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Post by dadez29 on Feb 15, 2019 23:14:42 GMT -5
He'll be good. He just needs to not wrestle anytime before the Lesnar match. Basically create the story that Rollins is studying Lesnar's matches, working in silence, getting ready with Lesnar's opponents (Ambrose, Balor, guys he's cool with) just to prepare but the reality is he's healing his back. Once he shows up at WM he'll be good to go. Hypothetically say his back's really hurt after the WM match you can just have him take some time off and say "Rollins is banged up after the match but he's still champion" and run with it. Becky will be running Raw at that point so hypothetically having a lead champion gone won't hurt too bad. I'm completely ok with lead guys not wrestling every single week. Having them take some weeks away from the ring is always nice and it adds to the spectacle of said wrestlers. They really look like superstars when you see that they're having a match that week. How wild is it, that the Becky/Ronda/Charlotte feud, has overshadowed Rollins/Lesner?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 23:32:00 GMT -5
I believe this is something all WWE stars should do once a year for a month or so. It'd keep things fresh and let these poor guys heal up. ideally they should take time off to AVOID injuries,not to heal then I've had this idea for a while now where the talent are on a rotating schedule of getting one month off from house shows every quarter. That way they still show up, still get their TV time, but it gives them rest from the road grind.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 15, 2019 23:36:17 GMT -5
Well, Seth and Brock have weak lower regions. Guess that makes it a lumbar jacked match. Hey, you only have to deal with me on this board. I have to live with myself 24/7. You're still fired. Again. Is there a way to suspend and fire someone at the same time?
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Feb 15, 2019 23:39:08 GMT -5
Have him lose to Lesnar. Honestly theres zero reason for him to win outside of it being a face beating a heel. He's total garbage as a face. Maybe the most brutal on the mic in recent memory. The guy should take time off, be a heel and go to Smackdown.
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Post by Rican on Feb 15, 2019 23:40:02 GMT -5
"Icy to dull the pain, Hot to BURN IT DOWN!" Shaq and Seth Rollins vs. Heyman and Lesnar the RAW after Mania confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 23:42:40 GMT -5
He'll be good. He just needs to not wrestle anytime before the Lesnar match. Basically create the story that Rollins is studying Lesnar's matches, working in silence, getting ready with Lesnar's opponents (Ambrose, Balor, guys he's cool with) just to prepare but the reality is he's healing his back. Once he shows up at WM he'll be good to go. Hypothetically say his back's really hurt after the WM match you can just have him take some time off and say "Rollins is banged up after the match but he's still champion" and run with it. Becky will be running Raw at that point so hypothetically having a lead champion gone won't hurt too bad. I'm completely ok with lead guys not wrestling every single week. Having them take some weeks away from the ring is always nice and it adds to the spectacle of said wrestlers. They really look like superstars when you see that they're having a match that week. How wild is it, that the Becky/Ronda/Charlotte feud, has overshadowed Rollins/Lesner? I'm not surprised. Lesnar's like wrestling cancer right now. Rollins is actually being dragged down by interacting with him. The quicker it's over the better. Becky/Ronda/Charlotte though, that is the mega-fresh. Best feud in the company and it's been the best feud this past year. I'd say if they don't overshadow it it'll be a problem because every part of the feud (sans the McMahons) is money. They need to main event WM. To Vince on the other hand, I heard he's still deciding which one will main event which is why we keep hearing Rollins saying he's main eventing with Lesnar.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 15, 2019 23:48:29 GMT -5
ideally they should take time off to AVOID injuries,not to heal then I've had this idea for a while now where the talent are on a rotating schedule of getting one month off from house shows every quarter. That way they still show up, still get their TV time, but it gives them rest from the road grind. It has benefits, though it'd also prevent some problems in terms of guys probably getting a cut in pay due to that, though the bigger problem is probably what Lance Storm's trepidation was on it, that a lot of wrestlers are the kind of people who would think, "I have time off, so I can take bigger risks and rest it off", and get more dangerous. Still, I think the potential benefits could be big.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 15, 2019 23:56:17 GMT -5
