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Post by thegatewaydrug on Feb 14, 2019 20:36:02 GMT -5
There is no Virgil [wrestling superstar] without Ted Dibiase.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 14, 2019 21:12:12 GMT -5
EC3, in WWE. He is still Ethan Carter III, except we know he isn't rich and Dixie doesn't exist in WWE kayfabe. So he is somebody's nephew, who is 'rich.' What? Haven't they re-tooled him to where he's not rich, he's just better at everything? I heard Michael Cole blather some line about how "EC3 considers himself in the top 1% most talented athletes in the world" or some shit.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 15, 2019 9:43:05 GMT -5
Oh, I wouldn't say that. He worked quite a few promotors into maximum payoff/minimum effort! Which makes him one of the smartest people in wrestling.
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Post by Bad Moon on Feb 15, 2019 10:31:50 GMT -5
Xavier Woods before the New Day was just a geek and the New Day without Xavier Woods would have sunk like a lead balloon.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 15, 2019 10:38:54 GMT -5
EC3, in WWE. He is still Ethan Carter III, except we know he isn't rich and Dixie doesn't exist in WWE kayfabe. So he is somebody's nephew, who is 'rich.' What? Haven't they re-tooled him to where he's not rich, he's just better at everything? I heard Michael Cole blather some line about how "EC3 considers himself in the top 1% most talented athletes in the world" or some shit. They had Alexa say she heard he had a HUGE... bank account, but he didn't really get any time to confirm or deny that before Nia and Dean interrupted.
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Post by ronnie2hotty on Feb 15, 2019 10:45:38 GMT -5
Just hire an actress, given I really have zero desire to see her get rewarded for her shit. Pretty much,you could just have him be a rich douche which his mother/aunt paid for him to get in WWE. If not Dixie Carter, then they need to bring in Jimmy Carter. The One-Percenter idea could be the people who thought he was a good president. EC3 = Elected Chieftain the Third.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 15, 2019 12:30:48 GMT -5
Pretty much,you could just have him be a rich douche which his mother/aunt paid for him to get in WWE. If not Dixie Carter, then they need to bring in Jimmy Carter. The One-Percenter idea could be the people who thought he was a good president. EC3 = Elected Chieftain the Third. You may want to read up on what Jimmy was about.
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Post by Main Eventer on Feb 15, 2019 12:33:31 GMT -5
Harper and Rowan without Wyatt Also Wyatt without any followers. What good is a crazy cult leader without a cult?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 15, 2019 12:45:29 GMT -5
Vince Gerard outside of CHIKARA. After he was forced to unmask as Equinox, Vin was white hot there as an outcast. He started getting bookings other places but without the backstory in CHIKARA about why he was an outcast...
Actually this can be said about any Chikara wrestler as very few were able to get over outside of Chikara without switching to a completely different gimmick
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Feb 15, 2019 13:27:18 GMT -5
Samuel Shaw without Christie Hemme to stalk.
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Post by malloc on Feb 15, 2019 14:29:22 GMT -5
Oh, I wouldn't say that. He worked quite a few promotors into maximum payoff/minimum effort! Which makes him one of the smartest people in wrestling. "There is only two things real in this business, the money and the miles"
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 15, 2019 15:19:17 GMT -5
There is no Virgil [wrestling superstar] without Ted Dibiase. I believe you mean Ted DiBaise.
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 15, 2019 15:35:50 GMT -5
Conquistador #2 would have had some trouble as a solo act.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 15, 2019 22:40:01 GMT -5
I was also going to say that there have been convict characters before and after that didn't rely in a law enforcement foil. But come on, Nailz was cutting a promo on Bossman in some Indy in the mid 90s (he was probably Bubba in WCW at the time)
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Feb 15, 2019 23:05:47 GMT -5
Vince Gerard outside of CHIKARA. After he was forced to unmask as Equinox, Vin was white hot there as an outcast. He started getting bookings other places but without the backstory in CHIKARA about why he was an outcast... Actually this can be said about any Chikara wrestler as very few were able to get over outside of Chikara without switching to a completely different gimmick To be fair, that was the whole reason why Chikara was started as a promotion. It gets trainees time to get experience without exposing them to the general public due to being under a hood or having an outlandish gimmick.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 16, 2019 2:52:02 GMT -5
A lot of parody and family member ones don't really work without their original focus.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 16, 2019 4:38:32 GMT -5
Harper and Rowan without Wyatt I feel like they could and really should work without him, but WWE kept reforming the group so now nobody gets invested because they're waiting for another reformation. Though Bludgeon Bros. was pretty wack, I'll admit.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 16, 2019 5:44:30 GMT -5
Kane.
Don’t @ me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 21:38:24 GMT -5
Luke Harper could absolutely work as a lone crazed creep. His IC title run was fun. Dare I say it... he could be a new Undertaker in terms of his style.
I hated his small face run in 2017... that sucked so hard man. He was talking like a regular guy and he had a top knot. The Bludgeon Brothers was a bit of a step up but not much. I want original Luke Harper back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 21:42:12 GMT -5
Introduction, sure. A lot of the original Kane gimmick was “He’s The Undertaker’s Brother” However I feel in the mid 2000s, he got past all that and shone on his own. His original unmasking was spectacular. The chains, the promos, the security guards... everything about this was awesome. None of that had anything to do with him being Taker’s “brother”... he was just a monster. Anyway, they’ve destroyed Kane way too many times for me to ever be interested in seeing him wrestle again. I feel like the comedy bits killed him... if you’re gonna do comedy stuff with Kane, make it “dark humor” like electrocuting Shane’s testicles.... don’t have him doing spinaroonies and trombones.
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