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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 26, 2019 13:33:38 GMT -5
That’s baaaaaad. How DARE you not go crazy for these NXT guys you never heard of?! With a combination of teh internets and the fact that they live so close to the NXT loops, I find it difficult that they don't know any of the NXT roster. Not. Everyone. Knows. Its really stupid to assume or get uppity if they don’t. The NXT shows are watched by a fraction of a fraction of their TV audience. A more casual crowd is just not going to care unless they’re given a reason beyond “They’re on this show you don’t watch”
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 26, 2019 13:51:27 GMT -5
I get that not everyone knows the NXT roster but even the crowd the next night popped hard for them. Probably just a case of an unresponsive crowd. It happens, shouldn't be buried by the company though. Sure I was annoyed as a fan that the crowd was flat for everyone, not just the NXT people, that night, but there's a difference between average fan at home and a stock traded company.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 26, 2019 15:30:59 GMT -5
WWE are matching Lucasfilm for their contempt for fans.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 26, 2019 16:09:20 GMT -5
This is an overwhelmingly stupid video to have made.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 8:50:20 GMT -5
I saw this video yesterday while wandering thru the WWE YT profile and was fascinated that they'd actually troll the fanbase in this blatant a manner. Not surprised, at all, but still fascinated. Also I had zero idea who this guy was or is......and that seems fitting... reminder that Vince literally came out at a smackdown shown and demanded the crowd to have fun Remember when he fired us all. And yet the fans kept coming back, so the precedent for doing this kind of shit to crowds certainly exists. Vince: "THEY MUST LOVE THE ABUSE, PAL."
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Post by TGM on Feb 27, 2019 10:13:13 GMT -5
Does anybody have any solid numbers RE: NXT vs Raw viewership?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 27, 2019 10:51:30 GMT -5
Does anybody have any solid numbers RE: NXT vs Raw viewership? Numbers wouldn't even tell the story. In some crowds, most of the audience aren't even subscribed to the Network. At best they watch Raw week to week and even with network subscribers not everyone who has a subscription watches NXT.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Feb 27, 2019 11:34:37 GMT -5
I can overlook a lot of stuff, but that was just petty.
Besides the real reason the crowd was so dead that night was that right before the show they were told a small dog not unlike Lassie was ran over in the parking lot.
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Post by TGM on Feb 27, 2019 11:39:46 GMT -5
Does anybody have any solid numbers RE: NXT vs Raw viewership? Numbers wouldn't even tell the story. In some crowds, most of the audience aren't even subscribed to the Network. At best they watch Raw week to week and even with network subscribers not everyone who has a subscription watches NXT. So you don't have the numbers for this "fraction of a fraction claim"?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2019 11:42:03 GMT -5
Numbers wouldn't even tell the story. In some crowds, most of the audience aren't even subscribed to the Network. At best they watch Raw week to week and even with network subscribers not everyone who has a subscription watches NXT. So you don't have the numbers for this "fraction of a fraction claim"? I mean, none of the big streaming numbers give out numbers so it's not a surprise WWE wouldn't.
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Post by TGM on Feb 27, 2019 11:46:48 GMT -5
So you don't have the numbers for this "fraction of a fraction claim"? I mean, none of the big streaming numbers give out numbers so it's not a surprise WWE wouldn't. What's a weekly Raw or Smackdown viewership on average then? Tens of millions?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2019 11:51:02 GMT -5
I mean, none of the big streaming numbers give out numbers so it's not a surprise WWE wouldn't. What's a weekly Raw or Smackdown viewership on average then? Tens of millions? I mean, the average seems to be around 2.5m or so, I know for a fact Raw usually does about 150,000 weekly in the UK, not sure about anywhere else so if you say about...4-5m globally?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 27, 2019 11:54:11 GMT -5
Numbers wouldn't even tell the story. In some crowds, most of the audience aren't even subscribed to the Network. At best they watch Raw week to week and even with network subscribers not everyone who has a subscription watches NXT. So you don't have the numbers for this "fraction of a fraction claim"? It's just common sense. Not everyone that watches the show has the network and not everyone that has the network watches NXT (And if we wanna put in the possibility that people that watch NXT actually end up not enjoying the product we got all kinds of possible splits)
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 27, 2019 11:55:55 GMT -5
The whole argument of whether or not the crowd should know who these NXT callups are is silly; it's not our job to know these characters, it's WWE's job to present them to us in a logical and compelling way.
But yeah, mocking fans for not reacting when you're a company known for being mediocre is a pretty bad strategy. Maybe make the shows more enjoyable? I don't know.
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Post by TGM on Feb 27, 2019 11:56:58 GMT -5
So you don't have the numbers for this "fraction of a fraction claim"? It's just common sense. Not everyone that watches the show has the network and not everyone that has the network watches NXT (And if we wanna put in the possibility that people that watch NXT actually end up not enjoying the product we got all kinds of possible splits) Nah dealing with assumptions like that can lead to all sorts of mistakes.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2019 11:59:15 GMT -5
The whole argument of whether or not the crowd should know who these NXT callups are is silly; it's not our job to know these characters, it's WWE's job to present them to us in a logical and compelling way. Pretty much. And again, the point of these rosters in NXT or NXT UK is to eventually lead people to get the network. You make these people compelling, tell people where to find more, they get the network, they enjoy the talent, they get excited at them being called up, they tell their friends etc etc etc.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 27, 2019 12:01:28 GMT -5
It's just common sense. Not everyone that watches the show has the network and not everyone that has the network watches NXT (And if we wanna put in the possibility that people that watch NXT actually end up not enjoying the product we got all kinds of possible splits) Nah dealing with assumptions like that can lead to all sorts of mistakes. So you think NXT is watched by as many people as Raw?
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Post by TGM on Feb 27, 2019 12:04:56 GMT -5
Nah dealing with assumptions like that can lead to all sorts of mistakes. So you think NXT is watched by as many people as Raw? Don't put words in my mouth my dude. I'm asking for you to present numbers for a clearer picture on the viewing gap between shows.
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Post by Error on Feb 27, 2019 12:19:58 GMT -5
Does anybody have any solid numbers RE: NXT vs Raw viewership? WWE doesn't release viewership numbers for individual Network shows but we do know subscriber numbers. corporate.wwe.com/investors/news/press-releases/2019/02-07-2019-135807128According to their year end/Q4 report WWE Network had 1.59 million paid subscribers world wide, meanwhile the Raw in question averaged 2.87 million viewers in the US alone. So from there you can surmise that at best half the audience watching on TV had no (legal) access to NXT and this doesn't take into account the possibilty of people who just have WWE Network for the PPV/Major main roster special events.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Feb 27, 2019 12:31:07 GMT -5
It’s a small market but it’s still fans of your product. Fans who paid to see your show who were just not interested in what you gave them.
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