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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 13, 2019 6:00:52 GMT -5
I think "I'll sell my soul to the devil, I'll burn in hell..." is a bit much, but other than that he's portraying a valiant underdog babyface way better than I expected him to.
They gotta give him a little slack on the mic tho, let him talk as himself more. That's how you're going to get the crowd to really believe in him.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 13, 2019 7:00:43 GMT -5
To continue with the Bret Hart comparison some people are making (bad on the mic, great in the ring) there are also similarities in circumstance.
He feels like he's in the spot pretty much by default.
Just like in 1992 when they lost Hogan, Sid Warrior, WWE are losing a lot of talent especially on Raw, in particular Roman, he looks like they've literally gone through the scripts for the last few years and put Rollins instead of Roman.
And considering how bored everyone's been with that narrative, going through it for what? The 4th time or something, it's not exactly inspired.
Balor would have been the best choice, bring out The Demon, who's undefeated and hasn't been seen in years and you have something fresh, it also helps out Smackdown by giving Bryan someone to fight in a big match who isn't AJ Styles.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 13, 2019 9:22:36 GMT -5
To continue with the Bret Hart comparison some people are making (bad on the mic, great in the ring) there are also similarities in circumstance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 10:21:32 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed.
Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good?
Come on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 10:26:37 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed. Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good? Come on. Or, you know, it's possible that it could be different people saying those things, or that people may have reevaluated their opinions on him.
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Post by chronocross on Feb 13, 2019 10:26:57 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed. Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good? Come on. I can't speak for everyone but I thought he was good, but I never thought he would be in the Universal title picture. Going into January, I thought Finn would win the Rumble and Brock would smash Braun again at the Rumble title match. I don't hate Seth but not in a hurry to see him beat Brock to be honest. I wish they would have pursued the Finn storyline and having him as the Demon beating Brock but it looks like that's not going to happen.
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Post by héad.casé on Feb 13, 2019 11:23:59 GMT -5
I do like him, and I don’t mind him getting the Mania Title shot, it’s just that he’s feuding with Lesnar. I mean over the next few weeks they may as well dust off Paul’s promos from last year, because it’s going to be the exact same thing, the exact same angle, and there’s not much Seth can do about it except work with what he’s given.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 13, 2019 13:14:45 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed. Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good? Come on. Some truth and some stretch
Somewhere in the middle
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Post by segaz on Feb 13, 2019 13:27:27 GMT -5
Personally, I'm getting tired of the stipulation of the Royal Rumble winner getting a title shot at Wrestlemania. Every Rumble is essentially decided before it starts, with, what, three or four wrestlers having a shot at winning. Then there's a tedious pattern that defers any true development until Wrestlemania, plus the Lesnar factor. It's not Seth's fault but these attempts to make the new face of the company should have happened already. Want Roman to be the guy? Should have won the first time. Give Roman time as the true face of the company, then give it to Seth or Balor or whomever. It just seems too little, too late to me. Seth's been a member of the main roster for seven years already. Either he's your guy or he's not. Imagine if you had the Rock or Austin or Cena wait seven years before getting the chance to be the guy. Well it took Bret a long time to be come champion, even though he faced Randy Savage as champ years before
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Post by Woo on Feb 13, 2019 13:31:11 GMT -5
For me it was those lame 90's fire pants he wore at the 2018 Rumble.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 13, 2019 13:33:16 GMT -5
For me it was those lame 90's fire pants he wore at the 2018 Rumble. But the Chicago Bears themed gear he won this year was some of the best he's had
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 13:36:56 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed. Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good? Come on. Id say it was always a bubbling feeling for most people and the TLC match with Ambrose just sort of brought it all to the forefront. That’s when I really noticed the tides turning, before it was mainly on the writing team/Vince.
