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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 16:44:27 GMT -5
BECKY YOU ARE SUSPEND.
But make sure to appear on every show from now on,even the ones you were not in before.In fact, you just got into 205 Live and NXT Japan.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 9, 2019 16:51:55 GMT -5
Can’t wait to see Becky take exception to being asked to sign her Wrestlemania title match contract. How. Dare. They. That wasn’t the point of last week’s story though. Throughout November and December, Becky on twitter kept pushing this idea that the doctors are intentionally holding her back from being cleared, leading to her losing out on her match with Charlotte at Survivor Series. It would make sense for her to be sketchy and paranoid with seeing a doctor because 1) In kayfabe, Stephanie isn’t the mos trustworthy person, 2) She doesn’t want to lose out on yet another opportunity to face Ronda at a big show, and 3) She thinks the doctors will ultimately say no to her being cleared and have her miss Mania. It paints a picture of Becky being paranoid of a moment she worked hard to earn being stripped from her. She didn’t do it just because. But we all know the doctors weren’t holding her back at SS, so that was just talk so that this tough character can save face. 1) True, but she’s lashing out when they are only asking for her to do something that is completely reasonable/necessary(plus with Becky/McMahons having little contact before this, they aren’t earning this tension) 2) True, but have it build up to getting physical with the McMahons out of that frustration or have the McMahons end up screwing her which leads to something 3) If she can’t go that sucks for the character but being physically able is a well established point in the storyline. So instead of earning the emotional frustration of being unable to compete or being screwed over. She only appears irrational and foolish. So yes she is being written towards being a character that will take except to even being asked to sign her Mania contract.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 9, 2019 17:47:06 GMT -5
Do we worry about what happens when Becky is moved to Raw full-time? Because I kinda do... Considering she’ll have the women’s title and be the most over woman in the company, I have zero need to worry just because it’s Raw. This is exactly why you should be worried. As stated multiple times, Ronda vs. Becky sells itself. All you gotta do is keep the two away from each other. Show vignettes of Becky and Ronda training, sparring, and being laser focused on the 'Mania match. Do some of those selfie promos to do some trash talk and to keep people hyped. This is an easy layup. What you don't need is every McMahon on the planet interjecting themselves and sucking away heat. Completely unnecessary. You have the entire calendar year, post-Wrestlemania, to do Becky vs. McMahon bullshit.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 18:01:00 GMT -5
Considering she’ll have the women’s title and be the most over woman in the company, I have zero need to worry just because it’s Raw. This is exactly why you should be worried. As stated multiple times, Ronda vs. Becky sells itself. All you gotta do is keep the two away from each other. Show vignettes of Becky and Ronda training, sparring, and being laser focused on the 'Mania match. Do some of those selfie promos to do some trash talk and to keep people hyped. This is an easy layup. What you don't need is every McMahon on the planet interjecting themselves and sucking away heat. Completely unnecessary. You have the entire calendar year, post-Wrestlemania, to do Becky vs. McMahon bullshit. While I agree ,there is a line where they can do it, sell the "Stone Cold" similarity and keep her over. There is such a thing as overdoing it which is what worries me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:07:48 GMT -5
Considering she’ll have the women’s title and be the most over woman in the company, I have zero need to worry just because it’s Raw. This is exactly why you should be worried. As stated multiple times, Ronda vs. Becky sells itself. All you gotta do is keep the two away from each other. Show vignettes of Becky and Ronda training, sparring, and being laser focused on the 'Mania match. Do some of those selfie promos to do some trash talk and to keep people hyped. This is an easy layup. What you don't need is every McMahon on the planet interjecting themselves and sucking away heat. Completely unnecessary. You have the entire calendar year, post-Wrestlemania, to do Becky vs. McMahon bullshit. It’s not sucking away any heat. On the contrary. It’s building up more support for Becky. Those last two segments had the audience in the palm of Becky’s hands. They went wild when she took down Stephanie and slapped Triple H. There’s only so many of those vignettes you can do before people clamor for some sort of confrontation. And with three or so months until Mania, vignettes can only get them so far without doing the same face to face over and over again. To me, this angle keeps Becky occupied and adds a new hurdle for her to overcome to set her up as this super over underdog while also giving her an arch for after mania in the form of overcoming Stephanie and her naysayers. For every nonsensical segment Raw has, they have a few angles and superstars that make that show watchable imo. And Becky will no doubt be one of them. I have zero reason to worry about if Raw can book Becky correctly as both shows at the end of the day get approved by Vince. And so far, he hasn’t messed up Becky on SDL.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:08:02 GMT -5
