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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 17:55:38 GMT -5
Where is the transphobia in this ? She's been railing on the dick envy thing for a while and implying that Becky calling herself "The Man" is rooted in some sort of loathing for not being AMAB/"born a man" or somesuch bullshit. The "dick you wish you had" line is in the same vein. Hehehehe.. you said "dick vein"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 17:55:45 GMT -5
The thing that makes it completely pointless is that they can’t even mention these on tv due to the dick talk, and references to things being fake and scripted. So it’s just all a big waste of time.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 28, 2019 17:56:59 GMT -5
I’ve tried so hard to separate the person from the character but now that the two are literally connected, I’ve had enough. Ronda’s break or whatever can’t come soon enough. Awful human being.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 18:00:36 GMT -5
And also, to be fair (just to nip this in the bud), it isn't just a Ronda thing. We'd be shitting on anyone, even Becky herself, for tweeting that kinda bullshit about it all being fake.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 28, 2019 18:00:42 GMT -5
I’ve tried so hard to separate the person from the character but now that the two are literally connected, I’ve had enough. Ronda’s break or whatever can’t come soon enough. Awful human being. Magic has washed his hands of Zumba E. Rousey. She can no longer DO MAGIC.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 28, 2019 18:07:23 GMT -5
Like imagine if Ronda got Cena or Reigns reactions week in week out, she'd quit after like show 2 of getting booed.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 28, 2019 18:11:46 GMT -5
I think most fans want to like Ronda. She'd still be a mega babyface with the crowd if she'd stick to "I don't need to talk shit, I'll just beat your ass" all alpha wolf style. She's good in-ring. Girl needs to watch old Shamrock in WWF stuff because I think that kind of character would suit her so much better than the crap promos and weak ass Russo twitter game. Play to your strengths and cover your weaknesses.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 28, 2019 18:16:19 GMT -5
they hired the wrong UFC fighter, surely Harold Howard isn't busy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 18:17:14 GMT -5
I think most fans want to like Ronda. She'd still be a mega babyface with the crowd if she'd stick to "I don't need to talk shit, I'll just beat your ass" all alpha wolf style. She's good in-ring. Girl needs to watch old Shamrock in WWF stuff because I think that kind of character would suit her so much better than the crap promos and weak ass Russo twitter game. Play to your strengths and cover your weaknesses. Hell, I do like Ronda. She's already way better than I thought and her matches (rehearsed or not) actually feel like fights. I can take or leave Charlotte in the match, but I've been really looking forward to seeing her work against Becky. My goodness though, someone needs to tell the poor girl that trash talk isn't her strong suit.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Feb 28, 2019 18:17:46 GMT -5
SO... This is what we have: Ronda has confidence issues and she's being owned constantly by Becky, who mocks her on Twitter, beats her up on TV and then mocks her again on Twitter. In an attempt to counter this, Ronda tries to talk trash and fails at it, making people mock her for how bad she is and then in comes Becky and mocks her even more. Then there's Becky, someone who has struggled to make it to the top of the game and, once she got there, she has gone Predator mode and lay waste on anything generates body heat. She starts mocking people and, given her following that was already by her side, the material she uses and who she targets, her following and social media popularity increases. To some, she can do no wrong right now and then she sets her sights on Ronda, going all in (AEW jokes notwithstanding) on someone known to be emotionally fragile and easy to anger. Becky's attacks landed, people liked them and we're off to the races. Somewhere in all of this, Charlotte is involved and she's a scumbag about things. This is the problem: You have a former UFC champion known to have a volatile attitude and being able to wreck people with relative ease that's going mad over being mocked constantly by an opponent who has pretty everyone on her side. Then you have everyone laugh at her over how bad she is at the pro wrestling deal, which triggers Becky to mock Ronda even more for the sake of getting heat on the match and the cycle continues until WrestleMania, if not afterwards. From a kayfabe point of view, Ronda hasn't had anything on Becky since their first interaction in November, barely landing a hit on her but being beaten up by Becky every time they're in the ring. From an insider point of view, Ronda isn't fond of Becky mocking her and people laughing at her due to Becky's attacks and due to not being a good trash talker. Ronda's psychological issues have her want acceptance from people, show them that she's good enough to belong in wrestling. She found success at it by putting up good performances in the ring but other facets like character work or interesting speeches leave a lot to be desired, coming across as fake to some. Once Becky's attacks get to Ronda, her shortcomings in how to defend herself verbally or on social media lead her to anger and ends up making a fool out of herself. Becky built her fanbase on being the scrappy underdog that won't stop fighting until she wins and them found popularity by turning her character around and becoming a vengeful bitch entitled of retribution because she's not on top of the mountain yet. From a professional point of view, Becky can't stop because people love her being a witty and snarky bitch set on revenge for someone the crowd doesn't like anymore and her crowning achievement is finally Ronda for the title at WrestleMania, beating Ronda at anything and everything along the way. Nothing else would suffice. Charlotte exists and she's happy to be here. TL;DR: Ronda is Bret Hart, Becky is Steve Austin and things are going to get worse before they get better. I think you've worked yourself into a shoot... brother. Ronda and Becky are playing characters and trying to add some heat to their match using Twitter. It's not really 'Ronda Rousey talking to Rebecca Quin'. It reminds me of the build for Rock vs Cena, which also had it's fair share of cringey promos and was also overanalysed to death. The reality is, this angle will be no less over on Monday because of RR's tweets.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 18:19:57 GMT -5
The sad thing is that this whole thing isn't purely about the kayfabe aspect of it. Yeah that part was horrible but there's other things too. It's the fact she can't keep up with Becky in this feud and it's that whole "oh you want a dick huh" thing she's thrown out there a good amount of times. That's just...ugh.
