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Post by oneday on Feb 11, 2019 23:32:21 GMT -5
Wasn't needed based off the storyline, but Charlotte is still easily woven into it based off the past 6 months. Can't say that I mind because Charlotte will make the match better. While a good wrestler, I find Becky boring in the ring and she needs someone like Charlotte/Sasha to take a match to the next level. I don't know if Ronda can do that, so why take the chance if they really are the main event.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 11, 2019 23:32:44 GMT -5
Only took fans turning on the entire roster and of course a Triple H match to make that happen. They’ve learned nothing. Yeah they had to hold there noses, but they did the right thing in the end. Plus him beating Triple H add to the overall moment of winning the title imo In retrospect Bryan straight up winning the Rumble and beating Orton sounds f***ing bland. Sometimes bland is the right thing to do.
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Post by Perd on Feb 11, 2019 23:33:09 GMT -5
This is the second most undeserved Flair insertion. #1 is David in Stacy Keibler.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 11, 2019 23:33:22 GMT -5
This is going to be a beast match
The Ronda/Becky stuff was hot week 1 but idk how they were going to keep it hot for 2 months
They are trying to screw Becky and she will get her shine at the end
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 11, 2019 23:34:27 GMT -5
Yeah they had to hold there noses, but they did the right thing in the end. Plus him beating Triple H add to the overall moment of winning the title imo In retrospect Bryan straight up winning the Rumble and beating Orton sounds f***ing bland. Sometimes bland is the right thing to do. True, but again I think the way it played out was better for fans and the company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 23:34:29 GMT -5
I will say one thing that could save this for me (although I still wouldn't like it nearly as much as just leaving it one-on-one, because it's still crowbarring Charlotte in to being in yet another first because this entire division exists solely as a spotlight for Triple H's Ric Flair crush), but is giving WWE WAY too much credit to think they would ever actually do - if they make it elimination. Then you can go ahead and have Charlotte in there getting in her spots or whatever, but you can still eventually ditch her and have Becky beat Ronda one-on-one with no hijinks around it or no room to argue for a fluke.
Although really the whole, "Becky will win anyway!" thing is the same problem I had with when she won the title from Charlotte as a heel. Yeah, sure, she's winning, but she isn't being depicted in the context in which I actually want to see her so her actual success is meaningless to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 23:35:06 GMT -5
Then. Now. Forever.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 11, 2019 23:35:25 GMT -5
Oh and I see all the talk about how the crowd will roar when Becky wins but what gives y'all the faith she will? If they believe enough that Becky and Ronda can't draw on the own, that they need Charlotte in the match, what makes you think she won't be given the win? Because this story is predictable as heck. And predictably isn’t a bad thing at all sometimes. This is one of those times. The story of Becky overcoming the McMahon’s, overcoming Charlotte, overcoming Ronda, overcoming her knee, and overcoming the years of being fourth best writes itself. Becky overcoming Charlotte was already done. Doing something like that again is not a interesting story. The angle was hot without the tired McMahon/Evil Authority figures addition. The freshest idea was the simplest one(Becky/Ronda) and they blew it by adding rehashes to the mix.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Feb 11, 2019 23:36:12 GMT -5
My question is: is being the daughter of Ric Flair really that big of a deal? Don't WWE realize most of Ric's legacy is kayfabe?
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Post by denna5 on Feb 11, 2019 23:36:22 GMT -5
Oh and I see all the talk about how the crowd will roar when Becky wins but what gives y'all the faith she will? If they believe enough that Becky and Ronda can't draw on the own, that they need Charlotte in the match, what makes you think she won't be given the win? Because this story is predictable as heck. And predictably isn’t a bad thing at all sometimes. This is one of those times. The story of Becky overcoming the McMahon’s, overcoming Charlotte, overcoming Ronda, overcoming her knee, and overcoming the years of being fourth best writes itself. I think part of the problem is that they have had a predictable story line with Becky before that could have ended with her winning the title, this past summer slam with the underdog story and they didn't go with it. Instead, they turned her heel and she made it work and the crowd made her the biggest baby face in the company but that wasn't their plan. I can see why people are worried they may try to swerve what should be the ending because they have done it before.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 11, 2019 23:37:19 GMT -5
The only way to fix this and get it back to the way it should be is Becky beats Charlotte at Fastlane to get her match back and then Charlotte does something, anything else.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Feb 11, 2019 23:38:16 GMT -5
I still believe the one-on-one match was the best option, but given they're intent on recreating Bryan's 2014 moment here, this is probably the best way to go about it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 23:38:32 GMT -5
Not really.
That's one thing we were telling you guys about it being a triple threat but you were overlooking it and only looking at the Becky/Ronda storyline. We didn't say it because we loved Charlotte, we said it because they were telling a long story that you just either didn't pick up on or you didn't like as much as the Becky/Ronda one. That's one reason why those "Becky WM" threads didn't make sense to me. I knew that I wasn't the only one who saw where this was going so to see this happen and potentially setup the triple threat just falls in line with my predictions.
