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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:32:42 GMT -5
Well, yes, obviously, but also, f*** them. Why tho?
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 17, 2019 17:42:29 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word.
People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win.
Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it.
Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe.
Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:48:43 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word. People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win. Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it. Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe. Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way. Exactly. This triple threat and subsequent feud gives Becky and the audience a huge feel good moment. The underdog overcoming the doubters, the naysayers, the enemies, the obstacles. It’s a story as old as time itself and it’ll work out like so many times in the past. No one is going to realistically walk out or boo the match just because Charlotte is in it lmao
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 17, 2019 17:54:15 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word. People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win. Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it. Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe. Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way. Exactly. This triple threat and subsequent feud gives Becky and the audience a huge feel good moment. The underdog overcoming the doubters, the naysayers, the enemies, the obstacles. Her overcoming Charlotte was that storyline, she soundly defeated one of the establishment’s chosen ones that she has been past over for before.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 18:00:32 GMT -5
Exactly. This triple threat and subsequent feud gives Becky and the audience a huge feel good moment. The underdog overcoming the doubters, the naysayers, the enemies, the obstacles. Her overcoming Charlotte was that storyline, she soundly defeated one of the establishment’s chosen ones that she has been past over for before. How many times did Rock/Austin face off? Logically, their first Mania should’ve been the payoff, but it just kept on going. Or how many times were they intertwined with one another. But, that wasn’t the story. The story of it was Becky, the dickheaded friend who stabbed Charlotte in the back, proved to her that she was the better competitor and wanted to rub it in her face. This mania feud is the feud you’re talking about right now. Now it’s time for Becky to have her big babyface moment at the show of shows by beating her long term rival who stole a moment from Becky and became the thing she hated. And it’s working.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 17, 2019 18:18:35 GMT -5
Her overcoming Charlotte was that storyline, she soundly defeated one of the establishment’s chosen ones that she has been past over for before. How many times did Rock/Austin face off? Logically, their first Mania should’ve been the payoff, but it just kept on going. Or how many times were they intertwined with one another They usually kept Austin/Rock apart much of the year before Mania then made it the storyline. They didn’t have them feud to death for 4/5 months then have them main event Mania. Plus each Mania main event had a different story for it. Part 1: Austin/Corporate Champ Rock, Part 2: #1A vs #1B: Who is the man? Part 3: In his Prime Arrogant Rock vs Breaking Down Austin: The Rock’s quest to do the one thing he hadn’t done. Part 3 had the weakest premise truthfully. We’ve seen this Becky/ Charlotte feud recently and we’ve seen Evil Charlotte and face Becky in a Mania 3way title match already. Charlotte/Becky as a Mania match would be great, but not after having done it since the end of Summer. In fact they probably should’ve had the Becky/Charlotte feud lead to a big blow off match at Mania, instead of as the C storyline in a 3way. But I doubt they planned on the Becky stuff going the way it did since the Summer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 0:00:05 GMT -5
Exactly. This triple threat and subsequent feud gives Becky and the audience a huge feel good moment. The underdog overcoming the doubters, the naysayers, the enemies, the obstacles. Her overcoming Charlotte was that storyline, she soundly defeated one of the establishment’s chosen ones that she has been past over for before. She also scooted in and beat Charlotte in a Royal Rumble she wasn't booked in after losing her title clean so it's not as if that slate was totally clean.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2019 0:03:12 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word. People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win. Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it. Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe. Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way. Precisely all of this
Almost like with Braun where people like him and are willing to overlook the things that made him OP, to an extent it's being done with Becky too right now
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Post by schma on Feb 18, 2019 0:09:55 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word. People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win. Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it. Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe. Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way. Precisely all of this
Almost like with Braun where people like him and are willing to overlook the things that made him OP, to an extent it's being done with Becky too right now
I think part of the reason people are giving her a pass on being booked so strongly is that her rise has been organic and long term. Remember that for a couple years she was left playing the also ran while they tried other women ahead of her. Hell they even gave her a hefty losing streak last year. She's overcome 2 years of terrible booking to become the hottest thing going. In that context I think the comparison of her to Reigns or Cena is not quite right. Eventually they'll bring her back down to earth but right now them pushing her this hard makes a ton of sense for the story, especially when you remember she'll be up against the undefeated MMA crossover behemoth in Ronda Rousey.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2019 0:16:44 GMT -5
Precisely all of this
Almost like with Braun where people like him and are willing to overlook the things that made him OP, to an extent it's being done with Becky too right now
I think part of the reason people are giving her a pass on being booked so strongly is that her rise has been organic and long term. Remember that for a couple years she was left playing the also ran while they tried other women ahead of her. Hell they even gave her a hefty losing streak last year. She's overcome 2 years of terrible booking to become the hottest thing going. In that context I think the comparison of her to Reigns or Cena is not quite right. Eventually they'll bring her back down to earth but right now them pushing her this hard makes a ton of sense for the story, especially when you remember she'll be up against the undefeated MMA crossover behemoth in Ronda Rousey. All that is true
However, subconsciously I think fans wanted an "easy W" for Becky with Ronda taking a break. Now with Charlotte added, it adds doubt into their minds despite the fact she's been whooping Charlotte ass for months
Charlotte is there to add excitement to the match and also be able to cover for Ronda whether it be on the mic or in ring. Charlotte/Becky have great chemistry and at the end of the day this is still a Becky victory but the feud has better legs with Charlotte involved. She's just flavoring to make this all come together
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 18, 2019 0:23:12 GMT -5
Charlotte puts Becky over for months. Has kept doing so ever since, with Becky almost always getting the final word. People actually think Charlotte can steal Becky's moment. People actually think Charlotte can win. Charlotte has earned a place in the match. There is no Becky the Underdog without her, because Becky hasn't actually been an underdog for coming up on a year now. Ronda alone can't keep that smokescreen up. We love Becky, so we're willing to overlook that when someone was handed something in this feud, it was Becky inserting herself into a Rumble after losing clean, right at the end, while Charlotte had to actually wrestle in it. Charlotte is the Triple H and the Batista to Becky's Daniel Bryan, combined. Who here honestly thought Ronda was going to win? Even one of you? I'm legitimately curious, because I don't think I've even seen marks thinking that was the outcome, outside of maybe a Backlash rematch, maybe. Becky beating Ronda would have been good, maybe great, but this is going to be a whole lot better. It's not just a victory lap with a foregone conclusion this way. Precisely all of this
Almost like with Braun where people like him and are willing to overlook the things that made him OP, to an extent it's being done with Becky too right now
There's an interesting analogy to be drawn between Roman/Braun and Charlotte/Becky: top star goes all out to put their close friend over and it turns into a crazy amount of momentum. I do think Becky will do a better job at sustaining it when her and Charlotte are doing different things, though.