How wild is it, that the Becky/Ronda/Charlotte feud, has overshadowed Rollins/Lesner? I'm not surprised. Lesnar's like wrestling cancer right now. Rollins is actually being dragged down by interacting with him. The quicker it's over the better. Becky/Ronda/Charlotte though, that is the mega-fresh. Best feud in the company and it's been the best feud this past year. I'd say if they don't overshadow it it'll be a problem because every part of the feud (sans the McMahons) is money. They need to main event WM. To Vince on the other hand, I heard he's still deciding which main event one will main event which is why we keep hearing Rollins saying he's main eventing with Lesnar. Interesting point. Who has actually gained and not just got lost immediately afterward with him lately? The problem with losing to Brock, you're out of the title picture and unless they got some hot story for ya lined up then you're just lost in the sauce. Hell you're mostly lost before too because you gotta carry most of the story yourself. You have to be a strong promo guy and if you're not or if you have nothing but the same lines written for you time and time again, people are gonna get bored of you and sick with the build right there. Seth is in an unenviable position here and it's not his fault. This long term promo type game just isn't him so him vanishing for a bit might be the best thing so the crowd doesn't turn, aside from the physical healing aspect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 0:28:38 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. Lesnar's like wrestling cancer right now. Rollins is actually being dragged down by interacting with him. The quicker it's over the better. Becky/Ronda/Charlotte though, that is the mega-fresh. Best feud in the company and it's been the best feud this past year. I'd say if they don't overshadow it it'll be a problem because every part of the feud (sans the McMahons) is money. They need to main event WM. To Vince on the other hand, I heard he's still deciding which main event one will main event which is why we keep hearing Rollins saying he's main eventing with Lesnar. Interesting point. Who has actually gained and not just got lost immediately afterward with him lately? The problem with losing to Brock, you're out of the title picture and unless they got some hot story for ya lined up then you're just lost in the sauce. Hell you're mostly lost before too because you gotta carry most of the story yourself. You have to be a strong promo guy and if you're not or if you have nothing but the same lines written for you time and time again, people are gonna get bored of you and sick with the build right there. Seth is in an unenviable position here and it's not his fault. This long term promo type game just isn't him so him vanishing for a bit might be the best thing so the crowd doesn't turn, aside from the physical healing aspect. I'm really not sure because even Balor recently, a guy who looked well, went on to enter this boring Lashley feud. Lesnar just doesn't help people which is the biggest issue with him. Granted, guys might look good in a match against him at times but at the end of the day they lose and then they're doing something else. Ambrose, the first guy I noticed it with, went on SDL a few days later and randomly beat Tyler Breeze as if the Lesnar thing didn't even happen. For most of the others they're supposed to get this "Surviving Against Lesnar" Fallout perk or something but it doesn't do anyone any good. It's basically filler to have Brock in a match.
It's sad because I think if it were Roman guys would be in a better position. If it were Rollins guys would be better. I can see everyone being better because no one else is as booked as strong as Brock and they actually show up.
I do wonder how it'll be when Rollins is the guy beating people with the belt and I wonder how they'll depict the kind of champion he is. We'll see.
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Post by schma on Feb 16, 2019 4:34:46 GMT -5
He'll be good. He just needs to not wrestle anytime before the Lesnar match. Basically create the story that Rollins is studying Lesnar's matches, working in silence, getting ready with Lesnar's opponents (Ambrose, Balor, guys he's cool with) just to prepare but the reality is he's healing his back. Once he shows up at WM he'll be good to go. Hypothetically say his back's really hurt after the WM match you can just have him take some time off and say "Rollins is banged up after the match but he's still champion" and run with it. Becky will be running Raw at that point so hypothetically having a lead champion gone won't hurt too bad. I'm completely ok with lead guys not wrestling every single week. Having them take some weeks away from the ring is always nice and it adds to the spectacle of said wrestlers. They really look like superstars when you see that they're having a match that week. Really having a leading champion gone even if it's Seth will be familiar since that is pretty much Brock's reigns in a nutshell. Absentee champion. Give Seth the belt, let him get healthy while The Man takes care of things and when he comes back, Raw can have a top title again (well two if Becky has the belt).
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 16, 2019 4:44:05 GMT -5
ideally they should take time off to AVOID injuries,not to heal then I've had this idea for a while now where the talent are on a rotating schedule of getting one month off from house shows every quarter. That way they still show up, still get their TV time, but it gives them rest from the road grind. That's probably the best compromise in terms of allowing the talents to rest, and not completely butchering the TV product in terms of the audience picking up on the rotating absences and going "OK, well, my favourite talent is gone for three months, I'll stop watching RAW until they come back". They've already sort of done that as it is with the part-timer thing of the last few years.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 16, 2019 5:03:01 GMT -5
"Icy to dull the pain, Hot to BURN IT DOWN!" From someone who injured his lower back recently those things are terrible... they only seem to stick to themselves.
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Post by beefy on Feb 16, 2019 5:32:57 GMT -5
VINCE: What’s that? Seth is injured? Well, we can’t have a world champion who’s too injured to defend the belt after Mania....
