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Post by corndog on Feb 27, 2019 12:50:25 GMT -5
WWE has all the talent in the world but it's becoming more and more 2010 TNA by the f***ing day. This really did remind me of something TNA would have done. The right thing to do is just not go back to the town for a televised event. Also even more pathetic was them basically exposing their plants in the crowd. For a company that is making more money than ever, despite dwindling ratings and attendance, they are acting like a company that is failing miserably. This could be become a self fulfilling prophecy if they don't change their ways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 13:00:35 GMT -5
On Cornette's recent podcast he discussed Raw and noted that various stuff the guys did in the Ricochet/Balor match had no chance of resonating with a Louisiana crowd. So is it the crowd or did WWE not do a good job of engaging them? I tracked down the segment and listened to it just so I could say with certainty Cornette was wrong and it's the same old shit he's always on about. It's the same old "southern rasslin' is different" perception bias that Cornette's been slinging for years. Nothing they did in that match is any different from what's been presented on WWE's product for a long time now, the days of southern crowds not knowing what to make of fast-paced wrestling is long over, as evidenced by the fact that they did another show in the same state to a much better reception literally the next night. Jim still thinks the south is some kind of magical holdout where his views on wrestling are still the prevailing opinion, and that those crowds will surely think he's right. But nobody watching WWE and going to WWE shows is going to be confused by what they're seeing, this isn't a market that's only ever been exposed to '80s Memphis style. An above average crowd at that, who reacted strongly to just about everything. Cornette sometimes makes good points to go with his "NOT MY f***IN' WRASSLIN!" rambling, but they're becoming pretty scarce.
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Post by lavelleuk on Feb 27, 2019 13:01:11 GMT -5
That was awful, don't they know they're I it together? They're knocking down walls, breaking barriers!? Seriously, what a load of BS.
Also who is that guy? Why is he so annoying? Why is he talking like he's cutting an 80s promo?
I know the principal Skinner meme is used all the time but that really felt like the WWE being completely out of touch
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Post by lavelleuk on Feb 27, 2019 13:02:11 GMT -5
Oh forgot to add, is ricochet really being called the human joystick? If so that's just horrible, and maybe a reason why crowds don't react to people anymore!
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 27, 2019 13:11:47 GMT -5
Oh forgot to add, is ricochet really being called the human joystick? If so that's just horrible, and maybe a reason why crowds don't react to people anymore! I missed that one. Human joystick? ThatsAPenis.gif
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Post by Dub H on Feb 27, 2019 13:22:14 GMT -5
Oh forgot to add, is ricochet really being called the human joystick? If so that's just horrible, and maybe a reason why crowds don't react to people anymore! They called the bad-ass metal goth Alistair Black "Moody". The company ha sno idea how to make people cool or interesting
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Post by Chiral on Feb 27, 2019 13:41:50 GMT -5
WWE are matching Lucasfilm for their contempt for fans. Seriously? Lucasfilm is nowhere close to WWE in this regard.
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Post by kidglov3s on Feb 27, 2019 13:53:43 GMT -5
WWE has all the talent in the world but it's becoming more and more 2010 TNA by the f***ing day. This really did remind me of something TNA would have done. The right thing to do is just not go back to the town for a televised event. Also even more pathetic was them basically exposing their plants in the crowd. For a company that is making more money than ever, despite dwindling ratings and attendance, they are acting like a company that is failing miserably. This could be become a self fulfilling prophecy if they don't change their ways. No ifs about it. Kidglov3s-run WWE by 2029.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 27, 2019 14:02:07 GMT -5
WWE are matching Lucasfilm for their contempt for fans. Seriously? Lucasfilm is nowhere close to WWE in this regard. Lucasfilm and their apologists used a few trolls to basically paint the wider fanbase as racists and sexists in an attempt to deflect from legit criticism. Between Paige's nonsense and this dickhead in the video, they are on the same level.
