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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 25, 2019 11:26:59 GMT -5
Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt It is around here, where we're analyzing everything to death. Watching RAW, crowd still loves Becky, are loud and invested during the segments. As I say, it's a coin flip, and Bryan v Kofi hasn't even been officially announced yet. At worst, it's the number 2 most anticipated match on the card. They deserve it.
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Post by Derk! on Mar 25, 2019 11:34:06 GMT -5
While the story has hit several speedbumps along the way, it's very fitting to have it close wrestlemania. Props to Charlotte and Becky (and Ronda to a smaller extent)for busting their asses to get here.
Kudos to Nia Jax and her botch for helping to get the ball rolling faster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:45:10 GMT -5
Putting aside my thoughts on what they've done to the build for this since the night after the Rumble, I'm thrilled for both Charlotte and (especially) Becky. You know those two are going to be very emotional before and after the show.
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Mar 25, 2019 11:48:42 GMT -5
Awesome. Build has been terrible lately, but Becky's popularity, Charlotte's legacy and Ronda's mainstream are enough for me to justify THIS being the first women's match to main event WM.
Though part of me kinda wishes it wasn't actually announced
'2 more matches left...the f***? New Day's theme? That means...whoa'
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Post by abjordans on Mar 25, 2019 11:52:39 GMT -5
None of the Twitter stuff is even canon, so has the build to this really been that convoluted and tough to follow? This is what everyone wanted and somehow this thread is still a downer by and large.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:53:23 GMT -5
Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt That's WrestleMania, the event where they put all their eggs in the basket of getting attention any way they can, from crappy celebrities and music intermissions to washed up sports legends and "first time in history" moments. From the first Mania where there were more celebrities involved in the main event than actual wrestlers, WrestleMania is the company's annual PR stunt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:53:37 GMT -5
I can't even say this is forced, even with how crappy the feud's been lately. Becky's their most popular star, Charlotte their best women's wrestler and as goofy as Ronda is, she's still Ronda.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 25, 2019 11:53:41 GMT -5
Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt Ronda/Charlotte was eyed as a possible main event like ten months ago, this is not a sudden PR stunt.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 25, 2019 11:54:48 GMT -5
Giving the side eye to a lot of the comments in this thread.
Happy the E made the right decision. The build may not be great, but the only WM builds the E can do right are Undertaker oriented or they get there despite themselves.
So that's on brand.
This match has been built since last year. Compare that to the other choices, and there is no question what slot this match should be.
And I need "forced" and "inclusion" to never be in the same sentence again.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Mar 25, 2019 12:03:50 GMT -5
Giving the side eye to a lot of the comments in this thread. Happy the E made the right decision. The build may not be great, but the only WM builds the E can do right are Undertaker oriented or they get their despite themselves. So that's on brand. This match has been built since last year. Compare that to the other choices, and there is no question what slot this match should be. And I need "forced" and "inclusion" to never be in the same sentence again. And even that's not a sure bet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:04:12 GMT -5
Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt It is around here, where we're analyzing everything to death. Watching RAW, crowd still loves Becky, are loud and invested during the segments. As I say, it's a coin flip, and Bryan v Kofi hasn't even been officially announced yet. At worst, it's the number 2 most anticipated match on the card. They deserve it. Yep. Mostly everyone online thinks the match is overbooked and are echoing the sentiment that Charlotte shouldn’t be main eventing and all this. But when you hear the crowds? They’re certainly not cooling down for becky or the Becky/Charlotte segments. The crowds are hitting all the right notes and are more or less loving the story of Becky being held down and finally getting her chance to win the belt at Mania. If I was going by solely the Internet, I would think that Becky’s crowd reactions are dying off, Charlotte has been getting wins, and Ronda has been mentioning kayfabe on tv every week since turning.
