Reflecting on a 4 year old thread on Becky Lynch...

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officialfan.proboards.com/thread/516994/becky-lynch-analysis-successful?page=1

First of all, that "tdj" guy who started the thread seems like a weirdo.  Definitely seems like someone who was obsessed with bad hairline analysis and derpy feet jokes and deleted himself because he took his satirical posts so far and was wasting too much time on this forum.   Wonder what ever happened to him... hmm.



Anyway, I wanted to reflect back on this old post.  At this point it really seemed like Becky was floundering, going from gimmick to gimmick, of course starting with that terrible Irish dancing jig.  At this point I think she was a heel "rocker chick" aligned with Sasha banks and, quite frankly, I would have never expected her to become as big on the main roster as she is with current audiences. 

It's pretty shocking to me comparing what I and many thought about her and/or the company 4 years ago to the fact that she realistically may end up main eventing Wrestlemania.  Most comments seemed positive about her but pessimistic about how WWE handles females.  




Not going to single out anyone by username (feel free to do that yourself if you posted in that thread back then) but some of the comments are super interesting..

Becky Lynch should be the face of the WWE.

Seems like it could be a possibility!

I think there are simply too many ahead of her in the pecking order. There's a chance she'll stumble across something that will make her rise to the top or at least carve out her own niche but I can't see it at the moment.

I 100% agreed with this take at that point but she certainly has found her stride and risen. 

The headbanging thing is weird, but whatever. At least it's not yet another "I'm an alpha bitch heel grr" or "Haha! Look at how quirky I am!" face.

She pretty much is a tweener version of the first lol.  But it seems to be working.

She bores me stupid, personally



Everything about her comes across as forced and unnatural. The whole Lita knockoff gimmick especially and her heel turn & work isn't any more natural either

I find this take interesting as well.  I've seen some people consider her even today with her current stuff forced and unnatural.  

Becky's hot as hell, throws a good suplex, has a kickass finisher, and has a goofy sort of charisma. If she's unsuccessful in WWE it'll be entirely due to the company sabotaging her.

Interesting prediction as well.  I know some people thought she was being sabotaged by Kevin Dunn because of her accent (maybe more so on Reddit than on here)... but it seems if that was going on, she's overcome it. 

Anyways, no, I don't think she will, but only for the same reason that cripples every other diva: WWE's insistence to not push them or treat them seriously once they hit the main roster. And that's a shame, because from what I've seen of her, she is quite the talented ring worker and is nothing short of stunning in the looks department. Those two things are instant success for a female wrestler if she is booked properly, but back to what I said before--WWE doesn't book women properly on the main roster.

She's female.



She'll be as successful as a woman can possibly be in the WWE, which is not very.

She's a woman in WWE



She's got no chance.

THESE quotes was really interesting to me. As hamfisted as the women's revolution/evolution was/is at times ('hey look at this first!' 'hey look at this first!' 'hey we have ronda rousey now!'), female superstars have come SUCH a long way compared to the way they were booked and perceived in early 2015. I think that's pretty damn cool.






So anyway, even if you weren't around back then or didn't post in that thread, did you ever think Becky would become such a big attraction in WWE?  And, similarly, did you ever think that women in general would have such a higher stock in the company? 



For me, it's an outright "hell no" for both.  Becky isn't even my favorite female performer today... but it's pretty damn cool to see how things have played out for her so positively.

[lucas_lee]

Never in my wildest dreams did i think shed make it this big

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I appreciate you bringing this thread to my attention. I sat here absolutely transfixed with the argument between forum-favorite KN and this Cait person, who was absolutely 100% certain that Becky was going to win that Horsewomen Fatal 4-way. Just no doubt in his/her mind that it was going to go down that way. Holy shit the way he/she talked down to people in that thread. And then Steveweiser inexplicably backing Cait up! And even after the result came in, he/she was still throwing punches!

I’m always thankful when these old threads come along and I avoided saying something stupid in them.

As for the issue at hand, Becky was and continues to be my favorite of the Horsewomen. I always thought she had complete star potential, but the one place I was wrong up until recently, was thinking she was easily the weakest in-ring performer of the group. Until the Charlotte feud, she hadn’t really blown me away (the Sasha Takeover Match aside), but she’s really turned it out. Still not the smoothest of the four, but she brings her own unique charm between the ropes. I’d honestly struggle to rank them at this point.

It’s really crazy to see how far Women’s wrestling has come in WWE in just these four years. All those comments about how women’s wrestling was meaningless in WWE. I’m glad we’ve reached this point where we can legitimately discuss whether a female superstar is the biggest star in the company or not.

EDIT: In addition to the weird Cait stuff, god damn the body stuff was cringe-inducing as well.

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I thought the thread was funny for another reason lol. Glad this was brought up.

[BlackoutCreature]

So I just read my post in that thread. I was really off the mark, wasn't I? Well, that's not gonna stop me from claiming I was 100% correct, no matter how much reality disagrees.

