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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Mar 25, 2019 10:45:00 GMT -5
"But, but...What about AJ vs Orton?"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 10:47:05 GMT -5
I’m kind of shocked that the sentiments surrounding this match on here went from “Yes, this should absolutely main event” to “..oh ok.” Yes, the build may seem questionable and weird to some (I’ve personally have had no problems with it.)Yes, Charlotte is in this match. But as one poster pointed out, The build to Rock-Austin at Mania 17 was just as conveluded and weird as this build was, and they managed to save it with two weeks to the show. I have faith in the company that they’ll pull something off to save it. On top of that, it doesn’t matter if Charlotte got in this match because “her dad” or she’s suppsoedly the “chosen one by Vince.” She’s been intertwined in both of these ladies 2018 since August. The Becky/Charlotte feud is at its apex right now. We might not think that, but the crowd still go bananas when they go at it. Hell, for all the talk of Becky being cooled off, I really haven’t heard anything of the sort the last two or so weeks, or even when this angle began. The point is the woman have gone from being the piss break spot for most dudes to being the main event of the biggest show of the year. Rather than it being this weird mess of a battle royal, it involves three ladies that have been making each other’s lives hell since Summerslam and Survivor Series respectively. And you know that they’re closing with Becky overcoming everything to finally cement her as the top woman on Raw and dethroning Charlotte/Ruining Ronda’s title reign. Props to Vince for choosing this match, props to all three ladies and their undeniable talent, and props to the fans for making this happen. Definitely well deserved. Besides this, for as much as people say Charlotte is OP and gets everything handed to her, Charlotte hasn't won a match since November. The last person she beat was a member of the IIconics and her last single's win before that was September against Sonya. She's basically that strong heel who's great but can't get the job done and it's gotten to her hence why she's doing what she can to get into this match.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 25, 2019 10:52:25 GMT -5
Great for them, I will more than likely be sound asleep by that point as I have work early in the morning but I'll watch the rest of the 7-8 Mania the next day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 10:52:35 GMT -5
Wait ...The Rock Vs Austin at X7 was as convoluted? How? that story was as simple to follow as anything.
Austin won the rumble Rock won the WWF title Austin's sense of sanity was uraveling as his desperation became more apparent after his loss to HHH at No Way Out Austin and Rock provoke each other and get into a few physical scuffles along the way
How exactly is that more convoluted? and lets not bring up Debra I said it in another thread...that was literally a thing that lasted a week.
Compare that to
Ronda interferes at TLC costing both Becky and Charlotte the SD womens title Becky wrestles and taps clean to Asuka Becky then takes Lana's spot in the rumble but is "injured in the process" Becky challenges Ronda for Mania Becky is not allowed unless she see's a doctor Becky is then suspened for not seeing the doctor Becky is then reinserted into the match after apologizing Becky is then removed from the match and Charlotte is put in her place Ronda shits all over the entire build through twitter with her..this is all fake etc Becky is then given the chance to win (ignoring the rumble win) her way into the WM match by wrestling Charlotte
I am sure I missed like 54 other points in the convoluted none sense thst is Becky , Ronda and Charlotte.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 10:55:23 GMT -5
The women's division is the hottest that it's ever been, the more popular division overall according to many fans, and the persons involved are as over as anyone in the company right now. I may not be a fan of the feud, but this is unquestionably the year to go with a women's main event.
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Post by KobashiChop on Mar 25, 2019 10:56:27 GMT -5
I'm happy with that.
They can still recover the feud in time. Theres 2 shows left before Mania.
And as bad as Rondas stupid "shoot" was, it's not like she has revealed a giant secret. We didn't all just go "oh shit we had no idea it wasn't real".
The issue is that the WWE think the money feud is "former MMA fighter Ronda Rousey and the WWE establishment vs Rebecca Quin" instead of "Champion Ronda Rousey vs Becky Lynch".
If you seriously think Rumble winner, previous SD champion and shampoo model Becky Lynch is legitimately held back then the WWEs crappy meta kayfabe is working.
They arent trying to pitch "can Becky beat Ronda". They're trying to pitch "Will WWE have Becky go over Ronda".
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Post by thetower52 on Mar 25, 2019 10:57:58 GMT -5
Rock and Austin didn’t go around telling everyone that what they do is a bunch of fake horse shit.
