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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 8, 2019 18:41:31 GMT -5
if they keep torpedoing it I wouldn't be shocked if it gets the "Special Main Event" opener slot <_< In fairness this was an amazing match.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 8, 2019 18:42:39 GMT -5
In fairness this was an amazing match. And the reason it was there made sense, not to get in that subject.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 18:46:50 GMT -5
In fairness this was an amazing match. It was a great match. I was just surprised to find out it would open but then I read something about Cena having an arrangement so they changed things up.
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Post by brown bricks on Mar 8, 2019 18:47:42 GMT -5
I get that ol’ Shooter McGavin here is “workin’ the marks”, but holy lord do I hate stuff like this. Good wrestling/wrestling stories do not need to remind you it’s scripted constantly. Why in the world should I care about any of this stuff if you’re telling me it doesn’t matter and it’s “fake”?
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 8, 2019 19:05:44 GMT -5
This reeks of the Goldberg-Steiner-Nash feud about going off the script. Right now we have our early Gooker frontrunner.
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Post by Spider2024 on Mar 8, 2019 19:08:30 GMT -5
Wasn't she taking a break after Mania anyway?
I heard she wants to have a baby.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 8, 2019 19:15:35 GMT -5
I get that ol’ Shooter McGavin here is “workin’ the marks”, but holy lord do I hate stuff like this. Good wrestling/wrestling stories do not need to remind you it’s scripted constantly. Why in the world should I care about any of this stuff if you’re telling me it doesn’t matter and it’s “fake”? “I eat pieces of shit like you @beckylynchwwe for breakfast” “You eat pieces of shit for breakfast @rondarousey?”
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:24:22 GMT -5
I get that ol’ Shooter McGavin here is “workin’ the marks”, but holy lord do I hate stuff like this. Good wrestling/wrestling stories do not need to remind you it’s scripted constantly. Why in the world should I care about any of this stuff if you’re telling me it doesn’t matter and it’s “fake”? “I eat pieces of shit like you @beckylynchwwe for breakfast” “You eat pieces of shit for breakfast @rondarousey?” Ronda: "Your ass, my face, bitch! I mean my face, your ass!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:30:41 GMT -5
I'm not saying this is a great idea or anything but there's a decent chance that the emotion you guys are putting into this is exactly how they want you to react. I don't care who is responsible, or if they both are Nah.
SRS from Fightful said Ronda and Becky started off in character on Twitter and Ronda really got frustrated, went off the rails and now the company's trying to make it seem like it's all part of the storyline when really it's not.
This is the gal yall said would be able to hold up a WM main event feud. Ronda couldn't cut it months ago, she can't cut it now. Meltzer says it's part of the plan so it's really up to what you believe. I don't really have a strong opinion either way but I do feel the stink about this whole deal is pretty overblown. It's still pretty easy for me to believe Ronda can have a great main event. WWE can't write good stories and Ronda is bad at Twitter but those women can have great matches.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Mar 8, 2019 19:34:07 GMT -5
This reeks of the Goldberg-Steiner-Nash feud about going off the script. Right now we have our early Gooker frontrunner. This decade has proven that WCW 2000 was ridiculously ahead of its time and I f***ing hate that it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:39:26 GMT -5
Meltzer says it's part of the plan so it's really up to what you believe. I don't really have a strong opinion either way but I do feel the stink about this whole deal is pretty overblown. It's still pretty easy for me to believe Ronda can have a great main event. WWE can't write good stories and Ronda is bad at Twitter but those women can have great matches. Fightful's comment was referencing Meltzer's and they also said that lately WWE's been feeding out way incorrect information to insiders in hopes of the company being more cryptic with what they're really doing which is one reason why Alvarez heard Ambrose was leaving but Meltzer said he wasn't leaving. The point is, storylines shouldn't shouldn't be this way.
I don't think anyone said Ronda is going to have a bad match (given Ronda preps her matches days prior to the event it's easy for her to have a good match because others don't do this) but when people say she can't cut it we're talking about the feuds prior to the match, social media relations, the promos, all of that stuff that comes with it. Nobody said she's trash in the ring, we say she's trash in everything outside of the ring. Even if she can put on a good match that doesn't mean she's great in everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:40:02 GMT -5
This reeks of the Goldberg-Steiner-Nash feud about going off the script. Right now we have our early Gooker frontrunner. This decade has proven that WCW 2000 was ridiculously ahead of its time and I f***ing hate that it I just saw a tweet from Biscoff saying he likes the shit with Ronda so go figure.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:41:51 GMT -5
Meltzer says it's part of the plan so it's really up to what you believe. I don't really have a strong opinion either way but I do feel the stink about this whole deal is pretty overblown. It's still pretty easy for me to believe Ronda can have a great main event. WWE can't write good stories and Ronda is bad at Twitter but those women can have great matches. Fightful's comment was referencing Meltzer's and they also said that lately WWE's been feeding out way incorrect information to insiders in hopes of the company being more cryptic with what they're really doing which is one reason why Alvarez heard Ambrose was leaving but Meltzer said he wasn't leaving. The point is, storylines shouldn't shouldn't be this way.
