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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 10, 2019 22:51:12 GMT -5
Wrestling isn't difficult to write when the players are over. There's very little reason for any of this shit to actually be going the way it is.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 12, 2019 18:45:24 GMT -5
It's going to make perfect sense, and be achievable in four weeks. No worries.
Kofi has to beat Goldberg's undefeated streak before Mania. It'll be easy. We even have Schiavone.
What, we don't have Schiavone? Okay, we have lots of footage of Schiavone.
What's that? All of the footage is terrible?
...Go out there and have your damn match, Kofi.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2019 19:55:57 GMT -5
I'm willing to cut them some slack on this
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 21:08:39 GMT -5
I'll go ahead and walk this back, tonight's shit was fantastic.
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Post by Abdullah on Mar 12, 2019 21:14:04 GMT -5
I'll go ahead and walk this back, tonight's shit was fantastic. And yet more good news: they don’t have enough air time to really ruin it if they wanted to. They’re actually elevating a WWE title match for the first time since 2016. The women’s triple threat suffered because it’s the company’s pet project. Thankfully, Kofi is not.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 12, 2019 21:17:58 GMT -5
I'll go ahead and walk this back, tonight's shit was fantastic. And yet more good news: they don’t have enough air time to really ruin it if they wanted to. They’re actually elevating a WWE title match for the first time since 2016. The women’s triple threat suffered because it’s the company’s pet project. Thankfully, Kofi is not. Actually Kofi kind of is
Vince is putting his personal stamp on this as a character. The thing is, the expectations of making this a main event isn't there so therefore it is freeflowing and add on Kofi and DB both being outspoken guys along witht he roster being supportive of Kofi, it is a good storm going right now
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Mar 12, 2019 21:25:17 GMT -5
I watched tonight and honestly I still get nothing from Vince's inclusion in this whatsoever. Just feels really hollow and forced and like they're totally making stuff up as they go along as to why Vince even vaguely doesn't like him.
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Post by Abdullah on Mar 12, 2019 21:25:24 GMT -5
And yet more good news: they don’t have enough air time to really ruin it if they wanted to. They’re actually elevating a WWE title match for the first time since 2016. The women’s triple threat suffered because it’s the company’s pet project. Thankfully, Kofi is not. Actually Kofi kind of is Vince is putting his personal stamp on this as a character. The thing is, the expectations of making this a main event isn't there so therefore it is freeflowing and add on Kofi and DB both being outspoken guys along witht he roster being supportive of Kofi, it is a good storm going right now
Yeah, that’s a better way to put it. It’s not a first ever for the women and there’s no Ronda Rousey. It’s, in the best sense, more lowkey.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 12, 2019 21:29:38 GMT -5
I like the idea.
My only problem is that the WWE title just doesn't feel worth this sort of effort. This doesn't actually feel like any sort of potentially glass ceiling shattering event, which is a problem considering that's basically the story they're trying to tell. It's just that the WWE title doesn't feel important at all right now.
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Post by Rican on Mar 12, 2019 21:33:46 GMT -5
I don’t like the Vince inclusion but he did play his part well tonight. And Kofi has risen to a level I didn’t know he was capable of throughout this whole thing. I’ve always liked Kofi but he’s knocking it out of the park.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:41:13 GMT -5
Really good promo from Kofi tonight. He's their most over babyface at the moment and Bryan their top heel, they should main event.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:43:18 GMT -5
I watched tonight and honestly I still get nothing from Vince's inclusion in this whatsoever. Just feels really hollow and forced and like they're totally making stuff up as they go along as to why Vince even vaguely doesn't like him. I thought that segment fleshed it out pretty well. Kofi is goofy pancake guy, it's not that Vince doesn't like him, it's that he doesn't see "box office smash" in him. It's pretty consistent to how Vince usually treats smaller underdog guys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:47:56 GMT -5
I like the idea. My only problem is that the WWE title just doesn't feel worth this sort of effort. This doesn't actually feel like any sort of potentially glass ceiling shattering event, which is a problem considering that's basically the story they're trying to tell. It's just that the WWE title doesn't feel important at all right now. I disagree with this as well. Kofi has been fighting like hell for an honest shot at the title, Bryan has been eking his way through numerous active challengers coming for him. I wish all the titles could be as hotly contested for as the WWE title has been.
