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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 0:14:16 GMT -5
Yeah I'm pretty sure Kofi, Becky and Rollins all win at WM. The US title, tag belts and maybe Cruiserweight belt will be held by heels so it'll be a good mix between 6 face champions and 4 heel champions on the main roster. no, you don't get it. They think Rousey is that face. They think she's the one who will give them all a big happy ending and make everyone feel great. Why do you think that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 0:15:13 GMT -5
Yeah I'm pretty sure Kofi, Becky and Rollins all win at WM. The US title, tag belts and maybe Cruiserweight belt will be held by heels so it'll be a good mix between 6 face champions and 4 heel champions on the main roster. no, you don't get it. They think Rousey is that face. They think she's the one who will give them all a big happy ending and make everyone feel great. I don't think they're completely blind to it... but I could see them deciding to just give a partial win on that front. Don't think it's especially likely, but I can see, "Ronda gets headlines for being the first woman to win in the WrestleMania main event!" trumping, "The fans go home from WrestleMania happy!" in their mind and then them doing something of a make-good both for that and for not doing the singles match everyone actually wanted by having Becky beat her for the belt the next night on Raw, which would also pay off Ronda's post-PPV open challenge angle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 0:15:57 GMT -5
Man, Kofi chasing the title after 11 years practically wrote itself but of course they’ll rehash this angle twice at the same time. Legit surprised they are going with Kofi for the title at Mania. Time for Bryan to break out the HHH 2003 promo. HHH was practically describing the New Day in that promo anyway so as long as the racist loses in the end this time it would at least make sense. Hell, Vince saying that Kofi's replacement was more deserving than Kofi after Kofi's accomplishments made me side-eye it a bit. I knew that's not what they meant but you know what I mean. I didn’t see the promo tonight but it wouldn’t surprise me. That HHH promo in 2003 included lines like “dance for me”, “people like you don’t get to be world champions”, and “your role is to entertain people like me” (maybe not exact words but close enough). I truly believe that was Vince speaking through Trips, with decades of proof showing it, which makes this Kofi push all the more shocking to me. Hope Kofi wins the title. I’m not expecting it but stranger things have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 0:28:07 GMT -5
If they’re running with a story of Vince being out of touch, why is he bringing one of the best talents out in KO to face Bryan? Lol.
They should have used Orton or something. Or better yet... choose Big E and watch The New Day meltdown. That could have been interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 0:32:31 GMT -5
Hell, Vince saying that Kofi's replacement was more deserving than Kofi after Kofi's accomplishments made me side-eye it a bit. I knew that's not what they meant but you know what I mean. I didn’t see the promo tonight but it wouldn’t surprise me. That HHH promo in 2003 included lines like “dance for me”, “people like you don’t get to be world champions”, and “your role is to entertain people like me” (maybe not exact words but close enough). I truly believe that was Vince speaking through Trips, with decades of proof showing it, which makes this Kofi push all the more shocking to me. Hope Kofi wins the title. I’m not expecting it but stranger things have happened. He said "I'm replacing you with a man that I've appointed who's more deserving than you quite frankly, more qualified than you Kofi-" and that's after we had a video package showing Kofi win every championship and him saying he's been grinding for 11 years. It's not anything like what Triple H said at all but if people wanted to look at it that way then they could make a connection. I just thought it was interesting how Vince is in a Kofi Kingston segment in 2019. That's crazy.
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Post by schma on Feb 27, 2019 0:56:37 GMT -5
I do think that they are moving toward a confrontation with Vince vs the other three as they call him on his shit. Steph is still kinda tweener but Shane and HHH have ostensibly been mostly face since the four of them did that segment. I suspect this is also a way to get Kofi the Mania match without wasting it at Fastlane. I do appreciate that they're not going full Charlotte Owens. Kevin is basically doing the prizefighter thing he did when he was first called up, though a bit more mellow. In a backstage segment he did say that Kofi deserved it and he figured he would get his chance at some point but that he wasn't going to leave his family for just anything. He also mentioned being surprised about it and that he was taking the opportunity for his family. So it's kind of a yeah I know I was handed this but I'm gonna do it for my family. I like prizefighter KO so I'm glad they're going that way rather than Charlotte Owens potentially.
Edit: Also, that crowd wanted the New Day to wreck some shit. It'd be kind of amazing if somehow they align with Becky and make Vince's life hell.
