Say what you will about Jericho...(AEW)

[Larryhausen]

But dudes name is definitely helping with word of mouth

Over the past month or so I've had a bunch of casual or lapsed fans ask me about AEW, and telling me they're super stoked about it, despite Jericho being the only name they recognize.

Just based on that, I'm calling it a brilliant move by all around to get him on board. It seems to be doing what it was meant to do.

[lionheart21]

Jericho's been on TV since 1995, he's definitely a big name to get, both for talent and for name recognition. And with him always wanting to evolve even at this stage at his career, him pairing with what is arguably the hottest indy fed (despite not having run any shows yet) just makes sense.

[Mozenrath]

Yeah, Jericho's a guy who commands attention. Just keep him off of twitter late-nights, and he's fine.

[Larryhausen]

Feb 14, 2019 0:08:50 GMT -5 lionheart21 said:

Jericho's been on TV since 1995, he's definitely a big name to get, both for talent and for name recognition. And with him always wanting to evolve even at this stage at his career, him pairing with what is arguably the hottest indy fed (despite not having run any shows yet) just makes sense.

Exactly. The people I'm talking about haven't kept up with WWE or any Indies in years, and all of the sudden they're coming out of the woodwork.

[lionheart21]

Feb 14, 2019 0:23:53 GMT -5 Larryhausen said:

Feb 14, 2019 0:08:50 GMT -5 lionheart21 said:

Jericho's been on TV since 1995, he's definitely a big name to get, both for talent and for name recognition. And with him always wanting to evolve even at this stage at his career, him pairing with what is arguably the hottest indy fed (despite not having run any shows yet) just makes sense.

Exactly. The people I'm talking about haven't kept up with WWE or any Indies in years, and all of the sudden they're coming out of the woodwork.

They play this right, and they stand to come out big since this shows that they can pick up even the lapsed wrestling fans.

[Final Countdown Jones]

It may be lost now in how we've seen him portrayed as a midcarder who shows up to put guys over on short runs for the past many years, but Jericho was on TV during the past period that wrestling was cool, and that counts for something. In spite of his general behavior he's also an all-time great. Makes perfect sense to use him, and he gets the added benefit of being treated like a big deal somewhere again. He's done some good stuff in New Japan, there's no reason not to let him keep doing that and reaffirm his legacy at his age and with all the baggage of every time he opens his mouth

[corndog]

His match with Kenny really spiked interest in New Japan. The New Japan World subscription rate went from around 60,000 and spiked past 100,000 subscribers due to their Wrestle Kingdom match. He is a draw and a name that can bring interest to any wrestling company.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

That what I said in other threads because people kept saying they need to sign a "name" like Batista to have that "Hogan" guy to draw interest from fans. The thing is Jericho IS that guy as like when he first came to NJPW to now, everything he done fans been drawn to. The biggest thing compared to everyone else brought up that he can give you a great match. The fact in under 30 mins Double or Nothing sold out, with the matches announced shows that they really don't need that "Hogan" factor. There was a reason why Kenny Omega was such a big deal when he was a free agent and why everyone wanted him. AEW won that bidding war but there was a reason why the WWE was willing to offer reportedly him so much. AEW just needs to keep putting on matches fans want to see and they should do well. Double or Nothing selling out as quickly as they did is the best start any company could ask for and something no new company in recent years ever done.

TNA never sold out any event in that period of time even as it's peek years if ever sold out period. GFW never did it and was GIVENING away tickets for there Vegas shows. The fact ROH/NJPW joint show sold out MSG. Shows that you don't REALLY need a big time WWE guys lining your roster to work.

[corndog]

Feb 14, 2019 11:51:55 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

That what I said in other threads because people kept saying they need to sign a "name" like Batista to have that "Hogan" guy to draw interest from fans. The thing is Jericho IS that guy as like when he first came to NJPW to now, everything he done fans been drawn to. The biggest thing compared to everyone else brought up that he can give you a great match. The fact in under 30 mins Double or Nothing sold out, with the matches announced shows that they really don't need that "Hogan" factor. There was a reason why Kenny Omega was such a big deal when he was a free agent and why everyone wanted him. AEW won that bidding war but there was a reason why the WWE was willing to offer reportedly him so much. AEW just needs to keep putting on matches fans want to see and they should do well. Double or Nothing selling out as quickly as they did is the best start any company could ask for and something no new company in recent years ever done.