I don't think anyone said Ronda is going to have a bad match (given Ronda preps her matches days prior to the event it's easy for her to have a good match because others don't do this) but when people say she can't cut it we're talking about the feuds prior to the match, social media relations, the promos, all of that stuff that comes with it. Nobody said she's trash in the ring, we say she's trash in everything outside of the ring. Even if she can put on a good match that doesn't mean she's great in everything else.
And also... We've seen that she isn't always cool under fire in the ring either. Just look at how much the Sasha and Bayley matches fell apart.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:49:46 GMT -5
Fightful's comment was referencing Meltzer's and they also said that lately WWE's been feeding out way incorrect information to insiders in hopes of the company being more cryptic with what they're really doing which is one reason why Alvarez heard Ambrose was leaving but Meltzer said he wasn't leaving. The point is, storylines shouldn't shouldn't be this way.
I don't think anyone said Ronda is going to have a bad match (given Ronda preps her matches days prior to the event it's easy for her to have a good match because others don't do this) but when people say she can't cut it we're talking about the feuds prior to the match, social media relations, the promos, all of that stuff that comes with it. Nobody said she's trash in the ring, we say she's trash in everything outside of the ring. Even if she can put on a good match that doesn't mean she's great in everything else.
And also... We've seen that she isn't always cool under fire in the ring either. Just look at how much the Sasha and Bayley matches fell apart. We always say that there's certain superstars who you can see that the fan reactions get to them and she's one of them. It's just how she is. Remember when the fans booed her after her Sasha match and Ronda stumbled her words so much she said "ok you got me to stumble, good job" and tried to laugh it off?
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Post by Perd on Mar 8, 2019 19:50:31 GMT -5
I don’t know if it’s all a work, all a shoot, of a mix of both. What I do know, is that it sucks. Evause it’s gone past usual worked snoot BS. It’s not just using real names or not following the script. It’s flat out saying that the matches are fake. I don’t care that kayfabe is deader than disco. This is just plain stupid.
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Post by nickcave on Mar 8, 2019 19:52:24 GMT -5
We have finally reached 2000s WCW GOLDBERG ISN'T FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT level bullshit. Good job WWE. I'm so glad there's other wrestling to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:57:44 GMT -5
Meltzer says it's part of the plan so it's really up to what you believe. I don't really have a strong opinion either way but I do feel the stink about this whole deal is pretty overblown. It's still pretty easy for me to believe Ronda can have a great main event. WWE can't write good stories and Ronda is bad at Twitter but those women can have great matches. Fightful's comment was referencing Meltzer's and they also said that lately WWE's been feeding out way incorrect information to insiders in hopes of the company being more cryptic with what they're really doing which is one reason why Alvarez heard Ambrose was leaving but Meltzer said he wasn't leaving. The point is, storylines shouldn't shouldn't be this way.
I don't think anyone said Ronda is going to have a bad match (given Ronda preps her matches days prior to the event it's easy for her to have a good match because others don't do this) but when people say she can't cut it we're talking about the feuds prior to the match, social media relations, the promos, all of that stuff that comes with it. Nobody said she's trash in the ring, we say she's trash in everything outside of the ring. Even if she can put on a good match that doesn't mean she's great in everything else.
