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Post by schma on Feb 17, 2019 23:40:26 GMT -5
This is how you do strong in defeat. Between this and his gauntlet match, the guy has tons of momentum. Someone else mentioned at one point that New Day would be a fantastic focus for the New Daniel Bryan given that they would represent so much of what he hates. They've done a good job of hammering home that Kofi is a seasoned veteran, a highly decorated veteran and a guy who more than once has been on the cusp of winning the top title (despite not having any one on one matches?). Really, a part of me wonders if Ali's injury has led to WWE actually adapting to an unexpected situation for once and will give Kofi a chance at the title. Right now I think it'd be a great choice.
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Post by robferatu on Feb 17, 2019 23:41:18 GMT -5
Tbh, it needs to main event WM. Kofi winning the title at WM would be a very memorable moment(like when DB won in 2014). Nah Becky (and to extent Ronda) are still bigger stars for mania. Not to disrespect Kofi but he as of right now is not at Becky's position. Agreed. Becky Lynch is clearly the most over face in the company, a lot of Kingston's reaction/over-ness is out of respect and the feeling that "he deserves this moment," but in terms of just being red-hot over, Lynch has be carrying the torch since "Survivor Series" If they go with Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Championship at "Wrestlemania XXV," which I sincerely hope they do, it'll be middle-of-the-card at best, and likely would open the show... Which I don't mind, just as long as they go with it and pull the trigger on putting the title on Kingston. Someone touched on this earlier, card placement for matches only matter in terms of the pay window for wrestlers, as a fan I don't really care where a match is at on the card just as long as it's the best possible match it can be. I feel like in more recent years in the WWE the opening match is often the hottest of the night, and just as often the best. |
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Post by Shai on Feb 17, 2019 23:41:58 GMT -5
Give DB another goon and let from now till Mania be New Day fully focused on Kofi being Champ. That story has been ready for over a year Xavier and Big E been saying since the beginning that part of New Days mission is for Kofi to get his due.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Feb 17, 2019 23:43:45 GMT -5
Nope. We all didn't want that. Many of us were saying Kofi in other threads. Ali will get his time, he just needs time to grind a bit. Won't be surprised if he's champion at the end of next year's WM. Yup. Ali's cool, but he doesn't have the career and genuine love from folks that Kofi does right now. When you've got an 11 year underdog story and everyone is going apeshit for it, you don't throw it aside. If WWE decides to strike while the proverbial iron is at its proverbial hotness, they'd be doing something they've been eternally (and often rightly) blasted for not doing. I fail to see how that would be a bad thing at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:44:13 GMT -5
Nope. We all didn't want that. Many of us were saying Kofi in other threads. Ali will get his time, he just needs time to grind a bit. Won't be surprised if he's champion at the end of next year's WM. Yup. Ali's cool, but he doesn't have the career and genuine love from folks that Kofi does right now. When you've got an 11 year underdog story and everyone is going apeshit for it, you don't throw it aside. Exactly. Those stories are hard to come by and besides Ali's story right now is the beginning of an underdog story. He'll get the title eventually but he needs to be in the trenches a bit. Give him a midcard run, set him up for WM next year hell you can even have him beat Kofi at Fastlane 2020 for the chance to face whoever's champion. There's a lot of ways to do it but right now Kofi's just got something special. And that's funny to me because this happened in 6 days. They turned midcard silly having fun Kofi Kingston into a main eventer in 6 damn days. Yeah part of it is because he's loved, he's grinded and he had time but at the same time that's 6 days. This is just so damn special. I was tearing up at the end of that chamber match no bullshit. Ali's cool and all but hey I cried for Kofi. I TEARED UP FOR KOFI! Nah Becky (and to extent Ronda) are still bigger stars for mania. Not to disrespect Kofi but he as of right now is not at Becky's position. Agreed. Becky Lynch is clearly the most over face in the company, a lot of Kingston's reaction/over-ness is out of respect and the feeling that "he deserves this moment," but in terms of just being red-hot over, Lynch has be carrying the torch since "Survivor Series" If they go with Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Championship at "Wrestlemania XXV," which I sincerely hope they do, it'll be middle-of-the-card at best, and likely would open the show... Which I don't mind, just as long as they go with it and pull the trigger on putting the title on Kingston. Someone touched on this earlier, card placement for matches only matter in terms of the pay window for wrestlers, as a fan I don't really care where a match is at on the card just as long as it's the best possible match it can be. I feel like in more recent years in the WWE the opening match is often the hottest of the night, and just as often the best. Depending on how long WM is it'll probably be at the end of the first act of WM so it won't be in the first hour nor will it open the show but it'll be the end of that first act which makes sense. There's other titles that take priority over it but it's still the lead title. AJ/Orton will probably crack open the show tbh. |
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Post by RI Richmark on Feb 17, 2019 23:44:15 GMT -5
Didn’t we all want Bryan vs. Ali as recently as last week? Nope. We all didn't want that. Many of us were saying Kofi in other threads. Ali will get his time, he just needs time to grind a bit. Won't be surprised if he's champion at the end of next year's WM. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 17, 2019 23:45:42 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I'll be waiting for who the new "He has to get his shot at Wrestlemania and get the belt RIGHT NOW or nothing will ever be okay again!" guy is next week. It seems to change that quickly around here.