TNA never sold out any event in that period of time even as it's peek years if ever sold out period. GFW never did it and was GIVENING away tickets for there Vegas shows. The fact ROH/NJPW joint show sold out MSG. Shows that you don't REALLY need a big time WWE guys lining your roster to work.

There is certainly interest in AEW and it's true you don't need a big time WWE guy to do well. Although I think with Batista's success in Hollywood, I think he could bring in non-fans, casual fans that haven't been into wrestling since the Attitude era. But I think AEW could do it without a name like Batista, instead producing wrestling that attracts the same audience of that era. The WWE helped produce a wrestling boom by creating their own stars, Austin and Foley were midcarders before they joined the WWE and became top stars.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

Feb 14, 2019 12:04:27 GMT -5 corndog said:

Feb 14, 2019 11:51:55 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

That what I said in other threads because people kept saying they need to sign a "name" like Batista to have that "Hogan" guy to draw interest from fans. The thing is Jericho IS that guy as like when he first came to NJPW to now, everything he done fans been drawn to. The biggest thing compared to everyone else brought up that he can give you a great match. The fact in under 30 mins Double or Nothing sold out, with the matches announced shows that they really don't need that "Hogan" factor. There was a reason why Kenny Omega was such a big deal when he was a free agent and why everyone wanted him. AEW won that bidding war but there was a reason why the WWE was willing to offer reportedly him so much. AEW just needs to keep putting on matches fans want to see and they should do well. Double or Nothing selling out as quickly as they did is the best start any company could ask for and something no new company in recent years ever done.

TNA never sold out any event in that period of time even as it's peek years if ever sold out period. GFW never did it and was GIVENING away tickets for there Vegas shows. The fact ROH/NJPW joint show sold out MSG. Shows that you don't REALLY need a big time WWE guys lining your roster to work.

There is certainly interest in AEW and it's true you don't need a big time WWE guy to do well. Although I think with Batista's success in Hollywood, I think he could bring in non-fans, casual fans that haven't been into wrestling since the Attitude era. But I think AEW could do it without a name like Batista, instead producing wrestling that attracts the same audience of that era. The WWE helped produce a wrestling boom by creating their own stars, Austin and Foley were midcarders before they joined the WWE and became top stars.

Batista would only bring in non fans. Casual fans they haven't watched since the Attitude era isn't going to know Batista since he came in after attitude, just like Cena. Jericho is more that guy for that group than Batista since he was there in the middle of it during that time. AEW I think is going that route more creating new big time players. Hangman Page seems to be one there looking to do that with. Omega as another guy that will become more mainstream in the North American market. It does depends on who you view it on what makes it a casual fan. Example Mario Lopez is he known as a big wrestling fan? That I don't know but he just before AEW has there ticket sale launch party, tweeted a clip of Sonny Kiss wanting to see more of his work. So Sonny Kiss already gotten attention from a Celebrity, while very small but still got it.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

He’s a recognizable name from the attitude era, I’m not surprised.

I think he’s using this opportunity to prove Vince wrong, that he can still be a top guy.

[corndog]

Feb 14, 2019 12:26:29 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

Feb 14, 2019 12:04:27 GMT -5 corndog said:

There is certainly interest in AEW and it's true you don't need a big time WWE guy to do well. Although I think with Batista's success in Hollywood, I think he could bring in non-fans, casual fans that haven't been into wrestling since the Attitude era. But I think AEW could do it without a name like Batista, instead producing wrestling that attracts the same audience of that era. The WWE helped produce a wrestling boom by creating their own stars, Austin and Foley were midcarders before they joined the WWE and became top stars.

Batista would only bring in non fans. Casual fans they haven't watched since the Attitude era isn't going to know Batista since he came in after attitude, just like Cena. Jericho is more that guy for that group than Batista since he was there in the middle of it during that time. AEW I think is going that route more creating new big time players. Hangman Page seems to be one there looking to do that with. Omega as another guy that will become more mainstream in the North American market. It does depends on who you view it on what makes it a casual fan. Example Mario Lopez is he known as a big wrestling fan? That I don't know but he just before AEW has there ticket sale launch party, tweeted a clip of Sonny Kiss wanting to see more of his work. So Sonny Kiss already gotten attention from a Celebrity, while very small but still got it.

