WWE renews trademark for Tough Enough

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www.pwinsider.com/article/124782/wwe-reviving-tough-enough-again.html

You would think after this show's repeatedly failed to produce results or attract an audience they'd just give up on it already.

[A damn road sign]

Can we get a f***ing Maven cameo already? How’s that guy not turned up to dropkick a mofo on any of these nostalgia shows? Just one time. Please. ☹️

[Final Countdown Jones]

Could be WWE just being in a brief flash of copyright paranoia; it comes and goes as they learn and unlearn lessons, but right now they've got to be in pretty much full hoard mode on every IP at risk of needing renewal

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WE DID IT EVERYONE

WE PASSED VINCES TEST! (and Vince's Test, passed :[ )

Tough enough is being brought back as a biopic about those of us on FAN who keep the live threads going, and each other company, through 2015 and on booking.

[Macho Pichu]

Okay, WWE, in as many attempts as you've had with the idea, the winner of this show has yet to come out successful. There have been several losers who've done well, but that speaks to the show's ineffectiveness even more so.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Mar 12, 2019 5:40:13 GMT -5 Macho Pichu said:

Okay, WWE, in as many attempts as you've had with the idea, the winner of this show has yet to come out successful. There have been several losers who've done well, but that speaks to the show's ineffectiveness even more so.

John Morrison was a winner, so there's 1, hell, that's a better success rate than a few reality shows.

The point of reality shows is to make a good reality show, not what they say they're about.

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No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

[Spider2024]

Mar 12, 2019 5:52:04 GMT -5 @coolio1234 said:

No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

I think it's a good concept, and the first 3 seasons were at the very least more than decent, with the 4th season being decent for what it was. However, I thought the last two (2011, 2015) were trainwrecks of the not-so-good variety, quite frankly. So I'll be skeptical of the next season until I see it.

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Mar 12, 2019 5:52:04 GMT -5 @coolio1234 said:

No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

I agree. I always enjoy it and I’d watch another season of it on The Network.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Oh my god. Yessss.

I can’t wait to get my girlfriend to watch this terrible, terrible show.

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Mar 12, 2019 5:58:31 GMT -5 Spider2024 said:

Mar 12, 2019 5:52:04 GMT -5 @coolio1234 said:

No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

I think it's a good concept, and the first 3 seasons were at the very least more than decent, with the 4th season being decent for what it was. However, I thought the last two (2011, 2015) were trainwrecks of the not-so-good variety, quite frankly. So I'll be skeptical of the next season until I see it.

My favorites were from the early 00s.

[Jumpin' Jesse Walsh]

I just remembered how Bill DeMott harassed and bullied Ryan on the 2011 season simply because he didn't like his look or something, which looks even worse in hindsight given everything we know about DeMott now.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

If we're going to do another wrestling reality show, I'd rather a second season of Legends House.

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Mar 12, 2019 5:52:04 GMT -5 @coolio1234 said:

No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

Our problem isn't the show, it's the results from said show, which ultimately, should be the reason to have Tough Enough around (I mean, not every winner is going to be WWE Champion material, but some of the guys and gals they chose were... holy crap). Let's take a look at the winners, and just the winners (because the people who also participated managed to do decently, if not better than some of the winners).

Season 1: Maven & Nidia

Maven started out rather okay, managing to eliminate Undertaker at the Royal Rumble in 2002... and paying the price (although technically he wasn't eliminated from said Rumble, but due to the Rumble's constant changing of the rules, it's treated like when Hulk Hogan eliminated Big Boss Man), and also taking his Hardcore Championship, but WWE eventually got tired of him and by the end of 2004, aside from when they decided to put him with Orton's team at Survivor Series, he was a regular on Heat. Nidia also started out by being involved in an angle where she helped out Jamie Noble win matches, but eventually turned heel when she took his inheritance, but because she was on SmackDown... no title matches for you!

Season 2: Jackie Gayda & Linda Miles (Shaniqua)

Here's the short answer:



Here's a more direct answer; Jackie Gayda is best known for working in what is now known as "That Jackie Gayda Match", and you don't really need to go beyond that with her. Linda Miles's run is a bit more... strange. When WWE decided to bring up one of OVW's most popular feuds in Doug Basham & the Damajah, they made them a team, which wasn't the worst idea, considering how performers working against each other often wound up making the best partners. It was giving them an S&M gimmick and making Linda their dominatrix manager in Shaniqua because it was revealed she stunk in the ring almost as badly as Jackie that made things awkward. I still say the most bizarre part of the whole run was when the Bashams were feuding with the APA and Shaniqua took a Clothesline from Hell, and came back with a boob job, selling the clothesline as the reason her breasts got bigger. Both of them would not be on TV after 2003.