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Mar 12, 2019 22:48:01 GMT -5
So Vince hates Kofi because... reasons, and now you just have to assume Kofi's going to shrug off him and his friends being savagely beaten down to focus on getting the belt instead. And also apparently Vince loathes Kofi but is perfectly fine with putting Mustafa Ali in the position to win the belt even though the only notable difference between them is that Ali didn't earn it.Actually he did because he pinned Daniel Bryan in a tag team match. Title matches aren't only given when someone wins a no #1 contenders match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:56:37 GMT -5
So Vince hates Kofi because... reasons, and now you just have to assume Kofi's going to shrug off him and his friends being savagely beaten down to focus on getting the belt instead. And also apparently Vince loathes Kofi but is perfectly fine with putting Mustafa Ali in the position to win the belt even though the only notable difference between them is that Ali didn't earn it.Actually he did because he pinned Daniel Bryan in a tag team match. Title matches aren't only given when someone wins a no #1 contenders match. Granted, but that was like three months ago and Ali hasn't won a match since.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Mar 12, 2019 23:18:50 GMT -5
I watched tonight and honestly I still get nothing from Vince's inclusion in this whatsoever. Just feels really hollow and forced and like they're totally making stuff up as they go along as to why Vince even vaguely doesn't like him. I thought that segment fleshed it out pretty well. Kofi is goofy pancake guy, it's not that Vince doesn't like him, it's that he doesn't see "box office smash" in him. It's pretty consistent to how Vince usually treats smaller underdog guys. That's such a total copy and paste of the Bryan angle though, except without nearly as much anything behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 23:47:10 GMT -5
I thought that segment fleshed it out pretty well. Kofi is goofy pancake guy, it's not that Vince doesn't like him, it's that he doesn't see "box office smash" in him. It's pretty consistent to how Vince usually treats smaller underdog guys. That's such a total copy and paste of the Bryan angle though, except without nearly as much anything behind it. Sure but it's wrestling, how many ways could this play out that hasn't been done before? To me it's a competent story, it has a good cast of villains and heroes, Kofi is super over right now, I don't know what Bryan's story had behind it that this doesn't, outside of WWE not paying attention and letting the fans get boiling mad at them for it.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Mar 12, 2019 23:51:55 GMT -5
They can't help themselves. They have to book wild storyline nonsense every single week. They think it'll help boost ratings, but simple stories that people can get behind will do that far more effectively. Still not as bad as the Becky situation. She was literally the hottest thing in a decade, and they gave her a crutch, dozens of weird Ronda promos, and added Charlotte. Becky at this point is over in spite of the WWE, which is remarkable
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Mar 13, 2019 0:06:37 GMT -5
That's such a total copy and paste of the Bryan angle though, except without nearly as much anything behind it. Sure but it's wrestling, how many ways could this play out that hasn't been done before? To me it's a competent story, it has a good cast of villains and heroes, Kofi is super over right now, I don't know what Bryan's story had behind it that this doesn't, outside of WWE not paying attention and letting the fans get boiling mad at them for it. By not lazily repeating the same stuff that just happened 5 years ago. Like, just because WWE's bad at writing new ideas doesn't mean they can't. Also, Bryan was a billion times more over and everything involving him had 10000x more fire behind it because it felt infinitely more real. For as much as I still want Kofi to win the belt, everything with him is absolutely hella sudden (not in a bad way tho!) regardless of how long he's been there and with McMahon he just feels like a dude in an angle. It doesn't help matters that there's another McMahon angle going on at the exact same time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 0:15:08 GMT -5
Sure but it's wrestling, how many ways could this play out that hasn't been done before? To me it's a competent story, it has a good cast of villains and heroes, Kofi is super over right now, I don't know what Bryan's story had behind it that this doesn't, outside of WWE not paying attention and letting the fans get boiling mad at them for it. By not lazily repeating the same stuff that just happened 5 years ago. Like, just because WWE's bad at writing new ideas doesn't mean they can't. Also, Bryan was a billion times more over and everything involving him had 10000x more fire behind it because it felt infinitely more real. For as much as I still want Kofi to win the belt, everything with him is absolutely hella sudden (not in a bad way tho!) regardless of how long he's been there and with McMahon he just feels like a dude in an angle. It doesn't help matters that there's another McMahon angle going on at the exact same time. I guess I'm a lot more forgiving of repetition. WWE are generally terrible at writing but still, they're writing over five hours of original weekly storytelling all year round, so I dunno, if something's good it's good to me. Wrestling's always fun when the fans are into what's happening and even repeated stories will have it's natural differences when performed by different guys/girls. Good story, good matches, good promos, fans are into it, all good to me.
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