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Post by G✇JI☈A on Mar 22, 2019 1:55:20 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty after cowardly jumping out the Barber Shop window.
How he had the gall to return after that.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 22, 2019 6:03:37 GMT -5
Piper pre-WM3 was pure gold. The Piper who returned in '89 was not the same guy. Instead of being the off the cuff nut that I loved, he seemed too self-aware as if his trip to Hollywood convinced him that he was some kind of a great entertainer and so he was either really over the top or he was trying to earn an Oscar nomination. The commentary was just bad, as I noted in another thread Roddy v. Macho on the mic was like he became a cartoon character from the 1990s. The movies and TV shows I've seen with him, not his more famous one, were actually very good. If he had retired completely (outside the one time legend appearances) and focused on TV and movies, I think he would be very popular as an actor and even more well known. It was like he wasn't the same Roddy on TV. He wouldn't be a Rock movie star but definitely close to Austin or Cena in terms of how believable an actor. Certainly better than Hulk Hogan. He did great work in the Dibiase vs Virgil feud, though.
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Post by bogussting on Mar 24, 2019 10:49:42 GMT -5
Ric Flair should have retired after Halloween Havoc '94.
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 24, 2019 16:21:16 GMT -5
Ric Flair should have retired after Halloween Havoc '94. Good one! He probably could have avoided a lot of personal and professional problems if he had fully retired from the ring and moved on to a backstage role. I can see Ric passing away in the ring or on TV during a backstage segment and I can see him wanting it to go that way. Wrestling is his life but if he had retired in 1994 he would probably be seen as an even bigger legend. He could have held the Babe Ruth position that WWF wanted for Hogan or Savage and he could have done a lot of personal autograph appearances. He usually did in the Baltimore area during the mid to late 1990s. He also could have held a good backstage role, not booking and letting politics get the best of him but teaching the newcomers how to do a proper promo. WCW always had a lot of young newcomers, moreso than WWF, but most didn't last long or were relegated to the Disney tapings because they just weren't over enough for Nitro or Saturday Night. I can also see him being a power plant trainer. Did trainees have to pay? They could probably up their fee based on having Ric Flair. Who in their right mind wouldn't have wanted Ric Flair as a trainer than Buddy Lee Parker? Ric has such passion for wrestling and is a father, I can see him taking a lot of the young guys under his wing during training.
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Post by realist on Mar 24, 2019 17:33:19 GMT -5
I felt like Wrestlemania 32 would have been a good time for Vince McMahon to step away and pass the torch to Triple H, Stephanie, and the returning Shane McMahon.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 24, 2019 18:59:22 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty after cowardly jumping out the Barber Shop window. How he had the gall to return after that. Will you stop!
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Mar 25, 2019 1:40:59 GMT -5
Probably Sting at Bound For Glory 2008. He put over AJ and made a quasi-retirement speech after the fact, and I’m struggling to think of anything worthwhile he’s done since. This happened in 2009 but I agree with you 100%. The will he or won't he retire storyline is probably one of the better storylines TNA ever did. I was there for BFG 2009 and there was a ton of emotion after that match and after Sting's post match promo. At the arena they had a bunch of displays of various Sting memorabilia from throught the years and it all seemed like a huge deal and really felt like that might be it for Sting. Would have made a great ending. Or at least far better than being forced out due to a severe injury suffered on a live ppv.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 25, 2019 4:10:41 GMT -5
I think Roddy Piper after WrestleMania III. I get he had to adapt to the times, more cartoon quality in late 80s/early 90s and he was an overall friendly man and enjoyed life but his 1989-1992 run seemed so far away from the original WWF Roddy version. And the multiple times he came back just didn't make any kind of splash and he was the type of guy who should have and could have and a big splash returning if he was original Roddy and the storylines were good enough. I'd say WM 8 after putting Bret over. In 1992, he still seemed like he fit in as a crazy face, he'd done some fun stuff with Rick Rude and Flair in the preceding years and that match was one of his best so he'd have gone out on a super high note. Every time after that he just seemed like an old retired guy. He was fine to bring back as a ref or interim president, He seemed to start aging super fast. 1992 1994 1996 To be fair, Piper's ageing slowed after 1996 and the years were kinder than they've been to Flair, Hogan and others from that era.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 10:07:56 GMT -5
In addition to Piper's rapid physical aging, it's also kind of odd to me how Piper's act transitioned from hilarious and cutting edge in '85 to nostalgic and slightly deranged old man 10 years later.
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