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Post by edgestar on Mar 25, 2019 12:14:57 GMT -5
The only other European to main event WrestleMania was Andre the Giant, so this is HUGE historically for Becky. You're telling me Roddy Piper wasn't ACTUALLY Scottish? ....we're gonna need you to have a seat, before we break the news....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:15:05 GMT -5
None of the Twitter stuff is even canon, so has the build to this really been that convoluted and tough to follow? This is what everyone wanted and somehow this thread is still a downer by and large. To me it isn’t. You’ve got one woman who got screwed by Vince before eventually getting the opportunity she earned. You’ve got the other woman who’s wanted to beat Becky lynch and ruin her WWE career so badly that she’ll align with Vince to get her way and her destiny. And then you’ve got the last woman who was doing what any babyface would do. She gave Stephanie the title and offered a final ultimatum as she wanted to beat Becky’s ass, not Charlotte’s. She did that and still got booed! So, when the ultimatum was announced, she got her title, snapped, and beat anyone in her way. That someone just so happened to be Becky. Now her ego is at its apex and her first year in WWE will end like her last year in UFC. Ego deflated by being beat at the biggest show of the year by Becky Lynch. She’ll go into hiding and likely go after Becky again after a bit of time off. I personally don’t mind the feud one bit, honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:16:46 GMT -5
Until the last couple of weeks, this was by far the hottest feud in the company. While it's lost some steam, and Kofi is on a hot streak, this match does deserve it, it's pretty much a coin flip between the 2. This isn't just because it's women. Just be thankful it didn't end up being Brock v Rollins. Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt That’s the way I look at it as well. This looked like a justified “WM main event” angle when it was just Becky/Ronda and they were talking trash at each other, but then the cartoonish fake limping/injury, adding Charlotte, and going Full Russo destroyed it. This is a PR move to make the company look good, whereas two months ago it looked like it could have been a justified main event that also happened to be a PR move. I mean WM sells itself now so going on last during a 7 hour show with an exhausted crowd almost seems like a punishment rather than a reward but whatever. The funny thing is, Vince has treated black talent just as badly over the years so Kofi main eventing and winning would have had similar significance. It’s also been much better booked.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 25, 2019 12:20:19 GMT -5
Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt Ronda/Charlotte was eyed as a possible main event like ten months ago, this is not a sudden PR stunt. Yup, that was the buzz coming out of Wrestlemania 34. It’s really interesting to me how while all three women deserve it, Becky was the one added late but WWE decided to use projection to their advantage by making the story one where Charlotte (to match Becky’s social media) ‘shoehorned’ her way in in the most deus ex machina way possible. Judging from online responses, a lot of people got worked.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:20:55 GMT -5
Ronda/Becky was the hottest feud in the company, and then they gave Becky a crutch and added Charlotte for some reason. The match has lost momentum and now is in the main event as a PR stunt That’s the way I look at it as well. This looked like a justified “WM main event” angle when it was just Becky/Ronda and they were talking trash at each other, but then the cartoonish fake limping/injury, adding Charlotte, and going Full Russo destroyed it. This is a PR move to make the company look good, whereas two months ago it looked like it could have been a justified main event that also happened to be a PR move. I mean WM sells itself now so going on last during a 7 hour show with an exhausted crowd almost seems like a punishment rather than a reward but whatever. The funny thing is, Vince has treated black talent just as badly over the years so Kofi main eventing and winning would have had similar significance. It’s also been much better booked. So, rather than it being about three talented woman who finally worked hard enough in ring and made a story work, it’s automatically a PR stunt solely because of Chrlotte being involved?
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Post by markymark on Mar 25, 2019 12:21:12 GMT -5
The issue is that if they dont have Seth and/or Kofi win at WM, they are going to hurt the crowd and the women might be the scapegoats for this.(Besides Prichard not being a big fan of Women Wrestling)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:21:40 GMT -5
I'm still not buying the stuff about the crowd being dead for this, even after sitting there for several hours. Becky gets huge reactions and Ronda will probably get booed and have some chants thrown her away, especially if she's leaving.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 12:26:58 GMT -5
That’s the way I look at it as well. This looked like a justified “WM main event” angle when it was just Becky/Ronda and they were talking trash at each other, but then the cartoonish fake limping/injury, adding Charlotte, and going Full Russo destroyed it. This is a PR move to make the company look good, whereas two months ago it looked like it could have been a justified main event that also happened to be a PR move. I mean WM sells itself now so going on last during a 7 hour show with an exhausted crowd almost seems like a punishment rather than a reward but whatever. The funny thing is, Vince has treated black talent just as badly over the years so Kofi main eventing and winning would have had similar significance. It’s also been much better booked. So, rather than it being about three talented woman who finally worked hard enough in ring and made a story work, it’s automatically a PR stunt solely because of Chrlotte being involved? It was a PR stunt regardless. They were planning Ronda/Charlotte probably shortly after WM last year. They knew where this was going. It has always been a PR stunt. Just that a couple of months ago it just happened to feel like a legit main event match. Now it’s watered down and lost a lot of its heat for reasons already mentioned. Kofi’s angle has more steam than this one.
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Post by markymark on Mar 25, 2019 12:27:33 GMT -5
If the booking is right, this WM can easily surpass WM17.
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