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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 3:25:24 GMT -5
According to Fightful's review of Raw, Sean Ross Sapp said he was told this week that Rousey is really leaving after WM and best case scenario is that they're expecting her back at Survivor Series and that's if she doesn't start a family. With that said, what they don't want is half of their first women's WM main event gone the day after or immediately following the match. I dont see Charlotte winning as she likely needs to go full mad woman after Mania, and Ronda is really just a third wheel in all this aside from being champion. (which is insane.) Yeah, we know Ronda's losing it's just a matter of how we'll reach that point.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Feb 12, 2019 3:25:41 GMT -5
To me it's more annoying that they had Becky apologize to the Authority than it was to add Charlotte to the match. I love this era of wrestling where every McMahon family member is booked like Brock Lesnar
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 12, 2019 3:30:47 GMT -5
I dont see Charlotte winning as she likely needs to go full mad woman after Mania, and Ronda is really just a third wheel in all this aside from being champion. (which is insane.) Yeah, we know Ronda's losing it's just a matter of how we'll reach that point. I'm hoping this plays out like the Mania XX Triple Threat, where it seems like Michaels was added to the match so Hunter wouldn't take the fall, but then Benoit goes and taps Hunter anyway. I think Becky actually tapping Ronda, thereby reinforcing Charlotte as the true third wheel in this scenario would be so fitting. And of course, Ronda losing via an armbar submission would still carry the same shock as it would in a one on one match.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 12, 2019 3:36:38 GMT -5
According to Fightful's review of Raw, Sean Ross Sapp said he was told this week that Rousey is really leaving after WM and best case scenario is that they're expecting her back at Survivor Series and that's if she doesn't start a family. With that said, what they don't want is half of their first women's WM main event gone the day after or immediately following the match. Why not? It didn't hurt the WWE when half of Wrestlemania XIV's main event was gone the next night. And what better rub could Becky have than sending Ronda packing? Then, if Ronda does choose to return, she slots right into a programme with Becky, to get her win back. That reasoning seems like an excuse to stick Charlotte in there, to me.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 12, 2019 3:36:56 GMT -5
My question is: is being the daughter of Ric Flair really that big of a deal? Don't WWE realize most of Ric's legacy is kayfabe? Counter-question: at what point does it become possible that WWE has so strongly pushed and featured Charlotte because she puts on top notch performances and is someone they see worth carrying the division on her own merits? I'd easily rank her as one of the otp women on the main roster and absolutely deserving of the place she's in. WWE has zero capacity to do subtlety or restraint, but there is no reason for Charlotte this far in her career to be written off as someone they just want to push because she's Ric's daughter. I don't think how good she is matters in this instance, Becky Vs Ronda is the match people want to see. Hhh was awesome in 2000-2001, we still talk about his matches and angles from back then. Doesn't change the fact Rock Vs Austin was what people wanted to see at wm17. Sure a triple threat would have been fine but it wouldn't have been one of the iconic fueds and matches in WWE history.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 3:42:12 GMT -5
Yeah, we know Ronda's losing it's just a matter of how we'll reach that point. I'm hoping this plays out like the Mania XX Triple Threat, where it seems like Michaels was added to the match so Hunter wouldn't take the fall, but then Benoit goes and taps Hunter anyway. I think Becky actually tapping Ronda, thereby reinforcing Charlotte as the true third wheel in this scenario would be so fitting. And of course, Ronda losing via an armbar submission would still carry the same shock as it would in a one on one match.
I think Becky's going to hit the Bexploder to Charlotte through something (or the Lass Ride) and then get Ronda in the submission and win the match. It'll be great.
According to Fightful's review of Raw, Sean Ross Sapp said he was told this week that Rousey is really leaving after WM and best case scenario is that they're expecting her back at Survivor Series and that's if she doesn't start a family. With that said, what they don't want is half of their first women's WM main event gone the day after or immediately following the match. Why not? It didn't hurt the WWE when half of Wrestlemania XIV's main event was gone the next night. And what better rub could Becky have than sending Ronda packing? Then, if Ronda does choose to return, she slots right into a programme with Becky, to get her win back. That reasoning seems like an excuse to stick Charlotte in there, to me. It's their first one which is why they don't want half of the women gone after the match because. It would be a different story if it was the 5th for example. You have to use the momentum from the match to propel the entire division across both brands. With this Becky will use the momentum to propel the Raw title while Charlotte's going to enter the SDL women's title scene to propel that title so in the end everybody benefit rather than just having a moment that doesn't lead to anything. After this match Becky's probably feuding with Nia Jax while Charlotte on the other hand's feuding with Asuka probably. You gotta do what you can for the division's future.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 12, 2019 3:42:28 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Big fan of Charlotte, this had been signposted for ages anyway, it'll likely bump the match quality up further and it throws a big question mark into whether or not Becky comes out champ due to triple threat shenanigans.
I also would've still been happy with a straight Becky-Ronda bout, though, and I'm not thrilled about all the McMahoning.
Charlotte should paraphrase an old Ric line, too - "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it. Because I'm the best thing going today!"
