Could the Abrams UWF had succeeded?

[wildojinx]

I was just thinking about the Herb Abrams UWF the other day for some reason. They did have a pretty good roster their first year, with Paul Orndorff, Steve Williams, Bam Bam Bigelow, Don Muraco, Cactus Jack, and others, all who had name value and could have attracted curious fans. But as we all know, they went downhill and fast, so how would you have made it so that it became at least a viable competitor to WWF and WCW?

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Read Howard Brody’s book “swimming with piranhas”. Abrams was doomed to fail from the first time he opened a company. He was a money mark that the boys took advantage from.

Brody tells a story of Bam Bam Bigelow and Dr Death Steve Williams basically using Herb to get free drugs.

Herb Abrams just wanted to hang out and be friend with the boys instead of making money.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

not with Herb Abrams in charge.

[jason1980s]

Since most of the names he had were in their prime and years from retirement, he definitely had a big lot of talent. I could see him competing with WWF or even taking over WCW in 1991. But if he was just in the promotion for enjoyment of being around the talent, then he was basically an early 90s version of today's independent promoters.

[Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃]

Mar 13, 2019 9:00:38 GMT -5 wildojinx said:

Could the Abrams UWF had succeeded?

And rob us of the most awesomest way to die in human history?!?

[Crappler El 0 M]

I mean... it didn't.

[Squirrel Master]

I loved this league, great talents but run oh so cheapie-choppy.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Howard Brody also mentioned on his book that Herb’s fortune might not have been that kosher so he would’ve probably had troubles with the law if he didn’t had the best death of all time.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Mar 13, 2019 9:43:31 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

not with Herb Abrams in charge.

My immediate thought. The issue with the UWF was Herb, but without Herb there is no UWF.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Another reason uwf never had a shot in hell? Abrams in a press conference said he was going to sign Bruiser Brody, only problem was that this was 1990 and Brody died in 88.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

No. Herb was a bad promoter and the early 90s was when the wheels came of wrestling due to the drug and sex abuse scandals. You would have to change so much to make it work it would be another promotion and not the UWF.

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Mar 13, 2019 14:47:37 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

I mean... it didn't.

Exactly.

We can start threads asking "Could XWF have succeeded?" And the answer would be ...it didn't.

We can ask "Could Pro Wrestling USA have succeeded?" Well, it... didn't.

And Herb Abrams... didn't.

But he sure succeeded in going out with a bang. Not with the UWF, but in life, with all those hookers, cocaine, baby oil, and smashing furniture.

[Mozenrath]

Depends on what he wanted to do. Sounds like he just wanted to f*** around, do his own thing, and hang out with big-name wrestlers, all of which he accomplished.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Another huge problem, he booked big names in big arenas but nobody went. It was a vanity project without a business plan. It would like if AEW was ran by a crackhead.