[Friday Night SmackSown]

Remember when she started off with an Irish Jig gimmick?

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Feb 7, 2019 21:39:58 GMT -5 Friday Night SmackSown said:

Remember when she started off with an Irish Jig gimmick?

As HORRIBLE as that shit was... I honestly thought that her original theme she used for like two shows was f***ing lit. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w6WnNgzkRE





There used to be a different version with drums floating on Youtube that was even better.

[Dub H]

As I said years ago

Better than Sasha

[GuyOfOwnage]

I always felt very strongly that Becky was the best of the Horsewomen and deserved to rise to the top, but I just didn't know when or if it'd happen.

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I like Becky Lynch.

[masterthought]

Feb 7, 2019 21:24:32 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

So I just read my post in that thread. I was really off the mark, wasn't I? Well, that's not gonna stop me from claiming I was 100% correct, no matter how much reality disagrees.

"She's ok. Yes she's a great in-ring performer, but she really hasn't done anything to stick out of the pack. The gimmick as Sasha Banks lackey hasn't done her any favors. Say what you want about her Lucky Charms/River Dance gimmick she debuted with, at least she stood out with it. Now she's just kinda there. Hopefully when her and Banks separate she'll show us something. If not, then she might still get called up at some point, but just to take up space in multi-Diva matches, I doubt she'd get any kind of meaningful role or push even by Divas standards."


Nah, You weren't that off the mark. At that point in Becky's career she was just OK. She didn't have a character or a notable match at that point. She didn't stand out as a lackey because she was a lackey. Being just kinda there is what a lackey is.


"Hopefully when her and Banks separate she'll show us something"

You were right on the money with this. Becky and Sasha separating lead to their great NXT Takeover match and Becky stepping out of the shadow and became someone who stood out. You also weren't wrong for thinking WWE wouldn't push her at the time(2015). It was all Bella twins and 5 minute matches back then. Also for a time Becky did take up space when she was the third wheel in PCB. Becky vs Charlotte at the Royal Rumble 2016 really changed everything.






Oh and shout out to the guy that said she should be the face of WWE. He was obviously joking but here we are.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Some were ready to cast aside this woman four years ago over a “derpy eye”? And we throw stones at WWE for being too judgmental about looks?

[Gus Richlen: Ruffian]

I don't know if I posted anything in that thread and I'm afraid to look because of my nasty tendency to be on one extreme or the other, at least back then.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Hey, I once said Becky Lynch couldn't talk.

...Granted, it was in 2015 but goddamn, what a fool I look like now, lmao.

[Jonathan Michaels]

Feb 7, 2019 21:57:22 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Some were ready to cast aside this woman four years ago over a “derpy eye”? And we throw stones at WWE for being too judgmental about looks?

Yes, because obviously nobody with a wonky eye could ever be successful in WWE............*coughSHAWNMICHAELScough*

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

To be fair, Becky was pretty much the distant fourth of the bunch at this particular moment in time. Unlike the others who had already had breakout moments, hers was yet to come, first holding up her end of the four way, and then her match with Sasha at the next Takeover.

[theironyuppie]

For another Becky-in-2015 moment, one of her late 2015 matches with Sasha (I think the one on the TLC kickoff show) mentions Paul Heyman tweeting about how he saw great things in Becky's future.

[The Unconquered Sun]

Damn, we’ve got a lot of deleted members.

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I knew I recognised that bores me stupid/lita knock off comment sounded familiar. That was me

I stand by it at the time. I remember that whole period for Becky and at the time it just screamed lame. I’m sure that comment was made before Becky vs Sasha at Takeover right? Because after that match I was “Holy s***” she’s so good in the ring to the point I didn’t cared how forced it felt before the match started”

Then she started doing the steampunk stuff which I thought looked awesome

[PKO]

My opinion of Becky at that time was that she had a lot of potential, but the dots weren’t quite connecting yet. Her matches were ok, but not very exciting. Her character was better than it had been, but still came off forced. Her look/outfits were getting better, but still needed work. I think when she was called up she actually ended up improving in all areas, and she fit in the main roster better than she ever did in NXT.

Something that was evident was that she was trying very hard, sometimes to a detriment. Someone posted some gifs in that thread of Sasha and Becky saying one has IT and the other didn’t and it was so true. It’s easy to forget from her main roster run, but NXT Sasha was something else, she looked like a freakin star every week. Becky looked like a performer. She looked like what she was doing was a performance, it never seemed authentic. It’s odd when you see the Becky of today and think that just a few years ago that was the case.

What a journey she’s had. From her time in NXT when she working things out, getting called up and being the overlooked one for a while, being the backbone of the Smackdown women’s division at the start of the brand split only to drift into almost insignificance, then having the fan support get her back to the top and exploding this past summer. It’s a crazy journey of ups and down.

Reading that thread, it was almost delightful knowing that Cait was going to be proven wrong given his superior attitude to others.