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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Feb 28, 2019 13:34:48 GMT -5
The InVasion is mostly derided among the WCW and ECW faithful who felt totally alienated watching their favorite promotions turned into a zombie clown show on WWF programming. I'm a WCW guy. I prefer to self-immolate, not have Vince McMahon do it for us!
One of the primary criticisms outside of not having enough star power on the WCW side is how it ignored blatant character continuity. Why would Diamond Dallas Page fall for the Undertaker's wife Sara when he has Kimberly at home? That sort of thing. But what were the times the WWF actually got WCW and ECW history right, either on purpose or through sheer dumb luck?
Well, for starters, DDP falling for Sara Undertaker works well with where his character was left in WCW: Kimberly had left him the previous year when she turned heel and aligned with Eric Bischoff. DDP was sort of broken, suffering a string of other betrayals along the way, like David Arquette and Kanyon turning on him. In his final appearance in OG WCW, his no-good year came to a close when he was beaten down by Scott Steiner at Greed. So sure. The guy's a little bugged out when we catch up with him later that summer.
Additionally, not having Hogan and Goldberg might have killed the potential for dream matches long associated with WWF vs. WCW, but it meshed with WCW storylines. Hogan was of course "fired" by Vince Russo at Bash at the Beach 2000, while Goldberg lost to Luger and Bagwell at Sin 2001, ending his career in WCW due to a Russo stipulation about him needing to recreate his winning streak.
What are some others?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 28, 2019 13:43:03 GMT -5
For the most part, Rob Van Dam got to keep his persona from ECW. Yeah, he was a member of the Alliance, but he honestly didn't give a shit about anyone but himself and openly said in-character that he didn't give a shit about the WWF vs. Alliance thing. He just wanted to show off and win titles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 13:48:11 GMT -5
My go-to answer in threads like this:
Psicosis making a beeline for Rey Mysterio as soon as he entered the Rumble. The announcers didn't even acknowledge it, but it was a callback to them being each other's arch nemesis in WCW and ECW, and even before that in Mexico.
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Post by realist on Feb 28, 2019 13:49:27 GMT -5
After losing to him at Summerslam 1999, Shane McMahon and Test formed a nice friendship where Test would even help him out in matches years after the storyline. They were bros. Fast forward to the Invasion, and the WWE guys attacked Test for being friendly with Shane and thinking he was a mole for the competition. If I remember correctly, Test was not the mole, but joined the Alliance because he was pissed about the attack.
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Post by CeilingFan on Feb 28, 2019 17:02:50 GMT -5
Ric Flair not taking part in the invasion because he got humiliated by Dusty and Dustin Rhodes, while the WCW fans cheered.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 28, 2019 17:57:33 GMT -5
After losing to him at Summerslam 1999, Shane McMahon and Test formed a nice friendship where Test would even help him out in matches years after the storyline. They were bros. Fast forward to the Invasion, and the WWE guys attacked Test for being friendly with Shane and thinking he was a mole for the competition. If I remember correctly, Test was not the mole, but joined the Alliance because he was pissed about the attack. Correct, the mole was revealed to be Paul Heyman when the ECW part of the InVasion formed.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 28, 2019 23:01:47 GMT -5
Lance Storm kept being boring
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Feb 28, 2019 23:37:34 GMT -5
After losing to him at Summerslam 1999, Shane McMahon and Test formed a nice friendship where Test would even help him out in matches years after the storyline. They were bros. Fast forward to the Invasion, and the WWE guys attacked Test for being friendly with Shane and thinking he was a mole for the competition. If I remember correctly, Test was not the mole, but joined the Alliance because he was pissed about the attack. Also believe Test was the only member of the Alliance to have never been a part of WCW or ECW prior to his WWF career
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 28, 2019 23:40:43 GMT -5
During the Undertaker/Sara angle, Taker tracked down DDP's creepy shrine in order to attack Page, but it was actually Kanyon wearing the Positively Kanyon wig, allowing the real DDP to jump Undertaker from behind.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Feb 28, 2019 23:53:46 GMT -5
After losing to him at Summerslam 1999, Shane McMahon and Test formed a nice friendship where Test would even help him out in matches years after the storyline. They were bros. Fast forward to the Invasion, and the WWE guys attacked Test for being friendly with Shane and thinking he was a mole for the competition. If I remember correctly, Test was not the mole, but joined the Alliance because he was pissed about the attack. Also believe Test was the only member of the Alliance to have never been a part of WCW or ECW prior to his WWF career Christian and Ivory. Also technically Shane and Stephanie.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Mar 1, 2019 9:08:56 GMT -5
WWF member X-Pac still being seen as a heel purely for being X-Pac.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 1, 2019 10:14:43 GMT -5
Also believe Test was the only member of the Alliance to have never been a part of WCW or ECW prior to his WWF career Christian and Ivory. Also technically Shane and Stephanie. Angle too, unless you count that weird one night he had in ECW
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 1, 2019 18:35:24 GMT -5
I used to share in the 'DDP had Kimberley at home, he didn't need Sara' opinion too.
But it's a f***ed up opinion that I now reject.
Women aren't just things that you 'have one,' first of all.
Second of all, sexual crime is rarely actually anything to do with sex, it's about power. If DDP saw someone he could victimise and was into that, it doesn't matter how hot his wife is because that isn't the point.
Third of all, didn't DDP's first promo essentially say 'nah this was all just to f*** with Taker,' which could even let you explain away the further shit like the shrine as just DDP continuing to try to f*** with Taker. Which, by the way, worked every single damn time DDP did it. It was a flawlessly executed plan let down by the fact that DDP and Kanyon didn't have the skills to fight their way out of that scenario once they set it up. Somebody like a Triple H, or even Paul Bearer and Kane, those are people who could definitely benefit from an Undertaker who is pure rage instead of focus. Jake Roberts, Randy Orton...
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