Everyone saw where it was going. You're not special here. There's a reason people've been discussing the possibility the entire time. That doesn't mean it's a GOOD writing choice or one that magically makes things better. Both ways going make sense and one of those is doing the same shit that's been going on all year long while the other is something actually fresh. I know which one I'd take any day.And also... How does Becky winning at Mania even resolve the issue? She's been kicking Charlotte's ass all f***ing year. Why would she magically butt out just for the 70th time it happens? You seriously think everybody saw where this was going? We really doing this lmao? As for possibilities, we are speaking on predictions or wish lists? These past few months I've been making some predictions, I don't do wish lists. Which one do you do?
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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Feb 11, 2019 23:38:48 GMT -5
Two ways I see this going:
Becky beats up Vince until he adds her to the match.
Becky beats up Ric Flair on his big birthday bash to coerce Charlotte to force her to add to the match.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 11, 2019 23:40:13 GMT -5
The only way to fix this and get it back to the way it should be is Becky beats Charlotte at Fastlane to get her match back and then Charlotte does something, anything else. Without “I main evented WrestleMania!!!!” What is Charlotte gonna say every promo for the next year?
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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Feb 11, 2019 23:40:23 GMT -5
Then. Now. Always. Fixed for CBS.
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Post by Error on Feb 11, 2019 23:41:27 GMT -5
Oh and I see all the talk about how the crowd will roar when Becky wins but what gives y'all the faith she will? If they believe enough that Becky and Ronda can't draw on the own, that they need Charlotte in the match, what makes you think she won't be given the win? Because this story is predictable as heck. And predictably isn’t a bad thing at all sometimes. This is one of those times. The story of Becky overcoming the McMahon’s, overcoming Charlotte, overcoming Ronda, overcoming her knee, and overcoming the years of being fourth best writes itself. Sorry but "predicable" isn't much of a reason with WWE and especially not in this case as predicable would have been the one on one with Becky winning. Nakamura and Asuka winning was supposed to be predicable, Roman beating Lesnar was supposed to be predicable, twice, Taker beating Lesnar was thought to be predicable. I guess what I am saying is, predicable doesn't mean much in WWE.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 11, 2019 23:41:29 GMT -5
Everyone saw where it was going. You're not special here. There's a reason people've been discussing the possibility the entire time. That doesn't mean it's a GOOD writing choice or one that magically makes things better. Both ways going make sense and one of those is doing the same shit that's been going on all year long while the other is something actually fresh. I know which one I'd take any day.And also... How does Becky winning at Mania even resolve the issue? She's been kicking Charlotte's ass all f***ing year. Why would she magically butt out just for the 70th time it happens? You seriously think everybody saw where this was going? We really doing this lmao? As for possibilities, we are speaking on predictions or wish lists? These past few months I've been making some predictions, I don't do wish lists. Which one do you do? Why is it so important to you that you are right, everyone acknowledges you are right, and everyone accepts your opinion as the right opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 23:41:40 GMT -5
Because this story is predictable as heck. And predictably isn’t a bad thing at all sometimes. This is one of those times. The story of Becky overcoming the McMahon’s, overcoming Charlotte, overcoming Ronda, overcoming her knee, and overcoming the years of being fourth best writes itself. Becky overcoming Charlotte was already done. Doing something like that again is not a interesting story. The angle was hot without the tired McMahon/Evil Authority figures addition. The freshest idea was the simplest one(Becky/Ronda) and they blew it by adding rehashes to the mix. The crowd was on fire for Becky slapping triple h in the face and attacking Stephanie. Whether we like it or not, this Person Vs Authority story works with the right person. And to me, Becky has enough buildup to make it work. Plus, they could only do so many things in the span of three or so months before it would all end up being played out. This is the more interesting choice to get to. And yeah, we may have had Becky beating Charlotte at Evolution as an end slate to their feud, but Charlotte isn’t going to take that lying down. She isn’t just going to f*** off somewhere and lose to Asuka in the third or fourth match of the night. No. She wants to ruin Becky like Becky ruined her. She wants the spotlight. She wants her rightful place on top. And she’ll do anything to get there. Makes sense to me. And it builds up Becky even more.
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Post by Shark on Feb 11, 2019 23:42:02 GMT -5
The real sin for me is that they took a very simple angle and made it complicated. I'm not even going to say it's bad booking, it's just stupid booking.
As far as in ring goes, Charlotte being in the match makes it better. That is just a fact. We've started seeing Ronda slip in the ring especially when the crowd is not on her side. Charlotte being in there, helps considerably.
As far as the story goes, It's dog shit. Charlotte is not needed to make this match bigger. Ronda vs Becky is something that was teased, then taken away. People have wanted to see it since it was announced. It's just 2 women wanting to prove who the best really is. Doesn't need to be more complicated than that ESPECIALLY with the McMahon involvement.
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