Rock and Austin made you believe what they where doing was real. Becky made me believe Ronda did tell she went off the f***ing rails I. To Russo’s house of swerves bullshit and restraining order
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 25, 2019 11:01:29 GMT -5
How exactly is that more convoluted? and lets not bring up Debra I said it in another thread...that was literally a thing that lasted a week. Sure but that itself lead to more questions. Could Vince always switch who managers were assigned to? Could any authority figure? Could Jack Tunney have crushed the Heenan family in one blow if Heenan didn’t have the right paperwork? Why did Rock blindly accept Debra as his manager when he hadn’t had a manager for years? Why didn’t Austin beat the crap out of Vince for doing that and putting her life in danger especially before a big match at WrestleMania? And the most important question of all: WHY THE F*** WAS IT INVOLVED IN THE BUILD BETWEEN TWO OF YOUR BIGGEST BOX OFFICE DRAWS?! Is Becky/Charlotte/Ronda more complicated? Absolutely but at the time, that could have stopped all momentum of the biggest thing in wrestling if someone didn’t slap Vince upside the head and told him to stop.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 25, 2019 11:04:58 GMT -5
Wait ...The Rock Vs Austin at X7 was as convoluted? How? that story was as simple to follow as anything. Austin won the rumble Rock won the WWF title Austin's sense of sanity was uraveling as his desperation became more apparent after his loss to HHH at No Way Out Austin and Rock provoke each other and get into a few physical scuffles along the way How exactly is that more convoluted? and lets not bring up Debra I said it in another thread...that was literally a thing that lasted a week. Compare that to Ronda interferes at TLC costing both Becky and Charlotte the SD womens title Becky wrestles and taps clean to Asuka Becky then takes Lana's spot in the rumble but is "injured in the process" Becky challenges Ronda for Mania Becky is not allowed unless she see's a doctor Becky is then suspened for not seeing the doctor Becky is then reinserted into the match after apologizing Becky is then removed from the match and Charlotte is put in her place Ronda shits all over the entire build through twitter with her..this is all fake etc Becky is then given the chance to win (ignoring the rumble win) her way into the WM match by wrestling Charlotte I am sure I missed like 54 other points in the convoluted none sense thst is Becky , Ronda and Charlotte. Is it that hard? Really? Becky's pride and desire to be the best makes her want to beat Ronda and Charlotte at every opportunity, even at the cost of her own body. Vince uses this as an excuse to bring in his chosen one Charlotte Flair. Ronda wants to be the best, so she makes it so that she's fighting both of them. Boom, 3 lines. None of the Twitter stuff has been acknowledged even a tiny bit on screen, so all they've seen is Ronda get sick of the fans liking someone else which is fine for a heel turn. Here we're analyzing everything almost hour by hour, and it's not even done yet. Half of the great X7 build wasn't even highlighted until afterwards, the desperation etc. At the time it was Austin being Austin. Stuff like "I have to beat you Rock, more than you could imagine" is great foreshadowing, but on it's own is a line that could be used pretty much any time.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 25, 2019 11:05:47 GMT -5
So long as the match delivers, the convoluted booking will be forgotten or ignored by most fans.
That fact doesn't excuse the convoluted booking, of course, but a great WM main event is like an election day after all the polling in the world: it's the real measure of what truly counts as meaningful.
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Post by markymark on Mar 25, 2019 11:06:51 GMT -5
Good for them, but I still hope Kofi wins the title at Mania, main event has potential in being as great as Bryan vs Orton vs Batista, the crowd will be vital...
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Post by Dub H on Mar 25, 2019 11:08:20 GMT -5
Have women main-eventing for the sake of them being women is so boring, they don't belong to the role of closing the show, there's not enough intensity in ring. I'd rather have Kofi vs Bryan Becky is their hottest star,SHE deserves it.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 25, 2019 11:10:23 GMT -5
Good for Charlotte and Becky. They absolutely deserve it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 25, 2019 11:14:29 GMT -5
So long as the match delivers, the convoluted booking will be forgotten or ignored by most fans. That fact doesn't excuse the convoluted booking, of course, but a great WM main event is like an election day after all the polling in the world: it's the real measure of what truly counts as meaningful. I will say, not that it relates to this case, this can also happen the other way around. Remember how goddamn awesome the build to HHH/Orton at WrestleMania 25 was and how it should have lead to both men wanting to kill each other? Of course you don't because that entire build left to a dud of a main event which HHH won clean only to lose it in a pointless six man tag the next month. Your rival knocks out your wife, you invade his home in retaliation and...you start with a collar and elbow tie up? Come on, man!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:14:46 GMT -5
Good for them, but I still hope Kofi wins the title at Mania, main event has potential in being as great as Bryan vs Orton vs Batista, the crowd will be vital... I'll say on and say that if Kofi loses at WM that would damage the crowd through the rest of the event. That's not a good look.
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Post by markymark on Mar 25, 2019 11:15:31 GMT -5
Lesnar retaining would also damage the crowd.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Mar 25, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
Have women main-eventing for the sake of them being women is so boring, they don't belong to the role of closing the show, there's not enough intensity in ring. I'd rather have Kofi vs Bryan Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:17:43 GMT -5
Lesnar keeping the belt would hurt the crowd too but Kofi losing would do even more damage. Given the type of storyline it is, there just can't be another loss. I mean we saw what happened at Elimination Chamber and Fastlane, it happening at Wrestlemania would be disastrous.
Kofi's gonna get that title. There's a method to their madness.
And shoutout to Charlotte for continuing to push all the other women rather than just herself.
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Post by Sparkybob on Mar 25, 2019 11:23:55 GMT -5
Becky is who they want to build their company around so it makes sense she is in the main event and if she wins she is in the closing shot.
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Post by markymark on Mar 25, 2019 11:24:01 GMT -5
Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt
Yeah, for some reason now it feels as forced as Captain Marvel.
Match should be great though.
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