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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 20, 2019 20:58:01 GMT -5
Had to make the title like that to fit it lol, but one thing I noticed that kind of bothered me is that besides Seth’s initial promo, The initial heel turn from Seth was never mentioned. Not by Dean nor the commentators. Sure Dean doing it the night Roman announced he had cancer justified Rollins being mad, but they could of gone farther with it, either by saying Dean never trusted Seth or that he was just teaming up with him because of Roman and he never really gave a f*** about Seth.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 20, 2019 20:59:47 GMT -5
It's probably not the best thing in the world to remind someone of too much when flipping the alignments, especially with Dean being really popular as a face beforehand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 21:21:39 GMT -5
Becky brought it up in a tweet, but on TV they never even mentioned Charlotte turning on Becky a couple years back during their feud. Drove me nuts.
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Post by The Trashman on Feb 20, 2019 21:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 21, 2019 0:04:25 GMT -5
I swear it’s been part of Seth’s character for 4 years up until the dean fued lol |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 21, 2019 0:05:05 GMT -5
It's probably not the best thing in the world to remind someone of too much when flipping the alignments, especially with Dean being really popular as a face beforehand. Could be one of those situations where you do a friend bogus, they forgive you but then they either keep bringing up the past or f*** you over even harder |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Feb 21, 2019 0:26:50 GMT -5
Probably the same reason why we didn't acknowledge that HHH vs Undertaker had happened at WM before, but never once was it mentioned, and they acted like it was the first time it was happening.
Vince is bad at storytelling to the point of being insulting to our intelligence.
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Post by trollrogue on Feb 21, 2019 1:34:03 GMT -5
It was interesting, tonight I think Dean alluded to it in his promo after jobbing to Drew. He interrupted Seth's 'Mania-hype promo and asked 'Where were you Seth??" as if one run-in save from Dean made everything alright between the two of them. Logically-- it does-- Seth betrayed Dean first, then Dean betrayed Seth. But then they both did run-in saves for the other to make-up for the betrayal.
Dean's the only one who understands WWE canon
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Post by KobashiChop on Feb 21, 2019 7:28:08 GMT -5
Because the writing staff are sitcom writers that aren't good enough to be working in sitcoms so this kind of lack of attention to detail is pretty standard.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Feb 21, 2019 8:01:52 GMT -5
Because...
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Post by 111111 on Feb 21, 2019 9:44:33 GMT -5
Because most people watching don't even remember what happened last week let alone 3 years ago (if they were even watching then)
People on boards like this with hyper memory of every single match and promo are the exception not the majority.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 21, 2019 9:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 21, 2019 9:59:53 GMT -5
It's probably not the best thing in the world to remind someone of too much when flipping the alignments, especially with Dean being really popular as a face beforehand. I think it's the opposite case; it depens their history knowing what they've been through. The emotional backbone of Dean turning on Seth relies on the redemption story from a year earlier, where Seth's betrayal was explicitly the emotional obstacle they had to overcome. If Seth had betrayed anyone else then I get omitting it unless there was a parallel there to be played on, but this was a direct betrayal and there's no reason to leave it out and not use it to deepen the complexity of the emotional stakes in play. Because most people watching don't even remember what happened last week let alone 3 years ago (if they were even watching then) People on boards like this with hyper memory of every single match and promo are the exception not the majority. Man this is just wrong in all directions. Of course people remember how The Shield broke up, that's not something only known or cared about by hardcore fans, that was the dissolution of one of the most dominant factions in WWE history, with three guys who have not only remained huge deals, but interconnected this whole time. The betrayal made for the point of Seth's long heel turn and the backbone of Seth's redemption story in 2017. If nobody remembered The Shield that badly, there would be no pop for them reuniting like there was. Come on dude, WWE already insults its fans intelligence weekly, we don't need people throwing fuel onto that fire. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 21, 2019 10:08:24 GMT -5
It's probably not the best thing in the world to remind someone of too much when flipping the alignments, especially with Dean being really popular as a face beforehand. I think it's the opposite case; it depens their history knowing what they've been through. The emotional backbone of Dean turning on Seth relies on the redemption story from a year earlier, where Seth's betrayal was explicitly the emotional obstacle they had to overcome. If Seth had betrayed anyone else then I get omitting it unless there was a parallel there to be played on, but this was a direct betrayal and there's no reason to leave it out and not use it to deepen the complexity of the emotional stakes in play. Because most people watching don't even remember what happened last week let alone 3 years ago (if they were even watching then) People on boards like this with hyper memory of every single match and promo are the exception not the majority. Man this is just wrong in all directions. Of course people remember how The Shield broke up, that's not something only known or cared about by hardcore fans, that was the dissolution of one of the most dominant factions in WWE history, with three guys who have not only remained huge deals, but interconnected this whole time. The betrayal made for the point of Seth's long heel turn and the backbone of Seth's redemption story in 2017. If nobody remembered The Shield that badly, there would be no pop for them reuniting like there was. Come on dude, WWE already insults its fans intelligence weekly, we don't need people throwing fuel onto that fire. Yup, the only reason people don't remember the shows from week to week is because the product's so bland and unmemorable. Otherwise, that'd mean wrestling fans are incapable of understanding any form of serialised fiction. |
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Post by Dub H on Feb 21, 2019 10:13:34 GMT -5
I watched raw after the rumble i was dumbfounded when Triple H said "but you backstabbed seth,the shield, in the back!"(not exact words)
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT? YOU AND SETH ARE THE WHOLE REASON THE SHIELD BROKE UP IN THE FIRST,IT HAS BEEN CORE OF HIS CHARACTER FOR YEARS.
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