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Post by dirtyoldman on Feb 5, 2019 8:51:04 GMT -5
Been on an OSW buzz recenlty and really enjoying it. They really don't like Hogan lol
Anyway, I completly forgot about Bam Bam Bigelow's heroic face run in the main event where he was up against 3 men on his own and took two down before losing to Andre. Then Hogan comes down and chases Andre away and poses and dances to close the show (he didnt even bring Bigelow into the ring for a little bit of audience praise).
Then everyone knows about Wrestlemania IX. At least he did win a match as well as the title and there was always a small feeling that a Hogan/Hart match could be down the line (it wasn't).
Basically which man would look and feel most sh1t afterwards?
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Post by chronocross on Feb 5, 2019 9:13:51 GMT -5
I don’t think either were to be honest.
In the case of Bam Bam, it’s not like he was screwed or anything he fought as long as he could and beat two upper card heels in OMG and Bundy before getting smashed by Andre. I don’t think it would’ve looked good if Bam Bam just climbed back in there after being defeated. Still I think makes Hulk look like a sore loser and of course Hulk most pose. He was still in tag matches with Hulk going into 88 vs DiBiase/Andre so I don’t think he did too badly for himself.
As for Hogan at WM9, in storyline he had the blessing of Bret to go challenge Yoko that night at WM9, not a fan of him not defending the belt until KOTR but I liked the win and Bret had a gripe as he was screwed by Yoko/Fuji.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 5, 2019 9:19:31 GMT -5
I'd go with Bam Bam.
At least with Bret, Hogan came out, ostensibly to help Bret up and only got in the ring when Bret said it was ok.
Did he even acknowledge Bam Bam? He could have helped him up and into the ring for a pose, but it was like the guy eased to exist.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 5, 2019 9:54:28 GMT -5
I didn't think anything at the time and I don't know. I'm glad I didn't have access to dirt sheets etc when I was growing up. I didn't even think about what wrestlers did outside the ring and backstage. That was the charm of it for me then and now.
Hogan hate seems to be a fairly new phenomenon, and I don't think there's any in between. You either hate him or you're a mark.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 5, 2019 10:08:04 GMT -5
I didn't think anything at the time and I don't know. I'm glad I didn't have access to dirt sheets etc when I was growing up. I didn't even think about what wrestlers did outside the ring and backstage. That was the charm of it for me then and now. Hogan hate seems to be a fairly new phenomenon, and I don't think there's any in between. You either hate him or you're a mark. I don't know about "new". I mean the crowds in WCW never really warmed to him, and the internet's been a "thing" in wrestling for about 20 years, there's been longer between 1999 and now than there was between him winning the belt in 1984 and 1999. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 10:23:41 GMT -5
Hogan had no business winning the title at WM9.
It would be like Seth failing to beat Brock and Cena randomly coming out and squashing him to win the title at the end.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Feb 5, 2019 13:10:05 GMT -5
Hogan had no business winning the title at WM9. It would be like Seth failing to beat Brock and Cena randomly coming out and squashing him to win the title at the end. I feel the same way. Hogan’s win made Bret and his title reign feel like an afterthought. Bret lost to Yokozuna in the main event of Mania but don’t worry Hogan won the belt back and he’s you’re champion now! Ugh. No thanks. |
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Post by Brian Suntan on Feb 5, 2019 13:36:51 GMT -5
I never really got the hate for Hogan beating Yoko. It's not like he wasn't still massively over. The place goes insane when he wins.
It's not unlike Rollins cashing in MITB.
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Post by efarns on Feb 5, 2019 17:47:20 GMT -5
They both made lots of money and had great spots in the business long afterwards. Neither one
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Post by abjordans on Feb 5, 2019 19:34:38 GMT -5
Bret Hart was made a bigger star from the Hogan thing, it was almost like Bryan after the 18 seconds. Bigelow wasn’t who the people paid to see in 87. Hogan must pose.
