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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:38:13 GMT -5
Charlotte's essentially become Jay-Z in his prime. She had some great years but now she's reached a higher tier where everything she does will pop. Like stated, the other Four Horsewomen have been great at a time but Charlotte's always been consistent and she's always been able to hit things out of the park. When Becky rose up late 2018 it looked at times like Becky would completely outclass Charlotte but then Charlotte stepped up. Whether it was in the Last Woman Standing match, Survivor Series, the TLC match, the Rumble, she's continued to elevate.
Becky's dope and all and she's getting her time now. Becky's the chosen one but Charlotte? Man, her entire career's entered this new territory. There's a difference between being consistent and consistently dropping hot shit. Charlotte's the latter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:40:44 GMT -5
Charlotte's only real weak point is her promos. Still talks like she is coached by an alien. Talking weird isn't just her problem though. The talent is getting terrible direction and feedback from someone. It's annoying when she RAISES her VOICE like THIS!! But I figure she knows what she's doing there, because when they made her a face she stopped doing it completely. Doesn't make it any less annoying to a lot of people, I'm sure, but that's just one of her ways of getting heat I guess.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 4, 2019 13:42:26 GMT -5
Charlotte is still less charismatic and less over than Asuka.Asuka may be worse in the microphone becaus eof language,but she is still much more charismatic. For me she is only third best (not that it is a bad ranking). Which may change in a personal opinion if Dandy continues to get better. She still has mono-expressions ,tlaking weird and just off delivery. And her moonsault is trash which is weird because she got plenty of good moves to use.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:44:29 GMT -5
Charlotte is still less charismatic and less over than Asuka.Asuka may be worse in the microphone becaus eof language,but she is still much more charismatic. For me she is only third best (not that it si a bad ranking). She still has mono-expressions ,tlaking weird and just off delivery. And her moonsault is trash which is weird because she got plenty of good moves to use. My only real complaint about Charlotte in ring (where I think she's the best of all the women, even though I find Becky the most entertaining) is that Natural Selection is an AWFUL secondary finisher.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 4, 2019 13:45:45 GMT -5
Charlotte is still less charismatic and less over than Asuka.Asuka may be worse in the microphone becaus eof language,but she is still much more charismatic. For me she is only third best (not that it si a bad ranking). She still has mono-expressions ,tlaking weird and just off delivery. And her moonsault is trash which is weird because she got plenty of good moves to use. My only real complaint about Charlotte in ring (where I think she's the best of all the women, even though I find Becky the most entertaining) is that Natural Selection is an AWFUL secondary finisher. Its the same issue I have with AJ Styles,I HATE the Styles Clash, that for me is one of the worst finishers ever.
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Post by msc on Mar 4, 2019 13:49:35 GMT -5
Like I said before, to me, Charlotte and Becky are Lennon and Macca. Folk will always go "which one is better?" but both are great.
Gonna pretend no one has done the "Ronda's worked herself into a shoot" comment yet...
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Post by trollrogue on Mar 4, 2019 13:50:15 GMT -5
Charlotte's only real weak point is her promos. Still talks like she is coached by an alien.Talking weird isn't just her problem though. The talent is getting terrible direction and feedback from someone. Ric Flair has be called a lot of things, but 'alien' is probably a first! The only white guy 21Savage would ever write a song about or have star in one of his rap videos, talking 'weird' now will be seen as one of the best female talkers in WWE history when it's HoF time for Charlotte in a few decades.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 4, 2019 13:53:19 GMT -5
Talking about wrestling being fake is fine to you? Let's be honest-- everyone knows it's scripted. If you think Ronda Tweeting 'it's scripted' is the worst thing ever in Wrestling Katie Vic, Paul Bearer and Eddie Guerrero's desecrated honor used in storylines postmortem without consent are 3 big easy answers to show that a harmless Tweet doesn't even scratch the surface. BTW this is her own personal Twitter WWE doesn't own Ronda Rousey's real name nor her personal social media accounts. So she can say whatever she wants to about WWE being scripted, as long as she doesn't do it on WWE tv or at live events I don't think there's anything wrong here. I disagree entirely. When the tweets are being used in character (which they are here) it's pretty lame to go the "scripted" route.
