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Post by wildojinx on Mar 14, 2019 18:08:59 GMT -5
Anyone remember this? For a time in 2002, Val was billed as The Big Valbowski and not Val Venis. Why did they do this, did they briefly lose the copyright (though I dont know why they would)?
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 14, 2019 18:11:33 GMT -5
I think they were just trying something new with him, the gimmick was getting pretty long in the tooth by '02. Even if it was just a slight name change.
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Post by DoubleDare on Mar 14, 2019 18:11:40 GMT -5
Yea that was weird, kinda like when Billy Gunn was "The One" Billy Gunn.
I feel like by 2001/2 alot of attitude era gimmicks felt stale so they thought to change some of the more risque one's (goodfather).
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Post by Chiral on Mar 14, 2019 18:15:31 GMT -5
I remember it cuz of Shut Your Mouth.
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Post by TGM on Mar 14, 2019 18:17:23 GMT -5
Billy Gunn was Billy G at one point for some reason.
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Post by Perd on Mar 14, 2019 18:18:35 GMT -5
In that movie, you actually do find out what happens when you f*** a stranger in the ass.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 14, 2019 18:18:48 GMT -5
It felt like them trying to slowly transition to just the Big Valbowski, ala Big Show Paul Wight gradually becoming the Big Show, but it just never stuck and within a year we were stuck with Chief Morley on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 18:23:15 GMT -5
Remember when they turned him heel and he cut his hair and started wrestling in white trunks? God that sucked.
Then they tried it about 2 years later and he was “Chief Morley”
Look, I liked Venis but I don’t see why he couldn’t have been a big deal with the pornstar gimmick. It’s always been Vince’s biggest problem... he thinks in order to be a main eventer, you have to be bland and “serious” with no unique personality or traits. Look at Fandango for example... he’s been hyping his return and he’s “serious”... why can he not just be a badass ballet dancer? Why can Tyler Breeze not be an ass kicking super model? It makes no sense and I don’t see this changing until Vince leaves.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 14, 2019 18:35:27 GMT -5
I liked the Chief Morley gimmick for a bit, was watching some of those Raws from 2002 and they would really make things difficult for the faces like RVD or the Dudleys.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 14, 2019 18:39:08 GMT -5
Desperation. The character already ran its course.
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Post by bmfjules on Mar 14, 2019 19:08:37 GMT -5
Look, I'm not the Big Valbowski, you're the Big Valbowski... I'm Chief Morley, so that's what you call me, that or His Chiefness, or Chiefer, or El Chieferino if you're not into that whole brevity thing.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 14, 2019 19:13:16 GMT -5
Big Valbowski: Where the @#$% did they get a toe?!
Big Boss Man: You want a toe? Hell, I can get you a toe by 3pm, with nail polish. @#$%in' amateurs!
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 14, 2019 19:17:45 GMT -5
Desperation. The character already ran its course. Basically Val Venis pornstar went as far as it ever was and it was their attempt at trying to branch him out from there. But once your gimmick is something like "PORNSTAR" that's all the audience is going to see you as. |
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Mar 14, 2019 19:23:33 GMT -5
Billy Gunn was Billy G at one point for some reason. Wasn’t there a period where he was just known as Mr. Ass? |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 14, 2019 19:31:43 GMT -5
Desperation. The character already ran its course. Basically Val Venis pornstar went as far as it ever was and it was their attempt at trying to branch him out from there. But once your gimmick is something like "PORNSTAR" that's all the audience is going to see you as. Edge is very lucky because he almost ended up getting that gimmick. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 14, 2019 20:06:24 GMT -5
Both this and Billy Ginn just being "Mr Ass" for a few months are because the network.
Seriously, whatever network they were on at the time finally realised they had a guy who's name rhymed with Penis, and told them to change it.
Billy Gunn was censored around the time of the Beltway sniper attack IIRC
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 14, 2019 20:11:45 GMT -5
If it was today he'd randomly show up as just "Val" one night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 21:09:59 GMT -5
In that movie, you actually do find out what happens when you f*** a stranger in the ass. Or when you find one in the Alps, to keep it PG. |
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 14, 2019 22:09:01 GMT -5
.... I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 14, 2019 22:14:25 GMT -5
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE GIMMICKS!?
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