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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 7, 2019 16:22:49 GMT -5
HHH-Booker T. Layed on the racist overtones super thick, then gave the racist the win in a way that made his opponent look weak af.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 7, 2019 16:45:52 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but seeing the Piggie James angle on TV actually sunk my anorexia to the lowest point it's ever been.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Feb 7, 2019 17:06:59 GMT -5
Lori Fullington when she went full blown crack whore character. When was this? I'm assuming it happened in ECW, but I have no recollection
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Post by TGM on Feb 7, 2019 17:38:33 GMT -5
Children being used in angles.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 7, 2019 17:41:42 GMT -5
Shane Douglas shaking Gary Wolfe (Pitbull #1) around by the protective halo. I still find that uncomfortable to watch.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 7, 2019 17:42:59 GMT -5
I'll name ones I actually remember watching live(I stopped watching from 03 to 06 so I missed alot of tasteless RA era garbage, and I'm too young to remember the first half of the Attitude Era) When CM Punk was still getting cheered when he was heel and they had him doing tasteless stuff to get cheap heat. First mocking Jerry Lawler's heart attack. I'm sure Jerry was cool with it, but him coming back was a legit happy moment and I didn't think they needed to go there. Then all the stuff after Paul Bearer passed. Oof. Another one even though I'm sure it was probably not that crazy looking in hindsight, Rated RKO dragging a bloody Ric Flair from backstage sorta bugged a 10 year old me. Same reasons as the OP, felt like they were beating up on someone's grandpa to me. This is an odd one, but I remember someone using a crossface in WWE a few months after Benoit died, and it felt really awkward. A few years later seeing the move wasn't a big deal to me, but it felt very soon in 2007. I guess getting the hold unassociated with his name had to happen at some point. Now as for going back and watching things? I can handle most of the famously bad stuff like Katie Vick and Val Venis almost getting his little friend chopped off. But there's some random small things that bug me. Pretty anything that invokes reminders of real life deaths is hard to watch. Like I'm a sucker for Royal Rumbles and I very frequently go back to watch them, but I couldn't keep watching the 2000 Rumble because there's a huge succession of both recently and long-since deceased wrestlers entering, several of them in a row. And it wasn't even 20 years ago. I think it affects me more than all the 80s and early 90s cards do because these are the guys I watched when I first started watching wrestling as a child, so it's a huge buzzkill. And a last somewhat similar one, watching alot of the really dark storylines in 1999 is kinda hard knowing someone actually died in the ring right in the middle of this time period. All the Ministry stuff, caskets, etc. They even showed a replay of a casket match at Over The Edge! Like damn... For some reason my brain just subconsciously goes there when I'm watching this period. Speaking of Flair, A year before that HHH turned on Flair after a tag win and I felt that beat down was worst. He nailed him with the sledgehammer, blooded him badly, but just keep beating on him from the ring to the back. Ending with him getting thrown in the back of a limo. I always found any angle that involve hinting of rape/ forced sex always bad. Example like Kane and Lita. Pillman and Terri which what made it worst Pillman was known to be married and Terri at the time was. Yet they where doing those segments. Later original ECW it was hard to watch Rhino against any woman because it looked so unprotected. See him piledrive the Sandman wife throw a table on the floor after goring her throw a table is just wow.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 7, 2019 17:55:44 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but seeing the Piggie James angle on TV actually sunk my anorexia to the lowest point it's ever been. Well, shit, I'm never defending that angle again.
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Post by Guacamole Anderson on Feb 7, 2019 18:48:56 GMT -5
We'd visit my grandparents on the Gulf Coast when I was a kid, and watch Continental Wrestling while we were there. It's where we heard the words "I'd like to talk to Tom."
(Google it.)