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Post by Starshine on Feb 5, 2019 19:53:37 GMT -5
"So here's the plan Bret, Yokozuna is basically going to shrug off all your signature spots, but then when you finally get him in the Sharpshooter, Mr. Fuji throws salt in your eyes and Yoko pins you for the belt. Then Hogan comes out and is all like "hey, what's going on here, brotha?" And Fuji will suddenly challenge Hulk to wrestle for the belt, and you'll be all like "go get him, dude." So then Hogan wins the belt in around 8 seconds or so, and we close the show there."
How is that not the most absurd thing ever?
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 5, 2019 20:19:08 GMT -5
"So here's the plan Bret, Yokozuna is basically going to shrug off all your signature spots, but then when you finally get him in the Sharpshooter, Mr. Fuji throws salt in your eyes and Yoko pins you for the belt. Then Hogan comes out and is all like "hey, what's going on here, brotha?" And Fuji will suddenly challenge Hulk to wrestle for the belt, and you'll be all like "go get him, dude." So then Hogan wins the belt in around 8 seconds or so, and we close the show there." How is that not the most absurd thing ever? Bret softened up Yoko for Hulk, it works. Still, was disappointing, as I thought the Hogan-era was over. |
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Feb 5, 2019 20:49:53 GMT -5
Fuji looked the dumbest out of everyone involved, agreeing to give a fresh Hogan a title shot on his already worn down Yokozuna
Yoko should have IMMEDIATELY fired him
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 6, 2019 14:43:17 GMT -5
I didn't think anything at the time and I don't know. I'm glad I didn't have access to dirt sheets etc when I was growing up. I didn't even think about what wrestlers did outside the ring and backstage. That was the charm of it for me then and now. Hogan hate seems to be a fairly new phenomenon, and I don't think there's any in between. You either hate him or you're a mark.
Hogan sure did have access and made a f***ing segment out of it to start World War 3
The hate def isn't "new"
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Feb 6, 2019 14:59:54 GMT -5
I didn't think anything at the time and I don't know. I'm glad I didn't have access to dirt sheets etc when I was growing up. I didn't even think about what wrestlers did outside the ring and backstage. That was the charm of it for me then and now. Hogan hate seems to be a fairly new phenomenon, and I don't think there's any in between. You either hate him or you're a mark. Hogan sure did have access and made a f***ing segment out of it to start World War 3
The hate def isn't "new"
Talk to 1980’s smart fans: that crowd had no love for Hogan or the WWF. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 6, 2019 16:04:38 GMT -5
Bigelow was bad but Hogan did Bret Hart dirty in a way he only ever did one more time in his career (Sting).
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Feb 6, 2019 16:22:40 GMT -5
Bret actually looked pretty strong in his match against Yoko. They played up on Bret having to wrestle smart and he did just that, tying Yoko’s legs in the ropes to get him down and using his speed. Then this giant who had barely been off his feet in the past six months needed his Manager to cheat to get a win.
Hogan’s win pushed a lot of sympathy onto Bret who had a genuine gripe about the whole series of events. Bret then had a strong year, culminating in his title win at what was pimped as one of the biggest shows ever. And where was Hogan? Filming Thunder in Paradise.
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 6, 2019 16:26:58 GMT -5
I'd say Bam Bam got the worse treatment here. His effort at the end of Survivor Series could have made him the No. 2 babyface and even set him up in the Savage spot to feud with DiBiase and Andre the following year when Hogan was gone (assuming Savage had stayed in the IC scene). But the spotlight immediately reverted back to Hogan, and everyone sort of forgot what he'd done. By WM4, he felt like just another guy in the tournament field.
Sure, Bret was made to look like shit that night at WM9 to create a Hogan moment, but Bret was very clearly still a big deal afterward, and they made sure you knew that (building the KOTR PPV around him, for instance).
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 6, 2019 17:04:03 GMT -5
I would say Bret considering he still seems to take it very personally.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 6, 2019 21:20:44 GMT -5
Bam Bam in his first run was his own worst enemy. According to Bret, he alienated the locker room by bragging about his paychecks, and it took Andre stiffing him in the ring to pipe down. Regardless of Hogan, Bigelow didn’t seem to have many friends at that time.
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