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Post by trollrogue on Mar 4, 2019 13:54:39 GMT -5
I wonder if they'll fade away with her exit. Honestly wouldn't mind. Except Baszler, I like her a lot. I hope she wouldn't feel pressured to follow Rousey out. I'd rather they call Shayna up and then turn her on Ronda. Shayna seems to get it more. Ronda should be in NXT. I would have Shayna and Ronda swap out after 'Mania, just to give Ronda all the benefits of 'developmental' the Performance Center has to offer her since she seems a bit uncertain as a Top Gal on the mic at times despite having great booking. There's no reason why Tomasso and Johnny get to be the only NXT Champs to invade RAW and SDLive, have the NXT Women's Champ get a piece and 'back up' Ronda (aka have Shayna do all the talking for Ronda and provide a reason to make it a Fatal 4HorseWoman Way with 2 halves of both sets of the 4 Horsewomen)
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Post by trollrogue on Mar 4, 2019 13:56:08 GMT -5
Let's be honest-- everyone knows it's scripted. If you think Ronda Tweeting 'it's scripted' is the worst thing ever in Wrestling Katie Vic, Paul Bearer and Eddie Guerrero's desecrated honor used in storylines postmortem without consent are 3 big easy answers to show that a harmless Tweet doesn't even scratch the surface. BTW this is her own personal Twitter WWE doesn't own Ronda Rousey's real name nor her personal social media accounts. So she can say whatever she wants to about WWE being scripted, as long as she doesn't do it on WWE tv or at live events I don't think there's anything wrong here. I disagree entirely. When the tweets are being used in character (which they are here) it's pretty lame to go the "scripted" route. I would say half or more than half of her Twitter fans are also UFC fans. Who have a healthy dislike for 'scripted' WWE 'fake' sports. She is catering to her fans, while Becky on her Twitter caters to her smarks. Same difference IMHO
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 4, 2019 13:58:57 GMT -5
I disagree entirely. When the tweets are being used in character (which they are here) it's pretty lame to go the "scripted" route. I would say half or more than half of her Twitter fans are also UFC fans. Who have a healthy dislike for 'scripted' WWE 'fake' sports. She is catering to her fans, while Becky on her Twitter caters to her smarks. Same difference IMHO That's actually a really fair point and one I haven't considered. As a wrestling fan though that's the one cardinal sin for a story and I have no time for the Russo route.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:59:21 GMT -5
I disagree entirely. When the tweets are being used in character (which they are here) it's pretty lame to go the "scripted" route. I would say half or more than half of her Twitter fans are also UFC fans. Who have a healthy dislike for 'scripted' WWE 'fake' sports. She is catering to her fans, while Becky on her Twitter caters to her smarks. Same difference IMHO Except... That kind of makes it dumber? If you take that approach then she's entirely aiming the advertising for this feud at a crowd that does not and will not ever care about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:02:19 GMT -5
I would say half or more than half of her Twitter fans are also UFC fans. Who have a healthy dislike for 'scripted' WWE 'fake' sports. She is catering to her fans, while Becky on her Twitter caters to her smarks. Same difference IMHO That's actually a really fair point and one I haven't considered. As a wrestling fan though that's the one cardinal sin for a story and I have no time for the Russo route. Honestly, it's why Ronda and Becky should just drop the whole thing. You got one person who's in character at all times (God bless Becky, she doesn't need to be working as hard as she does) and the other's trying to do some weird half shoot thing so it's just turning into a mess. I'm starting to like the idea other people had of wrestlers having two separate Twitter accounts: one for their real lives and the other for character work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:05:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:06:27 GMT -5
Such disrespect to Ronnie "Bam Bam" Rogers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:07:43 GMT -5
Idk, that whole "Ronnie" thing to me is getting as lame as the Millennial Man stuff. That kind of stuff just doesn't mean much when you've got Charlotte saying "I'm making towns, I'm not a troll."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:08:05 GMT -5
There was a guy at one of Becky's signings getting booed for wearing a Ronda shirt. It was pretty funny. I'm sure he knew what he was doing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 14:12:59 GMT -5
Idk, that whole "Ronnie" thing to me is getting as lame as the Millennial Man stuff. That kind of stuff just doesn't mean much when you've got Charlotte saying "I'm making towns, I'm not a troll." It's fair enough if it's not your thing, but I think the difference between this and Ronda's "millennial man" stuff is those digs bombed badly. Becky keeps doing this because people are still eating it up and I'm not going to lie, I want more wrestlers wearing insulting shirts about their rivals. Even though Nia's a messs, I would've even been fine with her wearing a #Facebreaker shirt.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 4, 2019 14:13:43 GMT -5
Idk, that whole "Ronnie" thing to me is getting as lame as the Millennial Man stuff. That kind of stuff just doesn't mean much when you've got Charlotte saying "I'm making towns, I'm not a troll." I like it just fine and wrestler shirts dissing their opponent is some old school stuff I love and miss being more common. But it's good Charlotte has a counter for it because a proper back and forth is what a real feud should be. Just like a good sequence in-ring that familiar opponents can easily counter, Charlotte has no time for Becky's mind games and it helpss build them as actual rivals.
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Post by tenshi on Mar 4, 2019 14:14:44 GMT -5
What did "Rubbish" Ronnie Garbage do to her?
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