Good point, Batista is going to bring in non-fans, he was after the Attitude Era. But stuff like Mike Tyson brought in non-fans and then Austin hooked them. My point is getting the mainstream is key to major success, so it really just depends what level they want to get to. I already think they have enough to get disenfranchised fans and be a true alternative. However for wrestling to truly survive past this current era is bringing in new fans and I think AEW could be one of the last hopes to do so in the United States, as WWE is not bringing in new fans and alienating old ones.

[Chainsaw]

As was pointed out in the Double Or Nothing thread, this is definitely going to help.

Jericho is definitely a selling point for this company.

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Feb 14, 2019 0:23:53 GMT -5 Larryhausen said:

Feb 14, 2019 0:08:50 GMT -5 lionheart21 said:

Jericho's been on TV since 1995, he's definitely a big name to get, both for talent and for name recognition. And with him always wanting to evolve even at this stage at his career, him pairing with what is arguably the hottest indy fed (despite not having run any shows yet) just makes sense.

Exactly. The people I'm talking about haven't kept up with WWE or any Indies in years, and all of the sudden they're coming out of the woodwork.

Even though they haven't run their first show yet, as a wrestling fan it's a pretty cool time right now because of this.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

Feb 14, 2019 12:54:06 GMT -5 corndog said:

Feb 14, 2019 12:26:29 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

Batista would only bring in non fans. Casual fans they haven't watched since the Attitude era isn't going to know Batista since he came in after attitude, just like Cena. Jericho is more that guy for that group than Batista since he was there in the middle of it during that time. AEW I think is going that route more creating new big time players. Hangman Page seems to be one there looking to do that with. Omega as another guy that will become more mainstream in the North American market. It does depends on who you view it on what makes it a casual fan. Example Mario Lopez is he known as a big wrestling fan? That I don't know but he just before AEW has there ticket sale launch party, tweeted a clip of Sonny Kiss wanting to see more of his work. So Sonny Kiss already gotten attention from a Celebrity, while very small but still got it.

Good point, Batista is going to bring in non-fans, he was after the Attitude Era. But stuff like Mike Tyson brought in non-fans and then Austin hooked them. My point is getting the mainstream is key to major success, so it really just depends what level they want to get to. I already think they have enough to get disenfranchised fans and be a true alternative. However for wrestling to truly survive past this current era is bringing in new fans and I think AEW could be one of the last hopes to do so in the United States, as WWE is not bringing in new fans and alienating old ones.

The way I see it. IF the AEW in a lot of way a last hope to being that alternative if they don't succeed, if the things happened like rumored. If they get a legit major TV deal as for as network goes like a TBS and they don't have success, it will be hard for a very long time for any other wrestling company to have a chance. With how TNA and Spike went down, and since than no big network wanted wrestling outside of the WWE. So I see it as if AEW get that deal and they don't do well, wrestling overall will have taking a hard bad hit. However I don't see that happening because AEW so far done the right things and done things never happened before.

1. Creating a big buzz. Lets be honest when was the last time fans been this excited about wrestling in general but when AEW came from a rumor to legit. The buzz been unreal and something only All IN has had. It got fans excited and talking. A lot of it had to do with knowing the backing of of this, is a family worth more than Vince and gave us hope that anything is possible. Than the roster of great talent started coming together and fans was seeing more of what they wanted.

2. Selling out an arena like the MGM Grand is impressive regardless but for your first official show is even more impressive and doing it under 30 mins. So the word is clearing out to the fans in a big way. When you think back to when TNA first happened and going into there first show. They didn't have this kind of buzz nor did they sell out as quickly. ROH started the same year took a much different way to grow a brand. Successfully yes but they finally did a bigger venue with NJPW but as a stand alone, haven't gotten to MSG sized venues.

3. Coming off in a positive way to being more fan orientated. They flat out came out wanting to give any kind of wrestling fans something for them regardless of what your taste is. They also partnering up with other companies which is a positive for overall wrestling. Unlike being WWE who for years just wanted to kill anything that has anything they wanted.