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Post by Shark on Feb 17, 2019 23:47:21 GMT -5
I know this would have been Ali's spot, but I don't know that Ali would have had the crowd like Kofi had it tonight. He would have had the crowd, but people were just waiting to blow the roof off if Kofi had won. Kofi has an advantage because they can point to his 11 years in the company and finally reaching this point. Ali has an amazing story, but he's been on Smackdown all of 6 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:48:15 GMT -5
Kofi has surprised me in the last week with his performances and if done correctly which it has been so far if he wins the belt eventually it will be a real feel good moment in a company devoid of them.I like that they didn’t just put the belt on him after one good performance on SDL cause it needs to be built he’s been with this company for 11 years and minus a few weeks with Orton he has been a career midcarder and the last 5 years he’s been a tag guy in a company that doesn’t care about tag teams.It’s very encouraging that the fans care about him in this position but this type of story works best as a slow build of him getting focused,putting on great performances and coming close but not getting it until he finally puts it all together and accomplishes his goal.I also like that Xavier & E are rooting him on and still his friends there’s no reason to have anyone turn I hope wwe realizes that in 2019 it’s okay to have friends.
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Post by Rican on Feb 17, 2019 23:50:47 GMT -5
I know this would have been Ali's spot, but I don't know that Ali would have had the crowd like Kofi had it tonight. He would have had the crowd, but people were just waiting to blow the roof off if Kofi had won. Kofi has an advantage because they can point to his 11 years in the company and finally reaching this point. Ali has an amazing story, but he's been on Smackdown all of 6 weeks. This says what I wanted to so much better than I could. |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 17, 2019 23:51:34 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I'll be waiting for who the new "He has to get his shot at Wrestlemania and get the belt RIGHT NOW or nothing will ever be okay again!" guy is next week. It seems to change that quickly around here. You're free to leave if you're so far above this place or the opinions expressed here. Kinda over passive aggressive flamebaiting to be honest. |
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Post by Shai on Feb 17, 2019 23:52:14 GMT -5
Ali has plenty of time to shine. This...almost reversal of Daniel's own story with Daniel now the heel is too Damn perfect. They HAVE to follow through.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 17, 2019 23:59:20 GMT -5
Exactly so strike while the iron is red hot Let's stop comparing him to Santino cause this ain't it Nobody is projecting Kofi as a long term champ but a transitional reign is perfect for him even if he gives it back to DB, his story is at an apex right now and something WWE could strike on
What "story"? "The other dude got hurt so here I am" isn't a story. It's like I said, he's had a hot month and some focus. Nothing to lose our shit over. He's in Ali's spot, that's all this is. What story? It's Kofi Kingston. He's been here over 11 years, pretty consistently over no matter his situation, been IC champ/US champ/tag champ many times over, and has gotten small chances in the form of his Rumble theatrics/MITB appearances. Yet not one time has he ever had a big chance to be the guy, so he has never had a singles match in his life at Mania, nor has he gotten the hype all these other guys coming up have. But this time he finally sees his shot and fully runs with it. That's it, that's the story. What more do you need? Brock vs a Shield member for the 4th Mania in a row? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 0:02:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I read from Wrestlevotes that because Kofi impressed those backstage (and the fans) with his SDL performance that an opportunity has opened for him and mind you that was before tonight. Kofi took Ali's position and leveled up which is what happened and on that same token Ali's entire WWE career has been built on him being a fill-in but he made due with it, same as Kofi. What started as a spot with Ali has turned into something else for Kofi.