Season 3: Johnny Nitro & Matt Cappotelli

Considering that Cappotelli dealt with malignant brain tumors that affected him until his passing, forcing him to retire from wrestling, I don't think its fair to judge his career. The man who would go on to become Johnny Mundo is arguably the most successful person on this list, so there's not much else to discuss with these two.

Season 4: Daniel Puder

Puder's time in WWE consisted of him debuting as a heel, acting like a douche, and just getting slaughtered by a bunch of the old guard at the Royal Rumble in 2005 before being cast off unceremoniously and sent to OVW until they released him. Next!

Season 5: Andy Leavine

Ah, here we are. Mr. "Silent Rage" himself. Aside from getting a Stone Cold Stunner, Andy managed to do even less than Jackie Gayda.

Season 6: Sara Lee & Josh Bredl

I had to do some research to look them up to see what they wound up doing... which didn't really amount to much. Sara Lee barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. Josh Bredl… also barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. I'm starting to see a trend.

You're not going to get aces with every winner, but the point of having Tough Enough is that you should expect results. Sure, having a reality show is one thing, but some people also would like to see results come out of said reality show if the reward of winning said show is "you get a contract and can show what you're capable of in an industry".

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[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Mar 12, 2019 9:08:36 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

Mar 12, 2019 5:52:04 GMT -5 @coolio1234 said:

No offense to anyone, but why is any hate on Tough Enough? I thought it was a good reality based wrestling show.

Our problem isn't the show, it's the results from said show, which ultimately, should be the reason to have Tough Enough around (I mean, not every winner is going to be WWE Champion material, but some of the guys and gals they chose were... holy crap). Let's take a look at the winners, and just the winners (because the people who also participated managed to do decently, if not better than some of the winners).

Season 1: Maven & Nidia

Maven started out rather okay, managing to eliminate Undertaker at the Royal Rumble in 2002... and paying the price (although technically he wasn't eliminated from said Rumble, but due to the Rumble's constant changing of the rules, it's treated like when Hulk Hogan eliminated Big Boss Man), and also taking his Hardcore Championship, but WWE eventually got tired of him and by the end of 2004, aside from when they decided to put him with Orton's team at Survivor Series, he was a regular on Heat. Nidia also started out by being involved in an angle where she helped out Jamie Noble win matches, but eventually turned heel when she took his inheritance, but because she was on SmackDown... no title matches for you!

Season 2: Jackie Gayda & Linda Miles (Shaniqua)

Here's the short answer:



Here's a more direct answer; Jackie Gayda is best known for working in what is now known as "That Jackie Gayda Match", and you don't really need to go beyond that with her. Linda Miles's run is a bit more... strange. When WWE decided to bring up one of OVW's most popular feuds in Doug Basham & the Damajah, they made them a team, which wasn't the worst idea, considering how performers working against each other often wound up making the best partners. It was giving them an S&M gimmick and making Linda their dominatrix manager in Shaniqua because it was revealed she stunk in the ring almost as badly as Jackie that made things awkward. I still say the most bizarre part of the whole run was when the Bashams were feuding with the APA and Shaniqua took a Clothesline from Hell, and came back with a boob job, selling the clothesline as the reason her breasts got bigger. Both of them would not be on TV after 2003.

Season 3: Johnny Nitro & Matt Cappotelli

Considering that Cappotelli dealt with malignant brain tumors that affected him until his passing, forcing him to retire from wrestling, I don't think its fair to judge his career. The man who would go on to become Johnny Mundo is arguably the most successful person on this list, so there's not much else to discuss with these two.

Season 4: Daniel Puder

Puder's time in WWE consisted of him debuting as a heel, acting like a douche, and just getting slaughtered by a bunch of the old guard at the Royal Rumble in 2005 before being cast off unceremoniously and sent to OVW until they released him. Next!

Season 5: Andy Leavine

Ah, here we are. Mr. "Silent Rage" himself. Aside from getting a Stone Cold Stunner, Andy managed to do even less than Jackie Gayda.

Season 6: Sara Lee & Josh Bredl

I had to do some research to look them up to see what they wound up doing... which didn't really amount to much. Sara Lee barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. Josh Bredl… also barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. I'm starting to see a trend.

You're not going to get aces with every winner, but the point of having Tough Enough is that you should expect results. Sure, having a reality show is one thing, but some people also would like to see results come out of said reality show if the reward of winning said show is "you get a contract and can show what you're capable of in an industry".

Thing is with the premise of the show, taking rookies and training them, it's an unrealistic ambition.

