Zen411
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Post by Zen411 on Feb 27, 2019 20:28:45 GMT -5
So luger bolted to wcw shortly after summerslam 95. Seems wwf had been hinting at splitting bulldog and luger by making bulldog yell at fans for chanting USA. They also were trying to open up a possible feud with Mabel by having luger interfere in the diesel match....lugers only role at the ppv. How long would luger have lasted? Worked in the attitude era? Ever been champ? Or just upper mid card occasional main eventer?
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 27, 2019 21:05:39 GMT -5
The booking was a bit of a mess. You had Davey Boy turning on Diesel before he turned on his own regular tag partner. Then Luger goes after Mabel. Were they deliberately avoiding a Luger-Bulldog split and feud? Those matches wouldn't have been very good, but they wouldn't have been worse than Luger-Mabel.
One thing I'm sure of: Goldust would have been hot for Luger. I bet they would have feuded early into Goldust's run, possibly even before Goldust moved on to Razor.
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Post by illiniman88 on Feb 27, 2019 21:29:13 GMT -5
I could see Luger having a long IC title run, feuding with Warrior, feuding with HHH and Sable going with Luger
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 9:52:44 GMT -5
Luger was similar to Austin in the respect that he had a natural tweener charisma. Vince was clueless in how to make this work for him, so he had a Lex Express and a Ringmaster. Austin had a chance to be Stone Cold because it was 1996, but Luger had no chance of being the Total Package because it was 1993. If Luger had made it to '96 or '97, things might have changed for him, but it's just as well that he went back to WCW where he got to do his tweener shtick for 5 more years and got more respect than he probably would have gotten from Vince.
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 28, 2019 15:57:35 GMT -5
I can't see Lex lasting too much longer. He had to feel that Summerslam 1993 was the best he would get from WWF and his best days there were well over. He lasted two more years but probably not much longer. He was more of a WCW guy, anyway, like Arn and Tully, Ric Flair, Dusty, Terry Taylor, Ricky Steamboat (1990s) among others where they tried WWF for a year or so but their greener pastures for storylines and success were in WCW. After Bulldog's turn I can see Lex turning and maybe lasting until mid 1996 when Razor and Diesel were leaving and Lex would have some involvement with n w o, whether a part of the group or against.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 28, 2019 16:00:49 GMT -5
if he stayed around any longer I just think he'd be mostly spinning his wheels, I think he'd be gone by some point in 1996.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 28, 2019 16:52:21 GMT -5
The booking was a bit of a mess. You had Davey Boy turning on Diesel before he turned on his own regular tag partner. Then Luger goes after Mabel. Were they deliberately avoiding a Luger-Bulldog split and feud? The impression I had at the time was that we were supposed to be wondering if Luger was going heel like his partner, and him coming to Diesel's aid instead was a semi-swerve that Lex was still one of the good guys. I'd guess it was going to shift into Diesel & Luger vs Mabel & Bulldog, at least briefly. That said, Luger felt so aimless in '95, even on a roster low in star power, that it's hard to believe they hadn't given up on him by that point, and I really can't imagine him going anywhere but down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 17:22:06 GMT -5
Should have cut ties sooner and had one run in Japan as Rex Rugel.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 1, 2019 7:22:43 GMT -5
I could see Luger having a long IC title run, feuding with Warrior, feuding with HHH and Sable going with Luger Sable was only signed to be Mero's valet. So that wouldnt have been able to happen. Maybe the main event of IYH would have been Diesel, Shawn Michaels and Lex Luger vs Davey Boy Smith, Owen Hart and Yokozuna.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Mar 1, 2019 8:44:09 GMT -5
A heel turn most definitly
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Post by horsemen4ever on Mar 1, 2019 9:43:28 GMT -5
There is unaired Superstars segement for 9/9/95 episode where Luger was interviewed and attacked by Men On a Mission, so obvious the immediate thing was a programs with Mabel.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 1, 2019 10:58:33 GMT -5
Probably he gets the diesel push.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Mar 1, 2019 11:43:13 GMT -5
Never should have turned him face. Especially how hard they forced it. It was unnecessary. Bret was going to work as a top face and you can’t tell me a prolonged Bret Hart face v Lex Luger heel program wouldn’t be money. Especially when they were still playing his forearm off as a tool of death
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Post by hassanchop on Mar 2, 2019 20:01:44 GMT -5
Maybe if he makes it to 97 he joins the Hart Foundation and rants how when he represented the old Glory USA he got jack squat and blames it for causing Bulldog turning on him, and gives up the red white and blue and feuds with The Patriot and Vader and the Lex Express is rechristened the Hart Express where they tour America and lecture how immoral America had become while the people throw garbage at the bus as it passes them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 22:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by evilone on Mar 3, 2019 7:32:35 GMT -5
WrestleMania game digitized sprites in the making?
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Post by SmashTV on Mar 3, 2019 8:50:30 GMT -5
The mid-card, and nothing else. The experiment in 1993 hadn’t worked, and the SummerSlam countout win and OTT celebration didn’t help him any. Come the 94 Rumble fans weren’t interested in him, so any title shots - save WMX - would have been a long time coming.
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Post by petef3 on Mar 3, 2019 10:28:15 GMT -5
One of the things that made Luger jump was apparently a plan for him to put over Hunter Hearst Helmsley on PPV. He wasn't going anywhere.
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