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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 6, 2019 18:22:20 GMT -5
I'm not saying she needs to completely dismiss the gimmick, I'm just saying pick an aspect to focus on. It has too many layers. It's exactly the kind of incoherent conceptual mess i'd expect from creative, they definitely need to find something to work and drop some of the other bits. It's too much happening here and it's not forming a singular, coherent character who holds any interest, it's turning her into a weird contradictory mess of traits that while not necessarily incompatible, don't complement each other or work to create something interesting. Wrestlers need characters, but they need characters the audience can look at and understand. Right now Lacey Evans feels like a f***ing Nyquil dream I wish I could remember the details of the piece, but DDP once talked about his early heel days in WCW and how he asked someone (I forget who) for advice and the person bluntly told DDP that he was carrying too many gimmicks and that's why no one gave a crap. Paraphrasing - "You got the girl, you got the bodyguard, you talk on the mic during things, you got the money thing, you got the stogie and shades...pick one or two. You've got too much going on."
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Mar 7, 2019 14:35:35 GMT -5
i am SOOOOOOOO waiting for someone to not enjoy this ..... and flatten her! nattie was about to by the looks of it! but I like her she should wait until a big move happens in the ring and she would pop out and say CLASSY!!!
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Mar 7, 2019 15:42:03 GMT -5
It's really weird that the WWE likes to discard people's first/last names whilst giving them awkward nicknames with too many words. If Vince is still around and running the company in ten years, I imagine we'll have superstars with names like: "The Incomparable Lord and Master of the Ruthless Administration of Extraordinary Amounts of PAIN" Larry
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Post by Squirrel Master on Mar 7, 2019 21:57:32 GMT -5
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Mar 7, 2019 22:14:16 GMT -5
i am SOOOOOOOO waiting for someone to not enjoy this ..... and flatten her! nattie was about to by the looks of it! but I like her she should wait until a big move happens in the ring and she would pop out and say CLASSY!!! It's most likely going to be Asuka.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 7, 2019 22:16:09 GMT -5
At least we know who her MMC partner can be:
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 7, 2019 22:28:39 GMT -5
Lacey is another case of someone's real life views making me not care about them so she's an instant channel changer for me. Yeah, and for some reason she is getting a pass whereas Lars, Ronda and co. don't. (not saying they should, but the selective outrage is sometimes hard to get my head around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 1:52:30 GMT -5
Lacey is another case of someone's real life views making me not care about them so she's an instant channel changer for me. Yeah, and for some reason she is getting a pass whereas Lars, Ronda and co. don't. (not saying they should, but the selective outrage is sometimes hard to get my head around. Has anyone except that one wrestler said anything about Lacey being homophobic (if that's what this is about)? With Lars we have proof he said all of those stupid things. I haven't really paid attention though, so maybe someone can fill me in.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 8, 2019 2:01:10 GMT -5
Yeah, and for some reason she is getting a pass whereas Lars, Ronda and co. don't. (not saying they should, but the selective outrage is sometimes hard to get my head around. Has anyone except that one wrestler said anything about Lacey being homophobic (if that's what this is about)? With Lars we have proof he said all of those stupid things. I haven't really paid attention though, so maybe someone can fill me in. Granted I haven't really been keeping track but supposedly she dressed her kid up in blackface.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 8, 2019 3:34:10 GMT -5
Has anyone except that one wrestler said anything about Lacey being homophobic (if that's what this is about)? With Lars we have proof he said all of those stupid things. I haven't really paid attention though, so maybe someone can fill me in. Granted I haven't really been keeping track but supposedly she dressed her kid up in blackface. I believe the kid was meant to be the werewolf girl from the Monster High dolls/cartoon... I can see how it’d look bad, but I don’t know enough about the cartoon to know whether the character is presented as African-American or not. The voice actress being Caucasian doesn’t make things easier, either. Either way, it probably would have been best to forgo authenticity and forget the skin colour and avoid the controversy altogether.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 8, 2019 6:24:48 GMT -5
The first round of NXT Callups, a review so far
Lars Sullivan: Never debuted and may never debut
Nikki Cross: On house shows and hasn't been seen in weeks
EC3: A mute who beat Ambrose but Ambrose beat him right back. Has been regulated to still being a mute and losing to Apollo Crews on Main Event
Lacey Evans: Has not competed since the Rumble, gimmick is walking out and walking back randomly
Heavy Machinery: The only people doing ANYTHING of note, and while their gimmick isn't quite over on FAN at least they're on TV every week and getting matches where they look good.