I say go full Stone Cold ripoff and have her spray Triple H and Stephanie with Guinness.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 9, 2019 18:15:48 GMT -5
This is exactly why you should be worried. As stated multiple times, Ronda vs. Becky sells itself. All you gotta do is keep the two away from each other. Show vignettes of Becky and Ronda training, sparring, and being laser focused on the 'Mania match. Do some of those selfie promos to do some trash talk and to keep people hyped. This is an easy layup. What you don't need is every McMahon on the planet interjecting themselves and sucking away heat. Completely unnecessary. You have the entire calendar year, post-Wrestlemania, to do Becky vs. McMahon bullshit. While I agree ,there is a line where they can do it, sell the "Stone Cold" similarity and keep her over. There is such a thing as overdoing it which is what worries me. But you can save the Stone Cold anti-authority stuff for after Mania. Becky is, essentially, going to put Ronda on the shelf, costing the WWE one of their biggest stars. Costing them untold amounts of money. etc. etc. Use that as the source of the McMahons vindictiveness over Becky. And Becky not giving a single solitary f*** is the angle.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 18:17:08 GMT -5
While I agree ,there is a line where they can do it, sell the "Stone Cold" similarity and keep her over. There is such a thing as overdoing it which is what worries me. But you can save the Stone Cold anti-authority stuff for after Mania. Becky is, essentially, going to put Ronda on the shelf, costing the WWE one of their biggest stars. Costing them untold amounts of money. etc. etc. Use that as the source of the McMahons vindictiveness over Becky. And Becky not giving a single solitary f*** is the angle. I agree, but now you are expecting too much from then in the end WWE is still bad writing
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 9, 2019 18:28:58 GMT -5
This is exactly why you should be worried. As stated multiple times, Ronda vs. Becky sells itself. All you gotta do is keep the two away from each other. Show vignettes of Becky and Ronda training, sparring, and being laser focused on the 'Mania match. Do some of those selfie promos to do some trash talk and to keep people hyped. This is an easy layup. What you don't need is every McMahon on the planet interjecting themselves and sucking away heat. Completely unnecessary. You have the entire calendar year, post-Wrestlemania, to do Becky vs. McMahon bullshit. It’s not sucking away any heat. On the contrary. It’s building up more support for Becky. Those last two segments had the audience in the palm of Becky’s hands. They went wild when she took down Stephanie and slapped Triple H. There’s only so many of those vignettes you can do before people clamor for some sort of confrontation. And with three or so months until Mania, vignettes can only get them so far without doing the same face to face over and over again. To me, this angle keeps Becky occupied and adds a new hurdle for her to overcome to set her up as this super over underdog while also giving her an arch for after mania in the form of overcoming Stephanie and her naysayers. For every nonsensical segment Raw has, they have a few angles and superstars that make that show watchable imo. And Becky will no doubt be one of them. I have zero reason to worry about if Raw can book Becky correctly as both shows at the end of the day get approved by Vince. And so far, he hasn’t messed up Becky on SDL. What if I suggested to you that, in this part of the angle, the McMahons should be 100% supportive of both Becky and Ronda headlining Wrestlemania? It makes more sense that the company would be all about this #HISTORIC #MOMENT, and they should only get pissed when Becky puts "Golden Goose" Ronda out of the company. Also, you can save the Becky-drilling-Stephanie #MOMENT for the RAW after Mania. And trust me, three months of McMahons included in this angle is more than enough time to suck away heat and interest. It won't kill it dead, the angle is too hot for that, but it can cool off considerably. And that's before any sort of obligatory inclusion of Charlotte.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 9, 2019 18:31:06 GMT -5
I say go full Stone Cold ripoff and have her spray Triple H and Stephanie with Guinness. "OH MY GOD, STEPHANIE'S GOTTA GUN!!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:32:16 GMT -5
The quicker they insert Charlotte into the match the better so we can end the whole "no triple threat" talk. As to Becky, I don't care if this is happening because she's getting spotlight she's rightfully earned. I'm cool with it. I mean when Vince says Becky's one of the most popular stars on a conference call that's huge.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 9, 2019 18:40:52 GMT -5
I say go full Stone Cold ripoff and have her spray Triple H and Stephanie with Guinness. Such a waste. Guinness, unlike that swill Austin was chugging, actually tastes good and is a joy to drink.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:45:28 GMT -5
The quicker they insert Charlotte into the match the better so we can end the whole "no triple threat" talk. As to Becky, I don't care if this is happening because she's getting spotlight she's rightfully earned. I'm cool with it. I mean when Vince says Becky's one of the most popular stars on a conference call that's huge. Basically. Regardless if this is a rehash or a McMahon angle, Becky is getting pushed and that’s all that matters to me. It’s something I’ve always wanted to see since her initial heel promo and now it’s happening. Also yeah, the sooner the Charlotte bandaid gets ripped off the skin the better.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 18:52:19 GMT -5
