Hart Foundation in WCW

[illiniman88]

When Bret Hart joined WCW there was talk if he would join NWO or WCW. But what if it was neither?

What if he ended up starting The Hart Foundation in WCW? (If they couldn't use that name, they could come up with something else)

You could have had Bret, Davy Boy,Jim Neidhart, Roddy Piper, Curt Henning,Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Rick Rude and if he could have gotten out of his WWF contract you could have had Owen also

Does anyone think this could have been a good idea?

You could have continued the Anti-American gimmick Bret had going and they could have used the Montreal Screwjob in that. Bret could have said something like "what Vince and Shawn did shows American's can't be trusted and that's why America is so disliked by everyone!"

[Milkman Norm]

I don't think he could due to the agreements that Davey Boy and Neidhart signed to get their releases.

[petef3]

Yeah, and no way were WCW lawyers going to allow anything resembling WWF IP on their show. It was never going to happen, period.

[Deleted]

Pretty sure it's just a hypothetical question.

Other than that, I think it would have been cool to reunite Bret, Bulldog and Neidhart but I don't know about the others. A group like this needs a mouthpiece, which would obviously be Bret, but not too many mouthpieces or it runs risk of being watered down like the nWo. I'm a big fan of the Horsemen dynamic where you have a main event guy, an upper midcard guy and a tag team. Bret was obviously the main event guy, but Bulldog and Neidhart always seemed weird as a tag team and were both pretty awful during this run, so even though it looks good on paper it almost seems like it would have been beating a dead horse to me.

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Lance kinda did that with Team Canada

[willywonka666]

I think a cool unit would be Bret, Anvil, Davey Boy, Benoit and Jericho-with Jimmy Hart

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

They were already shit deep on the wwf lawsuit because they were stupid enough to write Diesel and Razor in a program’s sheet when they debuted, they weren’t gonna risk another lawsuit.

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Mar 3, 2019 11:44:34 GMT -5 willywonka666 said:

I think a cool unit would be Bret, Anvil, Davey Boy, Benoit and Jericho-with Jimmy Hart

Jericho with Jimmy would have been a lot of fun.

[corndog]

When they all joined, I thought they were going to do something along these lines. Obviously they couldn't call themselves the Hart Foundation, as that was trademarked by WWE. Benoit was the obvious answer for the non-Hart related member, and I don't know who else besides Jericho I would have brought in. I think the real reason this never happened was Hogan and the nWo.

[toodarkmark]

I think they could have called it the Hart Dungeon, had no issues with IP, and feuded with WCW and nWo as a "wrestling over entertainment" faction. Bret, Davey Boy, Neidhart, Jericho, Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero, Saturn. Terry Funk, who was close to the family could have joined too.

[evilone]

Mar 3, 2019 11:54:46 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

They were already shit deep on the wwf lawsuit because they were stupid enough to write Diesel and Razor in a program’s sheet when they debuted, they weren’t gonna risk another lawsuit.

Yeah I don't get that either, someone was really stupid back there. They could have put Vegas and Stud instead.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Mar 3, 2019 12:21:51 GMT -5 evilone said:

Mar 3, 2019 11:54:46 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

They were already shit deep on the wwf lawsuit because they were stupid enough to write Diesel and Razor in a program’s sheet when they debuted, they weren’t gonna risk another lawsuit.

Yeah I don't get that either, someone was really stupid back there. They could have put Vegas and Stud instead.

Tony Schiavone: The reason we lost the war was because we were f***ing idiots. WCW was destined to die from day one.

[agent817]

Mar 3, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5 @irontyger said:

Mar 3, 2019 11:44:34 GMT -5 willywonka666 said:

I think a cool unit would be Bret, Anvil, Davey Boy, Benoit and Jericho-with Jimmy Hart

Jericho with Jimmy would have been a lot of fun.

But did Jericho really need a manager, though? Jericho was great on the mic and Jimmy Hart usually was the mouthpiece for all of the wrestlers he managed.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Neidhart and Bulldog were pretty much falling apart physically by this time, so I can't imagine this would have amounted to much more than they already did in WCW.

[Glitch]

A good way they could have avoided being entangled with the nwo was if this version of the Harts feuded with Raven's flock. As others suggested, having Jericho and Benoit would have filled up the team nicely.

[AKIMan64]

Mar 3, 2019 11:44:34 GMT -5 willywonka666 said:

I think a cool unit would be Bret, Anvil, Davey Boy, Benoit and Jericho-with Jimmy Hart

I played GM Mode in Smackdown vs Raw 2006 and created a custom made faction with those members in them. Amazing how there was a time when they were on the same roster, but couldn’t cross paths for contractual reasons.

[celtics543]

If you want to avoid all the issues with Neidhart and Bulldog altogether just have Bret start Team Canada to feud with the nWo factions and WCW. It could have been Bret, Benoit, Jericho, and maybe a newly signed Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon or Lance Storm, have them all managed by Jimmy Hart playing off the connection between Bret and Jimmy from the Hart Foundation days.

If you want someone else then have Rude or Hennig join them as well.

[Deleted]

It would have been a hell of a lot better than the trash we got, that’s for sure.

[Milkman Norm]

The obvious answer is that WCW should have signed Bruce Hart and had him lead the group.