Overall, WWE sucks with handling NXT Talent, it's pretty simple.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 8, 2019 10:33:56 GMT -5
The first round of NXT Callups, a review so far Lars Sullivan: Never debuted and may never debut Nikki Cross: On house shows and hasn't been seen in weeks EC3: A mute who beat Ambrose but Ambrose beat him right back. Has been regulated to still being a mute and losing to Apollo Crews on Main Event Lacey Evans: Has not competed since the Rumble, gimmick is walking out and walking back randomly Heavy Machinery: The only people doing ANYTHING of note, and while their gimmick isn't quite over on FAN at least they're on TV every week and getting matches where they look good. Overall, WWE sucks with handling NXT Talent, it's pretty simple. At least Aleister Black and Ricochet have been handled well so far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:40:57 GMT -5
It's exactly the kind of incoherent conceptual mess i'd expect from creative, they definitely need to find something to work and drop some of the other bits. It's too much happening here and it's not forming a singular, coherent character who holds any interest, it's turning her into a weird contradictory mess of traits that while not necessarily incompatible, don't complement each other or work to create something interesting. Wrestlers need characters, but they need characters the audience can look at and understand. Right now Lacey Evans feels like a f***ing Nyquil dream I wish I could remember the details of the piece, but DDP once talked about his early heel days in WCW and how he asked someone (I forget who) for advice and the person bluntly told DDP that he was carrying too many gimmicks and that's why no one gave a crap. Paraphrasing - "You got the girl, you got the bodyguard, you talk on the mic during things, you got the money thing, you got the stogie and shades...pick one or two. You've got too much going on." That was Randy Savage who told him that. DDP probably told that story many times, but the time I recall was when he made a video right after Macho's death talking about how much he helped him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:49:26 GMT -5
The first round of NXT Callups, a review so far Lars Sullivan: Never debuted and may never debut Nikki Cross: On house shows and hasn't been seen in weeks EC3: A mute who beat Ambrose but Ambrose beat him right back. Has been regulated to still being a mute and losing to Apollo Crews on Main Event Lacey Evans: Has not competed since the Rumble, gimmick is walking out and walking back randomly Heavy Machinery: The only people doing ANYTHING of note, and while their gimmick isn't quite over on FAN at least they're on TV every week and getting matches where they look good. Overall, WWE sucks with handling NXT Talent, it's pretty simple. At least Aleister Black and Ricochet have been handled well so far. They're both already pretty over, which is what I was expecting. I just wish they'd give them both an actual feud/angle instead of just the "cool NXT guys showing up and doing sweet moves" treatment.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 8, 2019 13:11:36 GMT -5
Hell, give her even more simultaneous gimmicks.
-Heel postal worker
-Shakira impersonator
-'Color Me Badd' groupie
-Astronaut
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Post by Spider2024 on Mar 8, 2019 19:03:40 GMT -5
So they want her to be sassy?
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 8, 2019 21:11:21 GMT -5
Granted I haven't really been keeping track but supposedly she dressed her kid up in blackface. I believe the kid was meant to be the werewolf girl from the Monster High dolls/cartoon... I can see how it’d look bad, but I don’t know enough about the cartoon to know whether the character is presented as African-American or not. The voice actress being Caucasian doesn’t make things easier, either. Either way, it probably would have been best to forgo authenticity and forget the skin colour and avoid the controversy altogether. Yeah, perhaps it's ignorance rather than hate. I only know what my black friend tells me, and if she's offended I'm certainly not in a position to argue with that.
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Post by Perd on Mar 8, 2019 21:32:50 GMT -5
I’ve entered this thread, only to leave it, several times. Very meta.
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Post by Shark on Mar 9, 2019 1:58:01 GMT -5
And now she gets to feud with Natalya and I think I might kill myself now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 11:29:35 GMT -5
The first round of NXT Callups, a review so far Lars Sullivan: Never debuted and may never debut Nikki Cross: On house shows and hasn't been seen in weeks EC3: A mute who beat Ambrose but Ambrose beat him right back. Has been regulated to still being a mute and losing to Apollo Crews on Main Event Lacey Evans: Has not competed since the Rumble, gimmick is walking out and walking back randomly Heavy Machinery: The only people doing ANYTHING of note, and while their gimmick isn't quite over on FAN at least they're on TV every week and getting matches where they look good. Overall, WWE sucks with handling NXT Talent, it's pretty simple. Lacey did have a match with Natalya on Main Event a week or two after the Rumble. Natalya won clean ducking the Woman's Right into the sharpshooter
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