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Post by schma on Feb 18, 2019 0:33:58 GMT -5
I think part of the reason people are giving her a pass on being booked so strongly is that her rise has been organic and long term. Remember that for a couple years she was left playing the also ran while they tried other women ahead of her. Hell they even gave her a hefty losing streak last year. She's overcome 2 years of terrible booking to become the hottest thing going. In that context I think the comparison of her to Reigns or Cena is not quite right. Eventually they'll bring her back down to earth but right now them pushing her this hard makes a ton of sense for the story, especially when you remember she'll be up against the undefeated MMA crossover behemoth in Ronda Rousey. All that is true
However, subconsciously I think fans wanted an "easy W" for Becky with Ronda taking a break. Now with Charlotte added, it adds doubt into their minds despite the fact she's been whooping Charlotte ass for months
Charlotte is there to add excitement to the match and also be able to cover for Ronda whether it be on the mic or in ring. Charlotte/Becky have great chemistry and at the end of the day this is still a Becky victory but the feud has better legs with Charlotte involved. She's just flavoring to make this all come together
I'm very much in the one on one camp but I didn't want an easy W for Becky. I want her to work for it. I want Ronda to take her to the limit because that makes the most sense and would likely make a fantastic match.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2019 0:38:18 GMT -5
All that is true
However, subconsciously I think fans wanted an "easy W" for Becky with Ronda taking a break. Now with Charlotte added, it adds doubt into their minds despite the fact she's been whooping Charlotte ass for months
Charlotte is there to add excitement to the match and also be able to cover for Ronda whether it be on the mic or in ring. Charlotte/Becky have great chemistry and at the end of the day this is still a Becky victory but the feud has better legs with Charlotte involved. She's just flavoring to make this all come together
I'm very much in the one on one camp but I didn't want an easy W for Becky. I want her to work for it. I want Ronda to take her to the limit because that makes the most sense and would likely make a fantastic match. Easy W in regards to no matter what Ronda is leaving so under no circumstances will Becky not win the title but with Charlotte that adds a little doubt
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Post by schma on Feb 18, 2019 0:42:44 GMT -5
I'm very much in the one on one camp but I didn't want an easy W for Becky. I want her to work for it. I want Ronda to take her to the limit because that makes the most sense and would likely make a fantastic match. Easy W in regards to no matter what Ronda is leaving so under no circumstances will Becky not win the title but with Charlotte that adds a little doubt I'm actually starting to wish that we didn't know she was on her way out. Naturally I hope she does the right thing and does the job but it'd be great if I didn't know she was leaving, it would make a Becky win mean that much more.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Feb 18, 2019 2:12:33 GMT -5
Way better as a triple threat imo and it ain’t even close. Nope.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 3:03:46 GMT -5
Way better as a triple threat imo and it ain’t even close. Nope. And that’s your opinion. In my opinion, it is.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 18, 2019 3:08:48 GMT -5
Easy W in regards to no matter what Ronda is leaving so under no circumstances will Becky not win the title but with Charlotte that adds a little doubt I'm actually starting to wish that we didn't know she was on her way out. Naturally I hope she does the right thing and does the job but it'd be great if I didn't know she was leaving, it would make a Becky win mean that much more. That does give a lot of what-ifs, like if the crowd would have been more evenly split if that was the case.
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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 18, 2019 9:56:57 GMT -5
I saw a different Charlotte tonight, something just clicked I think. The delivery on the promo got way better, she had that Nature Boy swagger for a minute.
I am interested how this goes. Not my favorite road to the Main Event but I'll take it.
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 18, 2019 9:57:03 GMT -5
The way Charlotte has been booked is so bizarre. She has basically done a heel turn but has had no real success. There is literally no rationale via the booking to justify her being in a major WM match. Her last notable PPV win was in fact the SS match where she screwed Becky against Carmella. Since then? Jobbed to Becky, jobbed in the Last Woman Standing match, got herself DQed against Rousey at Survivor Series, did not win the TLC, did not win the Rumble. If anything that's how you book a face to finally have them get the big win at WM after months of struggles.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 18, 2019 10:02:53 GMT -5
The way Charlotte has been booked is so bizarre. She has basically done a heel turn but has had no real success. There is literally no rationale via the booking to justify her being in a major WM match. Her last notable PPV win was in fact the SS match where she screwed Becky against Carmella. Since then? Jobbed to Becky, jobbed in the Last Woman Standing match, got herself DQed against Rousey at Survivor Series, did not win the TLC, did not win the Rumble. If anything that's how you book a face to finally have them get the big win at WM after months of struggles. I dont like Charlotte being in but that is the point. She doesnt deserve to be in there, but she is in regardles,she the one given opportunities
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