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Post by karl100589 on Mar 25, 2019 13:34:06 GMT -5
On Jan 1 this was a slam dunk easy main event. They totally botched this. It's starting to feel forced again. This is going to end up being the #1 example of "Less is More" when people look back with historical context and wonder what went wrong. They never had to book all that random bullshit if they didn't insist on having every facet of the story line have multiple PPV's and a dozen 20+ minute TV segments.
History will forget the build as long as the payoff delivers. Nobody mentions the Debra management storyline when they talk about Rock vs Austin II, or Hogan's vehicular homicide a year later.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 25, 2019 13:35:11 GMT -5
I wonder if they're going to end WM with all 4 Horsewomen standing in the ring. Becky holding her title, Sasha and Bayley holding theirs and then then they show upset Charlotte not wanting to join them before she says "f*** it" and joins and they all celebrate ending WM. With the way Charlotte has crafted this new heel character, I really want to see her on the outside, glaring murderously at the other three as they celebrate. She lost. How could she lose? This was all supposed to be hers. And that drives her even further around the bend and into a feud with Asuka, on Smackdown. I know the WWE probably won't do it, because they want the Four Horsewomen to be an iconic group, and they want the fans to appreciate that. But dramatically, it would serve Charlotte much better. I would love to see the mad queen go off and be top heel for a while on some other show, get out of being Becky's punching bag for a while and go top heel for a few months on Smackdown. Not like a year long endless reign again, but if the had her go full bore for a few months and use it for a big babyface ascent come Summerslam I think that'd be a great way to re-establish her and give the character some time to shine.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 25, 2019 13:35:37 GMT -5
Ronda week 1: WRESTLING IS STUPID AND f***ING FAKE Ronda week 2: Put my husband on TV being a badass. Ronda week 3: Let's do an April Fool's Day joke with the main event build on the f***ing go-home show. I have to wonder if this is why they’ve split Lynch and Charlotte away from Rousey the last couple of weeks, so they minimise the collateral damage somewhat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:38:21 GMT -5
They're wrestling Trish and Lita? I wonder if they're going to end WM with all 4 Horsewomen standing in the ring. Becky holding her title, Sasha and Bayley holding theirs and then then they show upset Charlotte not wanting to join them before she says "f*** it" and joins and they all celebrate ending WM. They already took a 1 on 1 main event against Ronda away from Becky...them shoehorning the rest of the Horsewomen let alone all of the womens roster at the end seems inevitable and it will be f***ing groan worthy. But if Becky wins...it should be her and her alone at the end with the title let her have her celebration.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 25, 2019 13:38:36 GMT -5
With the way Charlotte has crafted this new heel character, I really want to see her on the outside, glaring murderously at the other three as they celebrate. She lost. How could she lose? This was all supposed to be hers. And that drives her even further around the bend and into a feud with Asuka, on Smackdown. I know the WWE probably won't do it, because they want the Four Horsewomen to be an iconic group, and they want the fans to appreciate that. But dramatically, it would serve Charlotte much better. I would love to see the mad queen go off and be top heel for a while on some other show, get out of being Becky's punching bag for a while and go top heel for a few months on Smackdown. Not like a year long endless reign again, but if the had her go full bore for a few months and use it for a big babyface ascent come Summerslam I think that'd be a great way to re-establish her and give the character some time to shine. I will always go back to Charlotte in the rumble,that is by far the best she ever was character and ring wise. Charlotte shines when she is imposing against the others,as someone that is bigger ,stronger and also more skilled in the ring than you(which is another reason she doesnt need her flip,she didnt even use it in the rumble I think). When she is viscious and mad is when she shines the most in those areas too.I can't enjoy WOOO cocky charlotte,it is just a bad character, but I would go all in Mad Queen Charlotte
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 25, 2019 13:38:55 GMT -5
Ronda week 1: WRESTLING IS STUPID AND f***ING FAKE Ronda week 2: Put my husband on TV being a badass. Ronda week 3: Let's do an April Fool's Day joke with the main event build on the f***ing go-home show. I have to wonder if this is why they’ve split Lynch and Charlotte away from Rousey the last couple of weeks, so they minimise the collateral damage somewhat. Ronda's a nuclear meltdown waiting to happen and I can't help but wonder if there's an intention on keeping her focused on just doing squashes rather than talking because so far everything she's said in service of this match has been just the balls worst. Ronda's a massive liability to this match in ways I don't think anyone could have seen coming at the time, but now all they can do is try to minimize how much what she's doing can hurt everyone else.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Mar 25, 2019 13:39:02 GMT -5
None of the Twitter stuff is even canon, so has the build to this really been that convoluted and tough to follow? This is what everyone wanted and somehow this thread is still a downer by and large. It’s easy Ronda —> Bad WWE —> Bad So therefore, This match as main event —> Bad Good for them. All of them, even Rhonda with her silly nonsense lately. This absolutely deserves to be the main event, and it’s going to be a banger despite the live thread largely taking a shit on it because Rousey’s a subpar human who disrespects DIS BUSINESSS.
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 25, 2019 13:39:37 GMT -5
Sweet. If it was ever gonna happen, it's now, and if they didn't do it, I was worried it'd be an opportunity that might not come along for a real long time again.
As much as I'm enjoying the Kofi push, this is the right call.
