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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 23:37:02 GMT -5
I hope that she’s good in the ring, because this gimmick she’s got is DOA. Oh yeah, her gimmick is shit. She's a marine who uses the Air Force logo for some reason, who also seems to think she lives in the past, who's also a sassy southerner, who's also apparently a runway model. It desperately needs to be smoothed down because it's just too convoluted to work as it stands. Gah, it's like the characters my friend had us make using the Burning Wheel system.
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 6, 2019 2:26:02 GMT -5
I like a retro look for a woman wrestler; the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s are a treasure trove of possibilities for inspiration. If she'd been billed as coming from Rockford, IL for example and came out wearing a retro baseball uniform for ring gear, calling her the Rockford Peach would catch on in a heartbeat, I think. A Rosie the Riveter getup would likewise tell her gimmick the moment she stepped out onto the ramp.
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Post by bearned on Mar 6, 2019 2:35:36 GMT -5
It’s a terrible gimmick and she isn’t good enough to make it work.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 6, 2019 2:35:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah, her gimmick is shit. She's a marine who uses the Air Force logo for some reason, who also seems to think she lives in the past, who's also a sassy southerner, who's also apparently a runway model. It desperately needs to be smoothed down because it's just too convoluted to work as it stands. I couldn’t disagree more. Wrestling needs gimmicks and if she tones it down, she’s no different to Alexa Bliss or Charlotte or any other “generic blonde woman” This is where WWE needs vignettes to introduce debuting wrestlers. They stopped this presumably because fans became familiar with them through NXT. But they served to let you know exactly who these people were and why we should care about them. It's one of the things I miss in modern wrestling, and yet another thing I hope AEW picks up on going forward.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 6, 2019 2:58:13 GMT -5
Yeah who does she think she is? Liberty Belle?
And what's a mother without her child? Just a person.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Mar 6, 2019 3:20:07 GMT -5
What I would say is that the Jericho fakeouts are nowhere near as effective as they think they are.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 6, 2019 3:29:14 GMT -5
I couldn’t disagree more. Wrestling needs gimmicks and if she tones it down, she’s no different to Alexa Bliss or Charlotte or any other “generic blonde woman” This is where WWE needs vignettes to introduce debuting wrestlers. They stopped this presumably because fans became familiar with them through NXT. But they served to let you know exactly who these people were and why we should care about them. It's one of the things I miss in modern wrestling, and yet another thing I hope AEW picks up on going forward. They ran vignettes for Evans, though. And Nikki Cross, and EC3, and Heavy Machinery. It’s the follow-up that’s the problem.
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Post by Steveweiser on Mar 6, 2019 3:47:48 GMT -5
Team the Sassy Southern Belle up with the Austrian Anomaly.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Mar 6, 2019 5:50:19 GMT -5
I’m already bored with it. Hopefully they do something meaningful with the character but I don’t have high hopes for it.
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Post by Thunderbolt on Mar 6, 2019 8:41:54 GMT -5
Seriously though, why does she use the Air Force logo when she was a marine?
And since she was a marine, she's just about guaranteed to make it into a Marine movie. Maybe The Marine 14: The Search for John Cena's Rogaine. Cena has been captured by the enemy and forced to grow his hair out so he looks like a total putz. Lacey Evans has to go deep into enemy territory to deliver the super soldier hair regrowth formula that Cena's hair needs!
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Mar 6, 2019 8:45:24 GMT -5
Yeah who does she think she is? Liberty Belle? And what's a mother without her child? Just a person.
The Riott Squad try to tear the only picture of her daughter. Or just smear it with mustard.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Mar 6, 2019 8:45:41 GMT -5
Another failed start to an NXT call-up. It's the same thing I cited before about Tyler Breeze and Emma. Why is she the Sassy Southern Belle? All she's done is come out, walk down the aisle, and walk back up. They've done nothing to tell us why she had that moniker.
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Post by Thunderbolt on Mar 6, 2019 9:10:26 GMT -5
Another failed start to an NXT call-up. It's the same thing I cited before about Tyler Breeze and Emma. Why is she the Sassy Southern Belle? All she's done is come out, walk down the aisle, and walk back up. They've done nothing to tell us why she had that moniker. Maybe we should consider her strut to be extraordinarily sassy?
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Post by Totorob101 on Mar 6, 2019 9:14:48 GMT -5
The problem i have with her is shes got all the tools to be a popular,rootable baby face (military background, doting mother) yet behind her gimmick is just another bitchy heel which we dont need.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 6, 2019 9:48:34 GMT -5
And what's a mother without her child? Just a person.
The Riott Squad try to tear the only picture of her daughter. Or just smear it with mustard. Those scoundrels!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 9:59:31 GMT -5
It's too convoluted. Fans need to be able to recognize and identify with things very quickly. If weeks go by and we're still going "wtf is this?" then it's dead.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 6, 2019 10:01:37 GMT -5
My reaction went something like this
"The Sassy Southern Belle"
Oh f*** off.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Mar 6, 2019 12:52:51 GMT -5
I hope that she’s good in the ring, because this gimmick she’s got is DOA. Oh yeah, her gimmick is shit. She's a marine who uses the Air Force logo for some reason, who also seems to think she lives in the past, who's also a sassy southerner, who's also apparently a runway model. It desperately needs to be smoothed down because it's just too convoluted to work as it stands. Thank you. I've been saying since forever that her gimmick should have been basically "female Sgt. Slaughter", but not just a female version...what I mean is: She was a drill sergeant, a legitimate one. Has anyone seen the video of her running rookie drills at the PC? She could have been an butt-kicking Marine and been over like rover. It would be a nice nod to all the women who are drill sergeants, some I know, who could whip any male. Isn't your gimmick in The E supposed to be "your-personality-cranked-up-to-11" anyway? I know it sounds like it's just "girl Slaughter", but it would be really neat if they could write her gimmick in a subtle, nuanced way and I think I just answered my own question as I type this sentence.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 6, 2019 13:10:24 GMT -5
This is where WWE needs vignettes to introduce debuting wrestlers. They stopped this presumably because fans became familiar with them through NXT. But they served to let you know exactly who these people were and why we should care about them. It's one of the things I miss in modern wrestling, and yet another thing I hope AEW picks up on going forward. They ran vignettes for Evans, though. And Nikki Cross, and EC3, and Heavy Machinery. It’s the follow-up that’s the problem. Those weren’t really vignettes though, they were more like video packages of their NXT work. I was thinking of something on a set where they cut a promo, so fans really see what their gimmick is and wonder about how they will debut, like we used to see in the 90’s.
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Post by Shai on Mar 6, 2019 13:34:04 GMT -5
Lacey is another case of someone's real life views making me not care about them so she's an instant channel changer for me.
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