Bryan/Kofi just makes sense at Wrestlemania. Kofi doesn't have to win at WM, he can win the next night on SDL, he can win at the next ppv but it does make sense and it would be great if Kofi did win.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2019 0:06:16 GMT -5
I know this would have been Ali's spot, but I don't know that Ali would have had the crowd like Kofi had it tonight. He would have had the crowd, but people were just waiting to blow the roof off if Kofi had won. Kofi has an advantage because they can point to his 11 years in the company and finally reaching this point. Ali has an amazing story, but he's been on Smackdown all of 6 weeks. Yea, Ali would been great here but the years Kofi has on his belt is what puts this over the top. Kofi has years of goodwill built up and is a decorated champ in his own right. The fans see this opportunity for what it is, a potential one shot deal for Kofi to make it big and they are fully behind him |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 18, 2019 0:09:52 GMT -5
What "story"? "The other dude got hurt so here I am" isn't a story. It's like I said, he's had a hot month and some focus. Nothing to lose our shit over. He's in Ali's spot, that's all this is. What story? It's Kofi Kingston. He's been here over 11 years, pretty consistently over no matter his situation, been IC champ/US champ/tag champ many times over, and has gotten small chances in the form of his Rumble theatrics/MITB appearances. Yet not one time has he ever had a big chance to be the guy, so he has never had a singles match in his life at Mania, nor has he gotten the hype all these other guys coming up have. But this time he finally sees his shot and fully runs with it. That's it, that's the story. What more do you need? Brock vs a Shield member for the 4th Mania in a row? Oh wow never a WM 1v1? That's another on the pile then for the "overlooked" theme because he's seemingly never had a 1v1 title shot either, even on a throw away SD or some such. In kayfabe all he has to say is "and you've never even given me a chance" because it's true. |
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Feb 18, 2019 0:15:59 GMT -5
I'm not trying to hear this "not everyone needs to be champ" talk when Ziggler, Swagger, Sheamus, and freakin ADR are all former champs.
Kofi will NOT be measuring stick for that. Use Corbin.
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Post by Larryhausen on Feb 18, 2019 0:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2019 0:17:47 GMT -5
Exactly so strike while the iron is red hot
Let's stop comparing him to Santino cause this ain't it
Nobody is projecting Kofi as a long term champ but a transitional reign is perfect for him even if he gives it back to DB, his story is at an apex right now and something WWE could strike on
What "story"? "The other dude got hurt so here I am" isn't a story. It's like I said, he's had a hot month and some focus. Nothing to lose our shit over. He's in Ali's spot, that's all this is. Dude, you really are missing the mark with this one as you've already been told plenty of times. People thinking this is "A hot month" are really ignoring the great work Kofi put in every night for the past 11 years. That's your story, the fact the dude has worked, with MINIMAL chances in that decade, to get to this chance, and what might be the only chance in his career. That mentality of "Not everyone needs to be champion" needs to die, ANYONE can become WWE Champion, and in the immortal words of Dusty Rhodes, if you're not in wrestling with the belief that you can work hard enough to become champion, then "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOIN IT FOR!?" |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2019 0:20:32 GMT -5
What story? It's Kofi Kingston. He's been here over 11 years, pretty consistently over no matter his situation, been IC champ/US champ/tag champ many times over, and has gotten small chances in the form of his Rumble theatrics/MITB appearances. Yet not one time has he ever had a big chance to be the guy, so he has never had a singles match in his life at Mania, nor has he gotten the hype all these other guys coming up have. But this time he finally sees his shot and fully runs with it. That's it, that's the story. What more do you need? Brock vs a Shield member for the 4th Mania in a row? Oh wow never a WM 1v1? That's another on the pile then for the "overlooked" theme because he's seemingly never had a 1v1 title shot either, even on a throw away SD or some such. In kayfabe all he has to say is "and you've never even given me a chance" because it's true. The set up is as easy as can be, with Kofi saying he's never had a shot or been given a chance but his time to prove himself is now. DB can easily switch flip into the arrogant asshole who looks down on Kofi and his way of living (sunshine, pancakes and all that BS)
The barebones of it at the end of the day is i'm finally getting my shot and you're going to have to kill me to beat me
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