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Post by KobashiChop on Mar 25, 2019 13:41:28 GMT -5
Also,
I'm very happy that a Rumble winner closes the show. It's how it should be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:42:04 GMT -5
With the way Charlotte has crafted this new heel character, I really want to see her on the outside, glaring murderously at the other three as they celebrate. She lost. How could she lose? This was all supposed to be hers. And that drives her even further around the bend and into a feud with Asuka, on Smackdown. I know the WWE probably won't do it, because they want the Four Horsewomen to be an iconic group, and they want the fans to appreciate that. But dramatically, it would serve Charlotte much better. I would love to see the mad queen go off and be top heel for a while on some other show, get out of being Becky's punching bag for a while and go top heel for a few months on Smackdown. Not like a year long endless reign again, but if the had her go full bore for a few months and use it for a big babyface ascent come Summerslam I think that'd be a great way to re-establish her and give the character some time to shine. In full agreement that Becky and Charlotte should be separated after WM either way. I love their feud and chemistry in general, but I don't want to see it get to Sami vs. KO levels of annoying. Charlotte should go back to SDL and go on a tear.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 25, 2019 13:45:39 GMT -5
Crowd gonna be dead after sucha long show
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:47:11 GMT -5
Rock/Cena was one of the biggest stars ever versus their new top star. That wasn’t a PR move, that was done to sell tickets/buys. Oh come on, you don't think it was also a PR move to not only get older fans back but also get fans of The Rock's movies to watch him wrestle since many of them probably never did? It can be both and it literally was. Also, it was being held in Miami. If having the match in The Rock's hometown and getting local press all over it isn't a PR move, I don't know what is. Hell, to your second point, I'd argue that the scene now isn't that different from back then. The only difference was that more people were able to tolerate it back then than now. I think you are misunderstanding what PR is. A quick definition is "the professional maintenance of a favorable public image by a company or other organization or a famous person." The WWE putting Rock/Cena in the main event for Mania was not done for a favorable public image, it was done to draw money for their core business. If anything, The Rock coming back to the WWE to wrestle in Miami was better PR for Dwayne Johnson than it was for the WWE. The business standpoint is where the WWE benefited. The WWE benefits from a PR standpoint when they promote women main eventing their top show. That's why they ran through all the "first time ever" stuff over the past year. It's not because the fans or business were demanding it. If they were, then it would have been done more organically, and not in the quick spamming "LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE" way it was. Rock/Cena was considered a "dream match". I don't see how you could possibly spin that as a PR stunt. The irony here is that the WWE did have a main event that organically could have headlined WM (Becky/Ronda). That was white hot the night after the RR. If they ran with that and kept the momentum, it could have been seen as a no brainer way to end the show. Now a wet blanket was thrown on top of it.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Mar 25, 2019 13:52:56 GMT -5
Good. Even regardless of Ronda's Wild Ride, the women have carried the show for the last year and they, Becky in particular, absolutely deserve the top spot more than anyone.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 25, 2019 13:56:08 GMT -5
I don’t want to hate on it for the historical perspective of it all, and this would have been a slam dunk decision in January, BUT they overbooked this shit to the point of indifference. Plus we’ve all seen all 3 ladies win the big one before. The Kofi story is the hottest thing in the main roster in a long time and him finally winning the big one for the first time is the perfect ending to a mania that will wake up a sure to be burned out live crowd
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Post by cmhunk on Mar 25, 2019 13:57:20 GMT -5
I've thought this for a while but I just don't think a lot of the ticket buying consumers buy women at this sort of level. I dunno about the crowd being hot for the match or not, but I would bet given the length of the show a lot of people exit during the main event. Pretty much happened on the house shows when they tried this with Becky/Charlotte and I think Ronda/Nia over Christmas. Even if you were correct, which I don’t think you are. The house show crowds for those are going to be a completely different audience to the people showing up for Wrestlemania. Besides, there is no way on earth you can tell me that they are going to exit for this match when no one did it for the last 3 Roman main events, all of which were built up worse than this has been.
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Post by samantha on Mar 25, 2019 13:58:22 GMT -5
As a woman, I **could** have been really impressed by this, but I'm not a fan
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 25, 2019 13:59:24 GMT -5
This was the year for it to happen. Shame the build has sucked but the match should be really good regardless. Well, as long as they avoid the Sexy Star spot.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 25, 2019 13:59:52 GMT -5
Last time the women were so prominent was Wrestlemania I (which is why I’m so adamant Leilani Kai go in the HOF). There was even a period where Wendi Richter was a bigger draw than Hogan. It can definitely work, it seems to be getting more heat than any of the men’s feuds right now.
Poor Asuka on the other hand...
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 25, 2019 14:03:05 GMT -5
I'm glad the girls get to close the show. It's a good message to send, it provides something to use for future stories, and it's a worthy match to do it with. I hope the match itself makes people forget how much WWE/Rousey botched the build to it. That said, I'm really worried people are just gonna start leaving during this match. As popular as Becky is, it's a long ass show, people are gonna be tired, and not everyone is really invested in women's wrestling the same way as the guys. I guess we'll see what happens. Ultimately, I'm glad they're still doing it just for the significance of it. I hope it all works out.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 25, 2019 14:03:13 GMT -5
Eh, it's good to see them pulling the trigger on a women's main event at WrestleMania. The build has been atrocious and it should just be Becky vs. Ronda, but still cool to see.
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