...just leave the belt on Lesnar! WRESTLEMANIA!!
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 16, 2019 5:43:44 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. Lesnar's like wrestling cancer right now. Rollins is actually being dragged down by interacting with him. The quicker it's over the better. Becky/Ronda/Charlotte though, that is the mega-fresh. Best feud in the company and it's been the best feud this past year. I'd say if they don't overshadow it it'll be a problem because every part of the feud (sans the McMahons) is money. They need to main event WM. To Vince on the other hand, I heard he's still deciding which main event one will main event which is why we keep hearing Rollins saying he's main eventing with Lesnar. Interesting point. Who has actually gained and not just got lost immediately afterward with him lately? The problem with losing to Brock, you're out of the title picture and unless they got some hot story for ya lined up then you're just lost in the sauce. Hell you're mostly lost before too because you gotta carry most of the story yourself. You have to be a strong promo guy and if you're not or if you have nothing but the same lines written for you time and time again, people are gonna get bored of you and sick with the build right there. Seth is in an unenviable position here and it's not his fault. This long term promo type game just isn't him so him vanishing for a bit might be the best thing so the crowd doesn't turn, aside from the physical healing aspect. I feel like a guy like Seth would really benefit from vignettes more than straight promos, especially if they're trying to pump him up as having a chance against Brock. Dude lives to work out, so throw together some montages with that, along with him giving a voice over about coming back from his messed up knee, having to see one friend benched and another out the door, and how he'll seize the opportunity or whatever. Not live, so they can do another take if it sounds like crap. Air those, have him get some R&R, and it'd do a shitload more for him than trying to cut promos in the ring where Heyman would probably make him look like an asshole even while handling him with kid gloves.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 5:47:04 GMT -5
Interesting point. Who has actually gained and not just got lost immediately afterward with him lately? The problem with losing to Brock, you're out of the title picture and unless they got some hot story for ya lined up then you're just lost in the sauce. Hell you're mostly lost before too because you gotta carry most of the story yourself. You have to be a strong promo guy and if you're not or if you have nothing but the same lines written for you time and time again, people are gonna get bored of you and sick with the build right there. Seth is in an unenviable position here and it's not his fault. This long term promo type game just isn't him so him vanishing for a bit might be the best thing so the crowd doesn't turn, aside from the physical healing aspect. I feel like a guy like Seth would really benefit from vignettes more than straight promos, especially if they're trying to pump him up as having a chance against Brock. Dude lives to work out, so throw together some montages with that, along with him giving a voice over about coming back from his messed up knee, having to see one friend benched and another out the door, and how he'll seize the opportunity or whatever. Not live, so they can do another take if it sounds like crap. Air those, have him get some R&R, and it'd do a shitload more for him than trying to cut promos in the ring where Heyman would probably make him look like an asshole even while handling him with kid gloves. Seth going the Mustafa Ali route for his promos during the Lesnar build would be pretty cool.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 16, 2019 5:50:14 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. Lesnar's like wrestling cancer right now. Rollins is actually being dragged down by interacting with him. The quicker it's over the better. Becky/Ronda/Charlotte though, that is the mega-fresh. Best feud in the company and it's been the best feud this past year. I'd say if they don't overshadow it it'll be a problem because every part of the feud (sans the McMahons) is money. They need to main event WM. To Vince on the other hand, I heard he's still deciding which main event one will main event which is why we keep hearing Rollins saying he's main eventing with Lesnar. Interesting point. Who has actually gained and not just got lost immediately afterward with him lately?The problem with losing to Brock, you're out of the title picture and unless they got some hot story for ya lined up then you're just lost in the sauce. Hell you're mostly lost before too because you gotta carry most of the story yourself. You have to be a strong promo guy and if you're not or if you have nothing but the same lines written for you time and time again, people are gonna get bored of you and sick with the build right there. Seth is in an unenviable position here and it's not his fault. This long term promo type game just isn't him so him vanishing for a bit might be the best thing so the crowd doesn't turn, aside from the physical healing aspect. Sad thing is, they had the perfect storyline for somebody to gain from fighting Brock, and that would be Finn Balor. He went right after Brock, took it to him like nobody has since Goldberg, and you could have written it as the attack afterwards being Brock wanting to make sure Finn was down, because he doesn't want to face him again. They could have given us Beast vs Demon, and that would have been a good story. What's even the story to Brock vs Seth? Give us something, outside of good wrestler wins the Rumble and wants Brock, who has already kicked the shit out of him. Hell, that Raw after the Rumble, they should have let Seth hit Brock with a curb stomp or something.
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