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Feb 7, 2019 18:48:57 GMT -5
HHH-Booker T. Layed on the racist overtones super thick, then gave the racist the win in a way that made his opponent look weak af. In hindsight, it should've been a sign Hunter's winning when they back-pedalled fierce on the race stuff in the week leading up to WM19.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 7, 2019 19:13:51 GMT -5
HHH-Booker T. Layed on the racist overtones super thick, then gave the racist the win in a way that made his opponent look weak af. I may have been reading too much into it, but Ted DiBiase purchasing Sapphire seemed racist. He was obviously talking about purchasing her loyalty, but the fact that he had Virgil who he mistreated made this cringy. And he also won that feud with Dusty.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 7, 2019 19:43:20 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but seeing the Piggie James angle on TV actually sunk my anorexia to the lowest point it's ever been. Well, shit, I'm never defending that angle again. Especially these days, but yes, female bodyshaming angles. see also: Holly, Molly. Say what you will about Nia Jax, but be lucky they have yet to make her into the Daughter of Bertha Faye. For now. Or a knockoff of a typical Melissa McCarthy character (which in itself shows how out of touch today's society is in marketing women of size, to a degree. Though part of it is MM's own output and I think she just doesn't take the role as seriously as we do. From what I read, to her size isn't even a thing)
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 7, 2019 19:44:39 GMT -5
Lori Fullington when she went full blown crack whore character. When was this? I'm assuming it happened in ECW, but I have no recollection It was like the second half of the "Raven brainwashes Tyler" angle in 1996-97. All of a sudden they had her act like a complete heroin junkie, complete with mannerisms and voice inflections. Made up circles under the eyes too. I felt funny watching her segments, it was grating to me generally. Kinda like when I'd automatically FFWD any Fonzie interviews from the same time period (and it's on topic as it bothered me...not in an offensive way, just an "I can't listen to this" way)
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 7, 2019 20:29:39 GMT -5
Well, shit, I'm never defending that angle again. Especially these days, but yes, female bodyshaming angles. see also: Holly, Molly. Say what you will about Nia Jax, but be lucky they have yet to make her into the Daughter of Bertha Faye. For now. Or a knockoff of a typical Melissa McCarthy character (which in itself shows how out of touch today's society is in marketing women of size, to a degree. Though part of it is MM's own output and I think she just doesn't take the role as seriously as we do. From what I read, to her size isn't even a thing) To be honest, I never minded it at the time because Michelle was the heel and she eventually jobbed to Mickie in seconds. The above story about the effect it had changes my mind completely.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 7, 2019 21:04:11 GMT -5
Especially these days, but yes, female bodyshaming angles. see also: Holly, Molly. Say what you will about Nia Jax, but be lucky they have yet to make her into the Daughter of Bertha Faye. For now. Or a knockoff of a typical Melissa McCarthy character (which in itself shows how out of touch today's society is in marketing women of size, to a degree. Though part of it is MM's own output and I think she just doesn't take the role as seriously as we do. From what I read, to her size isn't even a thing) To be honest, I never minded it at the time because Michelle was the heel and she eventually jobbed to Mickie in seconds. The above story about the effect it had changes my mind completely. To that end, yes, the Molly version was dumber cause Trish was supposed to be the face. And she was clearly lying/overexaggerating. I am with you on why it bothered you more, after reading the other posts. What's sad is, like I said, women of a certain size are still not being accepted today, not totally. With all the PC complaints, they are still "acceptable" targets. Doesn't help that PSW who are well-known play into the stereotypes and those are the most typical roles they get or accept. Like I said, maybe they don't all think they're PS role models and thus think nothing of it, and maybe only I'm taking it seriously. Or they don't see it as such, who can say? But...it makes me sad that people like Cass Elliott, Kate Smith, Marie Dressler, et al would be laughed out of a recording studio or movie studio today. Then you had people like Karen Carpenter whom the above mindset literally murdered. And that too still happens today from time to time. (EDIT, KIND OF OT: Gizzark? You were the Rita Hayworth/classic films fan, no?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 22:40:36 GMT -5
Maybe I've got more carny in me than I thought. The more tasteless they go, I just find myself thinking "what great heat!" I don't think I believe there's any line that shouldn't be crossed in the name of heel heat, full stop.
The caveat is that in the end, the face HAS to win. If not, you're only turning viewers away.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 7, 2019 22:49:49 GMT -5
Larry Zbyszko's handling of Spicolli's death.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 7, 2019 23:10:58 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but seeing the Piggie James angle on TV actually sunk my anorexia to the lowest point it's ever been. I’m so sorry. I had quit watching at that point, but knew about it from here. I recently watched Mickie’s collection on the network and she did say it upset her, but then said that it was positive as girls came up to her that had been bullied and it got them talking about it. To me, it seemed like other interviews on the network where I picture McMahon telling them to say that stuff. It affected different people in different ways I’m sure, but overall I think it was a horrible thing to do. I think in the end, Vince is a guy that can be cold blooded and just because we see it on tv doesn’t mean it’s right.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 7, 2019 23:19:04 GMT -5
Angles involving a wrestlers past drug addiction or alcoholism can be kind of disturbing. Jake Roberts vs Jerry Lawler comes to mind.
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Post by RKTaker on Feb 7, 2019 23:27:26 GMT -5
brock lesnar vs zaxk gowan with lesnar taking off gowan's prosthetic leg and just destroying him really bothered him ,especially since i was really young also didn't know what a prosthetic leg was, also was the first time i remember ever watching wrestling
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 7, 2019 23:28:04 GMT -5
Angles involving a wrestlers past drug addiction or alcoholism can be kind of disturbing. Jake Roberts vs Jerry Lawler comes to mind. The Scott Hall in WCW was pretty bad too, They wanted it to be so ha ha funny when Hall puked on Bischoff but the whole thing was said and worst know how bad Hall had it in problems. Same about Jake. I felt forcing it on them only made it worse for them in the long run.
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