Like, am I the only one who expects Ronda to take some time off and probably never return? She seems like the type to immediately trash the company once she leaves. You know she's going to say a lot once she goes on hiatus.
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Post by spagett on Feb 28, 2019 18:20:27 GMT -5
I cannot stress enough how much I HATE any worked shoot bullshit.
Now using real life motivations or real life situations and morphing them into kayfabe, like Austin cutting those ECW promos on Hogan, I have nothing against those if they turn out great. At no point in those promos does Austin break any kayfabe.
But any sort of This is Phil Brooks speaking or Goldberg is going off script nonsense is just the utter drizzling shits. Somebody needs to take Ronda's phone away from here because she's embarrassing herself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 18:23:26 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Charlotte's just chilling in Mexico with Andrade watching all of this go down.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 28, 2019 18:27:48 GMT -5
The sad thing is that this whole thing isn't purely about the kayfabe aspect of it. Yeah that part was horrible but there's other things too. It's the fact she can't keep up with Becky in this feud and it's that whole "oh you want a dick huh" thing she's thrown out there a good amount of times. That's just...ugh. Like, am I the only one who expects Ronda to take some time off and probably never return? She seems like the type to immediately trash the company once she leaves. You know she's going to say a lot once she goes on hiatus. Definitely, I imagine she's gonna trash the fanbase approximately 3 minutes after she leaves and WWE will just be like "haha yeah!" then she'll start trashing the company shortly after.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2019 18:32:09 GMT -5
The crazy thing is that because Ronda got famous outside of WWE and they think "Oh we landed this big star" nobody is going to call her out on it and tell her to drop that shit like they should, because they want to keep happy the big star who came to them. Even if Ronda didn't come to WWE so much as she wahsed up on its shores fresh off of shipwreck and disgrace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 18:34:49 GMT -5
The crazy thing is that because Ronda got famous outside of WWE and they think "Oh we landed this big star" nobody is going to call her out on it and tell her to drop that shit like they should, because they want to keep happy the big star who came to them. Even if Ronda didn't come to WWE so much as she wahsed up on its shores fresh off of shipwreck and disgrace. I think it's just for the best if they keep it on TV. Ronda can't keep up and Becky might as well just stick to going after Charlotte on there. And Corey Graves, because Corey Graves getting owned is always funny.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 28, 2019 18:35:12 GMT -5
The sad thing is that this whole thing isn't purely about the kayfabe aspect of it. Yeah that part was horrible but there's other things too. It's the fact she can't keep up with Becky in this feud and it's that whole "oh you want a dick huh" thing she's thrown out there a good amount of times. That's just...ugh. Like, am I the only one who expects Ronda to take some time off and probably never return? She seems like the type to immediately trash the company once she leaves. You know she's going to say a lot once she goes on hiatus. Oh, she's gonna one million percent play the "Oh, I'm done with that "fake shit" card.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 28, 2019 18:39:22 GMT -5
If Ronda keeps talking about how wrestling’s fake... why even get into the wrestling business?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 28, 2019 18:41:01 GMT -5
If Ronda keeps talking about how wrestling’s fake... why even get into the wrestling business? Because Vince dumped a garbage truck full of trash on her doorstep in return for her "legitimacy". Plus, it got her three friends jobs.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 28, 2019 18:45:00 GMT -5
If Ronda keeps talking about how wrestling’s fake... why even get into the wrestling business? Because Vince dumped a garbage truck full of trash on her doorstep in return for her "legitimacy". Plus, it got her three friends jobs. I wonder if they'll fade away with her exit. Honestly wouldn't mind. Except Baszler, I like her a lot. I hope she wouldn't feel pressured to follow Rousey out.
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