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Post by bog on Feb 27, 2019 1:02:49 GMT -5
If they’re running with a story of Vince being out of touch, why is he bringing one of the best talents out in KO to face Bryan? Lol. They should have used Orton or something. Or better yet... choose Big E and watch The New Day meltdown. That could have been interesting. Yeah they already tried corporate champ Owens. He doesn't scream hand-picked like Charlotte does. Orton is good, but he's tied up with AJ.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 27, 2019 1:51:01 GMT -5
They're making the "overlooked" part of the story and that's exactly what I want out of this. I am so f***ing in on this Kofi story.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 27, 2019 2:12:50 GMT -5
They're making the "overlooked" part of the story and that's exactly what I want out of this. I am so f***ing in on this Kofi story. I mean, holy shit, this is lining up as potentially one of the great feel-good WrestleManias of recent times if Lynch, Kingston AND Rollins (way colder than the other two he may be, hey, at least it's off Lesnar) all get up and win the gold. Touch wood that they deliver on that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 27, 2019 2:30:44 GMT -5
They are trying f*** over Kofi and 100% here for it
No way they bring in Vince to have him overlook Kofi (which is Kofi story now) and not have this pay off
This is better than giving him the shot at Fastlane because now you have fans clamoring even more for this
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 27, 2019 2:39:52 GMT -5
They are trying f*** over Kofi and 100% here for it No way they bring in Vince to have him overlook Kofi (which is Kofi story now) and not have this pay off This is better than giving him the shot at Fastlane because now you have fans clamoring even more for this Yup. And because it's Vince we're in that half meta but full kayfabe sweetspot. Can you imagine Vince actually giving him the belt with HIMSELF playing the villain that overlooked him in story? That comes off as a real life "you're right, my bad sorry I doubted you". This is huge. This is the ACTUAL fabled brass ring.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Feb 27, 2019 3:14:47 GMT -5
Becky doing a fake Jamaican accent is something I never knew I wanted to hear until now.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Feb 27, 2019 3:21:37 GMT -5
Becky doing a fake Jamaican accent is something I never knew I wanted to hear until now. I’m Da Mon... Sorry.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Feb 27, 2019 4:35:22 GMT -5
I'd rather Owens be visually reluctant to taking the match. We are talking about the same Vince that Owens headbutted and beat up. Why would he be so quick to trust a Vince idea.
This angle could make a lot more sense if they played up the continuity with their personal gripes with Vince and why would him being so hands on with those three. I'd take Stephanie far away from this. I wouldn't want Shane to make this about him being undermined. That would make this Shane and Vince centric. But we're in the slop now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 4:53:43 GMT -5
I'd rather Owens be visually reluctant to taking the match. We are talking about the same Vince that Owens headbutted and beat up. Why would he be so quick to trust a Vince idea. This angle could make a lot more sense if they played up the continuity with their personal gripes with Vince and why would him being so hands on with those three. I'd take Stephanie far away from this. I wouldn't want Shane to make this about him being undermined. That would make this Shane and Vince centric. But we're in the slop now. Seems like they miiiight go that direction? It's hard to tell since there's only one more show before Payback so there's no real time to build it but the commentators were mentioning that it was strange Vince gave Owens this opportunity after what they went through before.
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Feb 27, 2019 5:11:34 GMT -5
If they’re running with a story of Vince being out of touch, why is he bringing one of the best talents out in KO to face Bryan? Lol. They should have used Orton or something. Or better yet... choose Big E and watch The New Day meltdown. That could have been interesting. Randy Orton is going to be feuding with AJ Styles. So I think that kind of a role would be better suited for someone like Lars Sullivan.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 27, 2019 5:36:15 GMT -5
so when it becomes Owens vs Kofi vs Bryan at wrestlemania it will mean more that kori won it I a triple.threat right? but man talk lazy writing
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Post by Spider2024 on Feb 27, 2019 5:45:52 GMT -5
I'l merely repeat what I said in last night's SDL thread: Y’all realize this means we’re DEFINITELY getting Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania, right? You don’t tell the Kofi story and have its ending come at Fast Lane. That would be like Rocky Balboa winning the championship about 20 minutes into “Rocky II.” In that case, I want Kofi Kingston leaving WrestleMania 35 as WWE Champion, or I'm out.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 27, 2019 6:12:55 GMT -5
On one hand it might be a good sign Kofi's getting that shit, on the other hand it's a real f***ing hack move to just do the same story all over again but with less background and character to it. I've stuck up for the Becky/Charlotte/Ronda story because it's a case of WWE falling ass-backwards into a really good throughline of character motivations. That shit can't be found here at goddamn all.
I also fear for the possibility that WWE running the same story twice over means that one of the two isn't getting the happy ending they need, Vince doesn't play like that.
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 27, 2019 7:02:10 GMT -5
It still confuses me how thoroughly this completely undercuts the build they've been doing for Owens. Okay, he's now a blue collar man just trying to do right by his family, got it... and just waltzes straight back first thing into an unearned WWE title match for literally no reason. Those vigenettes could be red herrings for his true heel persona. Kinda like Waylon Mercy haha
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