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Post by Woo on Feb 13, 2019 13:38:36 GMT -5
For me it was those lame 90's fire pants he wore at the 2018 Rumble. But the Chicago Bears themed gear he won this year was some of the best he's had He just came across as such an vanilla indy guy in his two matches that night that I felt the guy had zero star power at all. Sort of turned me against him. Honestly he never should have turned face after the Shield. Nor lost the blonde streak in his hair.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 13, 2019 13:40:10 GMT -5
Since when did this start becoming a thing since he was just real hot and people were on board with him getting a shot at Lesnar and beating him Has he cooled down a bit, yes but considering they say he's got an injury i'm willing to write that off I'm guessing maybe it's a Shield thing or idk but figured people be more hype for Seth/Lesnar as far as he's low key got the best shot of actually beating Lesnar and no one is really talking about it
I personally got like that when I heard how he is IRL. But that's personal.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 13, 2019 13:41:51 GMT -5
Latest example of everyone turning on a guy once they actually start getting pushed. Tons of people loved him a few months ago, now we're getting 4 page threads about how he doesn't have it as a babyface and people are even saying his matches aren't that good? Come on. Id say it was always a bubbling feeling for most people and the TLC match with Ambrose just sort of brought it all to the forefront. That’s when I really noticed the tides turning, before it was mainly on the writing team/Vince. Or the fact he's the only Shield guy left so he's the top guy and people were clamoring for Seth to be champ at this point last year
Shield dominated Raw in 2018 and he a thousand matches with Dolph (in fairness some were really good) but I can see their being fatigue with him
However, some stretchy responses about how I never liked him does make me laugh
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 13:59:50 GMT -5
Honestly we say this a lot but Rollins needs to go to SDL. He's so associated with Raw and the color red that even him being on the blue brand completely gives him a new lease on life.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 13, 2019 14:16:17 GMT -5
Honestly we say this a lot but Rollins needs to go to SDL. He's so associated with Raw and the color red that even him being on the blue brand completely gives him a new lease on life. Agreed. He's been on Raw since the brand split a few years ago
In a sense him and AJ have been the pillar of their shows but even AJ has gotten to show up on Raw (due to Bray illness) but both guys could use the new color brand
I think they might have been better off calling an add lib per se and throwing Seth with DB and giving Lesnar someone like Braun (only if he's winning the title)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 14:18:00 GMT -5
Honestly we say this a lot but Rollins needs to go to SDL. He's so associated with Raw and the color red that even him being on the blue brand completely gives him a new lease on life. Agreed. He's been on Raw since the brand split a few years ago In a sense him and AJ have been the pillar of their shows but even AJ has gotten to show up on Raw (due to Bray illness) but both guys could use the new color brand
I think they might have been better off calling an add lib per se and throwing Seth with DB and giving Lesnar someone like Braun (only if he's winning the title)
Rollins could beat Lesnar and then the next night have Strowman wreck him and taunt Rollins into a match. Rollins, being a fighting champion, accepts and then he loses the belt. Afterwards you can do the Balor chase for a bit while Rollins goes to SDL.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 13, 2019 14:21:38 GMT -5
Agreed. He's been on Raw since the brand split a few years ago In a sense him and AJ have been the pillar of their shows but even AJ has gotten to show up on Raw (due to Bray illness) but both guys could use the new color brand
I think they might have been better off calling an add lib per se and throwing Seth with DB and giving Lesnar someone like Braun (only if he's winning the title)
Rollins could beat Lesnar and then the next night have Strowman wreck him and taunt Rollins into a match. Rollins, being a fighting champion, accepts and then he loses the belt. Afterwards you can do the Balor chase for a bit while Rollins goes to SDL. That could work but unlikely as WWE doesn't like to put guys in that type of position especially after winning Mania and it would be a "waste" especially if he beat Brock clean and then drops the title immediatly
Still say they should have had Balor win the Rumble and fight DB while Seth could have won an EC match or some shit to get Lesnar like they did with Roman. Just weird to see the Universal title not get much attention especially with Lesnar holding it
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Post by schma on Feb 13, 2019 14:24:53 GMT -5
I think a lot of the storylines for the six or seven months did him zero favours. Early last year he was lighting crowds on fire, putting on killer matches. Then Roman won the title and so the Shield had to reform because Roman was getting booed. Dean had just returned a couple weeks earlier looking like a beast and was now pushed into Shield crony. So was Seth. Dean and Seth's feud this time around was bad. Seth's endless matches with Dolph and later Lashley did him zero favours as well. It's amazing how many top guys bad booking has hurt in the past year. You can add Strowman to that list. Drew may go that way. Perhaps Lashley (though some enjoy him with Lio Rush)
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