The quicker they insert Charlotte into the match the better so we can end the whole "no triple threat" talk. As to Becky, I don't care if this is happening because she's getting spotlight she's rightfully earned. I'm cool with it. I mean when Vince says Becky's one of the most popular stars on a conference call that's huge. it really wouldnt end. It would just change from "they shouldnt put her" to "they shouldnt have put her"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:54:34 GMT -5
The quicker they insert Charlotte into the match the better so we can end the whole "no triple threat" talk. As to Becky, I don't care if this is happening because she's getting spotlight she's rightfully earned. I'm cool with it. I mean when Vince says Becky's one of the most popular stars on a conference call that's huge. it really wouldnt end. It would just change from "they shouldnt put her" to "they shouldnt have put her" And everyone has a right to feel that way. I just really hope it doesn’t go so far to where it actively ruins the match or ruins Becky’s feel good moment for some just because someone the majority of internet peeps find to be a nuisance is being added into it. The crowd are going to be on fire for it, the match will likely be amazing due to who’s in it, and will no doubt blow the roof off when Becky beats them both.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 18:56:40 GMT -5
it really wouldnt end. It would just change from "they shouldnt put her" to "they shouldnt have put her" I just really hope it doesn’t go so far to where it actively ruins the match as the crowd are going to be on fire for it, the match will likely be amazing due to who’s in it, and will no doubt blow the roof off when Becky beats them both. I mean,if it goes as far as ruin for the crowd the issue is the booking. If the issue is ruining the match for you personally probably just avoid the discussions(since the arguments will barely change from both sides anyway).For me personally it will ruin the match somewhat(not fuily),but I hope it doesnt for most.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:00:10 GMT -5
The quicker they insert Charlotte into the match the better so we can end the whole "no triple threat" talk. As to Becky, I don't care if this is happening because she's getting spotlight she's rightfully earned. I'm cool with it. I mean when Vince says Becky's one of the most popular stars on a conference call that's huge. it really wouldnt end. It would just change from "they shouldnt put her" to "they shouldnt have put her" I'd take "I wish Charlotte wasn't in the match" over "I think they won't put Charlotte in the match" any day. One people are holding out for hope and setting themselves up for disappointment, the other's just an opinion in which they know the result.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 9, 2019 21:52:54 GMT -5
I have to wonder how badly Vince himself wants a piece of this, like he’s being bodily restrained by road agents to prevent himself from taking a Bexploder or something. (“SUPLEX ME, DAMMIT! DO IT ON THE GODDAMN APRON, THAT’S THE HARDEST PART OF THE RING!”) Real shit. Vince is the first one to take an ass whooping to put something over big
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 10, 2019 3:00:34 GMT -5
I actually don't like this. Becky attacked Steph on Monday and slapped Triple H on Tuesday, after insulting both of them. They're just undermining the feud (already) if they're not even going to keep her off TV for one show. If they're going to rehash what already happened last week, with Steph saying "okay, so you beat me up last week but I still want you to face Ronda, so you need to see a doctor," and then Becky beats her up again, then it really isn't going to take long for people to get tired of this. This is what I'm worried about. The same thing that they did with Punk when they brought him back too soon after he left, and rushed what could've been THE storyline of his career. Except Becky still has yet to leave. Or like another poster said when Cena was "fired" but never really left. It ruined any momentum that feud had. It feels like last week someone new started writing the feud, being more hands on, when before it felt way more organic. Lately it feels forced. Like, I still can't get over HHH's "you're afraid to face Rousey and that's why you won't get your knee looked at"...like....WHAT? I've heard of twisting the narrative, but he took the narrative and made it into a pretzel. Also...her motivations make NO sense (Becky's). Stephanie asked her probably the most fair and unbiased request Steph has asked anyone in the last decade. So Becky slaps her. Made no sense. Between this and HHH's prom the next night...yeah....it definitely feels like someone else took over the creative side of the story.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2019 3:07:27 GMT -5
I wonder. Do you think part of the reason the McMahon/Helmsley inclusion is yes, to give Becky the rub and really try to sell this main event, and yes, egos potentially and of course the rumored Summerslam match with Steph, but also, because Ronda is just not really equipped to carry her end of the match build?
Ronda's been used genuinely pretty well for the most part, being like Brock but present, but she can't talk much at the best of times. This is only worse with her being bailed on by the audiences when she's against Becky. I'm glad WWE seems to be leaning into it without having Ronda go full heel, at least not yet, since I don't think that'd fit the build here, but yeah, I think they're trying to cover Ronda's weaknesses and not expose her any more than they already have. Do not have Ronda do the talking any more than you have to.
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