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 12, 2019 4:08:49 GMT -5
Counter-question: at what point does it become possible that WWE has so strongly pushed and featured Charlotte because she puts on top notch performances and is someone they see worth carrying the division on her own merits? I'd easily rank her as one of the otp women on the main roster and absolutely deserving of the place she's in. WWE has zero capacity to do subtlety or restraint, but there is no reason for Charlotte this far in her career to be written off as someone they just want to push because she's Ric's daughter. I don't think how good she is matters in this instance, Becky Vs Ronda is the match people want to see. Hhh was awesome in 2000-2001, we still talk about his matches and angles from back then. Doesn't change the fact Rock Vs Austin was what people wanted to see at wm17. Sure a triple threat would have been fine but it wouldn't have been one of the iconic fueds and matches in WWE history.
Yeah, but Rock and Austin in 2001 were also experienced main-eventers and top stars. Ronda has been wrestling for a year and gets seriously rattled by hostile crowds, and while Becky's good, I think its fair to say she doesn't have the most dynamic moveset, and you want some strong moves to help keep fans' attention after a 7-hour Mania, so it really helps having someone who thrives under pressure and can help contribute those spots to help make it a truly memorable main event as well as a historic one. The irony of this whole build is that in some valid ways the match needs Charlotte, but they're smartly presenting it in a way which is going to make fans absolutely hate the idea.
And it'll make Becky's win all the sweeter when it happens.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 12, 2019 4:17:54 GMT -5
I gotta ask. Who's actually not going to watch the match now that Charlotte is added to it? me.At least not at the Wrestlemania day.I'm not paying one cent for it
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Post by Dub H on Feb 12, 2019 4:29:21 GMT -5
No one's not going to watch. oh f*** that you think I'm spending half an hour watching Rule 34 Reigns and Move #500: Armbar~! in the same ring after like 7 hours of wrestling? I have things to do. I have cute girls to send photos of dogs doing dog things to. I have dogs doing dog things to watch. I can pet them too. I can take them for walks. I can do anything I want to in this world. f*** it I'm going to play video games ,go draw or study Japanese. Maybe WWE is just trying to make me stop watching so i can do something productive
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Post by 4real on Feb 12, 2019 4:55:01 GMT -5
This was always the logical match after Survivor Series so Charlotte being left out made no sense. This will be a great match I’m sure and Becky will win.
Only problem now is where does this leave Asuka? WWE must have a top opponent planned for Mania right?
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Post by schma on Feb 12, 2019 4:57:10 GMT -5
Yeah, they're effectively elevating Charlotte into a new level with this. So much heat. The more heat she gets the bigger cheers Becky will get but on the flip side the higher chance that mega-heel Charlotte beats Asuka for the SDL title post-WM. The more I see from this the more I think Asuka's days as champion probably ends at that first post-WM ppv. Charlotte's just on a higher level so she's probably going to flatten her. It's similar to the Styles/Ambrose thing. I'm seeing people like Naomi, Nia, EC3 and others join in on Charlotte trolling the fans too. Kind of interesting. This is going to be fun as hell to keep track of haha. Might have to make a Charlotte is roasting people on twitter thread next. I love it. Heh classic bootleg Becky.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 12, 2019 5:06:06 GMT -5
Apathy is not heat.
The dislikes are because THEY DONT WANNA SEE HER. Even heel announces get 90% likes on youtube,because it can be exciting.She is not next level because of this,she is literally the same old tired Charlotte.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 12, 2019 5:28:01 GMT -5
Apathy is not heat. The dislikes are because THEY DONT WANNA SEE HER. Even heel announces get 90% likes on youtube,because it can be exciting.She is not next level because of this,she is literally the same old tired Charlotte. I think fans do want to see Charlotte. Hell, I like her more right now than I ever have before. But I just don't want to see her in this match. And the WWE know that's how fans feel, so either they're ignoring that because they really want her to be in it, or they're using that heat to their advantage, to rile up fans and make Becky's journey better. But I think it has to be Becky beating Charlotte and reclaiming her title shot, not just getting back into the match as the third leg of it.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 12, 2019 5:33:27 GMT -5
This was always the logical match after Survivor Series so Charlotte being left out made no sense. This will be a great match I’m sure and Becky will win. Only problem now is where does this leave Asuka? WWE must have a top opponent planned for Mania right? My first guess would have been Ember Moon (which you could kayfabe as a talent exchange between brands, Moon traded for Charlotte), but she did her elbow and will probably miss out on WrestleMania completely.
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Post by chronocross on Feb 12, 2019 5:53:23 GMT -5
I think it will be a great match and I still see Becky winning..hopefully.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Feb 12, 2019 6:10:19 GMT -5
Again, f*** this company. They don't deserve any money or the little ratings they still have from wrestling fans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 6:49:41 GMT -5
When Charlotte wins this match I am going to laugh my ass completely off.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 12, 2019 7:24:32 GMT -5
This is going to be fun as hell to keep track of haha. Might have to make a Charlotte is roasting people on twitter thread next. I love it. Heh classic bootleg Becky.
Becky did mysteriously predict this with her #ShoehornCharlotte social media. But then maybe if she just went to the doctor when asked none of this would have happened.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 12, 2019 7:38:34 GMT -5
Put her in the Rollins/Lesnar match. WM 35 ends with Becky tapping Lesnar to become the new Universal Champion.
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