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Post by JCBaggee on Feb 27, 2019 14:32:14 GMT -5
I can't even watch the video to judge this, because Pat McAfee makes me want to punch my screen. I can't even hate him in a heel way, he's just literally the worst.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 27, 2019 14:47:11 GMT -5
I tracked down the segment and listened to it just so I could say with certainty Cornette was wrong and it's the same old shit he's always on about. It's the same old "southern rasslin' is different" perception bias that Cornette's been slinging for years. Nothing they did in that match is any different from what's been presented on WWE's product for a long time now, the days of southern crowds not knowing what to make of fast-paced wrestling is long over, as evidenced by the fact that they did another show in the same state to a much better reception literally the next night. Jim still thinks the south is some kind of magical holdout where his views on wrestling are still the prevailing opinion, and that those crowds will surely think he's right. But nobody watching WWE and going to WWE shows is going to be confused by what they're seeing, this isn't a market that's only ever been exposed to '80s Memphis style. An above average crowd at that, who reacted strongly to just about everything. Cornette sometimes makes good points to go with his "NOT MY f***IN' WRASSLIN!" rambling, but they're becoming pretty scarce. A lot of Cornette's internet fame has come from criticizing contemporary WWE booking. And some of his gripes are valid, but the key piece is that it's very easy to say something is bad. It's a lot harder to identify what is bad about it, or to give something better. I've often found myself agreeing with Cornette that something was a bad idea, only to completely disagree with him about why it was a bad idea. I think Ricochet debuting out of nowhere to give the assist to someone he's never interacted with before is a bad idea. I think involving him in the absolute death on ice that is Bobby Lashley is a bad idea. I don't think "He was doing flippy stuff in front of a southern crowd, those people can't possibly understand flippy stuff" is an even kind of sensible frame of mind. Cornette's value is in giving stories of old, and I think more and more he has nothing to offer in terms of commentary on a modern product.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Feb 27, 2019 15:51:28 GMT -5
Wait, they're not calling him "The Human Joystick" are they???
That's literally a thinly veiled euphemism for penis.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 27, 2019 15:56:24 GMT -5
Why are "joysticks" even a thing in pop culture about video games? Unless we're on some Atari era stuff or you're playing a flight simulator... joysticks ain't it man.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 27, 2019 16:03:07 GMT -5
Why are "joysticks" even a thing in pop culture about video games? Unless we're on some Atari era stuff or you're playing a flight simulator... joysticks ain't it man. It's what old nan Vince remembers those Videola gaming machines having
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 27, 2019 16:12:01 GMT -5
I guess this means they probably won't come back anytime soon The prison guard from Orange is the New Black. This has been bugging me since I first saw the thumbnail. This motherf***er reminds me of the prison guard from Orange is the New Black.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 27, 2019 16:26:34 GMT -5
An above average crowd at that, who reacted strongly to just about everything. Cornette sometimes makes good points to go with his "NOT MY f***IN' WRASSLIN!" rambling, but they're becoming pretty scarce. A lot of Cornette's internet fame has come from criticizing contemporary WWE booking. And some of his gripes are valid, but the key piece is that it's very easy to say something is bad. It's a lot harder to identify what is bad about it, or to give something better. I've often found myself agreeing with Cornette that something was a bad idea, only to completely disagree with him about why it was a bad idea. I think Ricochet debuting out of nowhere to give the assist to someone he's never interacted with before is a bad idea. I think involving him in the absolute death on ice that is Bobby Lashley is a bad idea. I don't think "He was doing flippy stuff in front of a southern crowd, those people can't possibly understand flippy stuff" is an even kind of sensible frame of mind. Cornette's value is in giving stories of old, and I think more and more he has nothing to offer in terms of commentary on a modern product. Similar to Russo. He says things that are clearly wrong with the product. But then has absolutely no way of actually fixing the problem because they are so out of touch with what the audience wants as well as the zeitgeist of the times they may as well be trying to push 80's Era Hogan on fans in 1997. Saying "Ricochet debuting out of nowhere with no hype is dumb" is easy... saying "the Roman Reigns Megapush is dying a death" is easy... finding away for people to care about Ricochet, or righting the ship with Roman is much harder and more complicated...
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 27, 2019 22:08:25 GMT -5
Why are "joysticks" even a thing in pop culture about video games? Unless we're on some Atari era stuff or you're playing a flight simulator... joysticks ain't it man. It's what old nan Vince remembers those Videola gaming machines having Old nan was a typo, but I'm keeping it like that, still appropriate
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 28, 2019 2:54:53 GMT -5
They need to be VERY careful as they go down this road of attacking the audience, if live crowds shrink, TV ratings will follow. On top of that, people are super litigious these days and I doubt there's a 'The WWE may use their platform to single out amd insult you' clause on the back of tickets.
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Post by trollrogue on Feb 28, 2019 3:37:46 GMT -5
It does really seem like he's just talking smack against LA bc he's a heel, he knows LA has gotten 2 'Mania's under their belt so nothing other than kayfabe like Elias and the Supersonics Diss Heard 'Round The World he's just trying to get nuclear heetz to smark up crowd response next live show in the Cajun Dome.
Let a heel playa play, or by all means continue to let him work you all up into a shoot, brother. Official WWE YT channel means it's kayfabe guh doey
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