Unless you get someone like an Angle/Brock/Baszler who picks up the business incredibly quickly, you're just going to have someone who has a few weeks of training. At that point, you either put them on TV to capitalise on the momentum they should have which will brutally expose them, or you send them away and train them properly, by which point the whole Tough Enough thing is a mostly forgotten footnote, so why bother with the show in the first place?

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Mar 12, 2019 9:26:46 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

Mar 12, 2019 9:08:36 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

Our problem isn't the show, it's the results from said show, which ultimately, should be the reason to have Tough Enough around (I mean, not every winner is going to be WWE Champion material, but some of the guys and gals they chose were... holy crap). Let's take a look at the winners, and just the winners (because the people who also participated managed to do decently, if not better than some of the winners).

Season 1: Maven & Nidia

Maven started out rather okay, managing to eliminate Undertaker at the Royal Rumble in 2002... and paying the price (although technically he wasn't eliminated from said Rumble, but due to the Rumble's constant changing of the rules, it's treated like when Hulk Hogan eliminated Big Boss Man), and also taking his Hardcore Championship, but WWE eventually got tired of him and by the end of 2004, aside from when they decided to put him with Orton's team at Survivor Series, he was a regular on Heat. Nidia also started out by being involved in an angle where she helped out Jamie Noble win matches, but eventually turned heel when she took his inheritance, but because she was on SmackDown... no title matches for you!

Season 2: Jackie Gayda & Linda Miles (Shaniqua)

Here's the short answer:



Here's a more direct answer; Jackie Gayda is best known for working in what is now known as "That Jackie Gayda Match", and you don't really need to go beyond that with her. Linda Miles's run is a bit more... strange. When WWE decided to bring up one of OVW's most popular feuds in Doug Basham & the Damajah, they made them a team, which wasn't the worst idea, considering how performers working against each other often wound up making the best partners. It was giving them an S&M gimmick and making Linda their dominatrix manager in Shaniqua because it was revealed she stunk in the ring almost as badly as Jackie that made things awkward. I still say the most bizarre part of the whole run was when the Bashams were feuding with the APA and Shaniqua took a Clothesline from Hell, and came back with a boob job, selling the clothesline as the reason her breasts got bigger. Both of them would not be on TV after 2003.

Season 3: Johnny Nitro & Matt Cappotelli

Considering that Cappotelli dealt with malignant brain tumors that affected him until his passing, forcing him to retire from wrestling, I don't think its fair to judge his career. The man who would go on to become Johnny Mundo is arguably the most successful person on this list, so there's not much else to discuss with these two.

Season 4: Daniel Puder

Puder's time in WWE consisted of him debuting as a heel, acting like a douche, and just getting slaughtered by a bunch of the old guard at the Royal Rumble in 2005 before being cast off unceremoniously and sent to OVW until they released him. Next!

Season 5: Andy Leavine

Ah, here we are. Mr. "Silent Rage" himself. Aside from getting a Stone Cold Stunner, Andy managed to do even less than Jackie Gayda.

Season 6: Sara Lee & Josh Bredl

I had to do some research to look them up to see what they wound up doing... which didn't really amount to much. Sara Lee barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. Josh Bredl… also barely did anything of note in WWE, aside from working NXT house shows in Florida. I'm starting to see a trend.

You're not going to get aces with every winner, but the point of having Tough Enough is that you should expect results. Sure, having a reality show is one thing, but some people also would like to see results come out of said reality show if the reward of winning said show is "you get a contract and can show what you're capable of in an industry".

Thing is with the premise of the show, taking rookies and training them, it's an unrealistic ambition.

Unless you get someone like an Angle/Brock/Baszler who picks up the business incredibly quickly, you're just going to have someone who has a few weeks of training. At that point, you either put them on TV to capitalise on the momentum they should have which will brutally expose them, or you send them away and train them properly, by which point the whole Tough Enough thing is a mostly forgotten footnote, so why bother with the show in the first place?

I know, but the problem is, WWE keeps setting up these unrealistic expectations whenever they hype a new Tough Enough as if the winner is going to be a WWE Superstar, when the last two winners didn't even make a TV appearance. They want the sizzle AND the steak. Plus, considering how awful the 2015 Tough Enough was, I would be happy if they don't revive the concept. Steve Austin pretty much carried the 2011 Tough Enough because he was both an asshole, but also a thoughtful judge of character; he called it like he saw it, and was not afraid to say it as such. The people who were involved in the 2015 show were just... damn.

[Dub H]

And long we dont get more Sauce Making,Briefs Wearing Yetis.

Also know as at the time: White Roman Reigns

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Miz going off on the Judges and in the end being completely right about Patrick Clark (Velveteen Dream) will always be the best highlight of Tough Enough.

[Zombie Mod]

probably learned their lesson from not renewing the trademark on.. uh wargames I think it was, last year.