raw it’s all about Ronda and to a much lesser extent Nia and everyone else is just their to job.Their gonna crown women’s tag champs in a few weeks and their only teams that really have chemistry and feel like a team are the Riott Squad and The IIconics and neither of those teams have any momentum through booking which is a shame and we’ve known about this women’s tag division for a longtime now and they haven’t really done anything to build it up instead they’ll have a match crown champs and say its HISTORIC which is way lesser effective than building some teams up.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 4, 2019 23:52:29 GMT -5
Between her awful Rumble showing and the fact that she seems to be the one that always gets pinned they really don't seem to like Liv at all which is too bad because I think there is some potential there. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of backstage attitude issue there. Logan isn't booked well either but is at least made to look more competent then Liv who is almost treated as someone who doesn't even belong on the roster. Ruby has always been treated fine so there's really no problem there. It looks like she's probably going to challenge Ronda at Elimination Chamber which would be the second year in a row she would challenge for a title a February PPV. Yeah she didn't win last year and she won't win this year but it's still not a bad spot by any means as a lot women on the roster have never got a one on one PPV title match yet alone two. At this point I think they should just split them up and just push Ronda as a singles since she's the only one they care about anyways. They have no credibility at all anymore (not that they had much to begin with) as a group. I don’t necessarily see their treatment of Liv as some sort of punishment, they just see Liv as the weaker of the three as Sarah is the powerhouse and Ruby is the all arounder. I do find it a disservice as she isn’t exactly going to improve in the ring by continuing to give her very little to no ring time. That’s the opposite of what you should be doing, especially since she shows a love for wrestling. Yeah I guess I could be looking too much into it. Ruby is the leader so protecting her makes sense and Sarah is supposed to be the badass I guess so they probably don't to make her look like a complete goober so Liv being the fall girl merely by default makes sense. It's just that her booking to me comes of like "Burial" booking (super quick Rumble elimination, pinned by Bayley in like 6 seconds in that gauntlet match several months back) which usually stems from backstage heat.
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