I personally find the "everything else" just isn't really that important. I have no trouble believing Ronda is losing her mind just because of the way she is, but I could also buy into this being a controlled thing because it's wrestling. I just find the emphasis on this Twitter stuff pointless either way, either we're getting worked, they're working themselves, I just don't pay much mind to it because it's all noise. The TV product is the thing that tells us what's really happening. I just find it weird that people are dwelling on Twitter shit as if that has much to do with TV. The TV feud isn't really good either but it's about on par with their usual fare. Not a disaster but it's not exceptional in any way. Ronda going on a tear on social media isn't necessarily a bad thing, her getting everyone all stirred up can work in their favor if they work with it. I agree that wrestling stories shouldn't have to be told this way, but I dunno I'm no booker, I can see why one would fancy taking steps like this to stir up some heated emotions. For me I'm willing to wait till all is said and done before I make much a fuss about it now, I just can't declare this thing dead in the water based on Twitter garbage. It's not what it could've been but what is in WWE?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 20:02:45 GMT -5
Fightful's comment was referencing Meltzer's and they also said that lately WWE's been feeding out way incorrect information to insiders in hopes of the company being more cryptic with what they're really doing which is one reason why Alvarez heard Ambrose was leaving but Meltzer said he wasn't leaving. The point is, storylines shouldn't shouldn't be this way.
I don't think anyone said Ronda is going to have a bad match (given Ronda preps her matches days prior to the event it's easy for her to have a good match because others don't do this) but when people say she can't cut it we're talking about the feuds prior to the match, social media relations, the promos, all of that stuff that comes with it. Nobody said she's trash in the ring, we say she's trash in everything outside of the ring. Even if she can put on a good match that doesn't mean she's great in everything else.
I personally find the "everything else" just isn't really that important. I have no trouble believing Ronda is losing her mind just because of the way she is, but I could also buy into this being a controlled thing because it's wrestling. I just find the emphasis on this Twitter stuff pointless either way, either we're getting worked, they're working themselves, I just don't pay much mind to it because it's all noise. The TV product is the thing that tells us what's really happening. I just find it weird that people are dwelling on Twitter shit as if that has much to do with TV. The TV feud isn't really good either but it's about on par with their usual fare. Not a disaster but it's not exceptional in any way. Ronda going on a tear on social media isn't necessarily a bad thing, her getting everyone all stirred up can work in their favor if they work with it. I agree that wrestling stories shouldn't have to be told this way, but I dunno I'm no booker, I can see why one would fancy taking steps like this to stir up some heated emotions. For me I'm willing to wait till all is said and done before I make much a fuss about it now, I just can't declare this thing dead in the water based on Twitter garbage. It's not what it could've been but what is in WWE? You find that everything else that isn't the actual match not important? That includes the feuding before the event, the promos, the match build, all of that stuff? That's what I'm talking about when I say the other stuff. The "other stuff" isn't just social media. It's promos, it's the actual feuding elements before the match, it's the interactions before the match, it's everything surrounding the match itself and those things have Ronda shitting the bed in it.
You can say that you don't get why people are bringing up the social media stuff but the reality is today's generation is on social media so it's part of our lives and in turn they bring this type of entertainment to social media. It's no different than musicians moving from promoting their albums through commercials to promoting them on social media. When the fans use social media to where it impacts their life and they see this feud on social media? That's just as effective as a real-life promo given the company's wanting these superstars to use social media any way possible.
I get why you're saying that you won't make a fuss about it but not everybody thinks that way. That's why people are upset with what Ronda said in the first place.
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 8, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -5
This decade has proven that WCW 2000 was ridiculously ahead of its time and I f***ing hate that it I just saw a tweet from Biscoff saying he likes the shit with Ronda so go figure. I BISCOFF at his argument.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Mar 8, 2019 20:19:45 GMT -5
You know, oddly enough, this whole situation kind of makes me feel bad for Jessamyn Duke and Marina Shafir. Those two were specifically hired for one reason: Horsewomen vs. Horsewomen. Rousey, Baszler, Duke and Shafir vs. Becky, Charlotte, Sasha and Bayley. Now, Baszler is set; she already had 2-3 years of pro wrestling experience under her belt before the Mae Young Classic, and she clearly "gets" wrestling. But Duke and Shafir were put on NXT TV too quickly, so Baszler could have her goons. They're not nearly good enough in the ring yet to justify their push, and definitely not main roster material. The one thing that guaranteed them an automatic spot on the main roster was the eventual Horsewomen vs. Horsewomen match.
But now, Ronda's lost her G-D mind, and it's apparent that after Wrestlemania, she's not coming back for a long time, if ever, and the rest of the roster likely doesn't want her back. So the Horsewomen match, and WWE's main reason for keeping the two of them around, is quickly fading into the distance, and they may not have enough time to get better in the ring before WWE decides to cut their losses and say "hey, Ronda's gone, and the Horsewomen match isn't happening, so we really don't need you anymore. Future endeavors, blah, blah, blah, hit the bricks".
In short, Ronda may have not only screwed her career, but her friends' careers as well.
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