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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Mar 25, 2019 15:34:36 GMT -5
I wonder if they're going to end WM with all 4 Horsewomen standing in the ring. Becky holding her title, Sasha and Bayley holding theirs and then then they show upset Charlotte not wanting to join them before she says "f*** it" and joins and they all celebrate ending WM. With the way Charlotte has crafted this new heel character, I really want to see her on the outside, glaring murderously at the other three as they celebrate. She lost. How could she lose? This was all supposed to be hers. And that drives her even further around the bend and into a feud with Asuka, on Smackdown. I know the WWE probably won't do it, because they want the Four Horsewomen to be an iconic group, and they want the fans to appreciate that. But dramatically, it would serve Charlotte much better. Even better, have Asuka join them instead of Charlotte to salt the wound even further.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:40:08 GMT -5
Mixed. It certainly should if only because there won't be a more organic opportunity for the women to do it, but damn if I at all care about this match at this point.
But hey, at least it's not Lesnar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:48:35 GMT -5
Looks like Becky, Charlotte and Ronda will be on SportsCenter tomorrow morning. Time for the press runs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -5
I kind of love that Charlotte is going to have more Mania main events under her belt than Ric does. #ThankGodBrookeHoganDoesntWrestle
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 17:05:17 GMT -5
Looks like Becky, Charlotte and Ronda will be on SportsCenter tomorrow morning. Time for the press runs. At the same time? What if they're in studio and they all start fighting? I'd take back just about everything I've said about the build up over the last couple months.
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Post by brentreznor on Mar 25, 2019 17:05:40 GMT -5
It's still the most interesting match with the most star power, in spite of all the storyline goofiness.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 25, 2019 17:13:02 GMT -5
Shame how much this is fallen, you'd expect Steph to take the opportunity to do an in-ring announcement but I suppose that moments passed.
Despite everything it's still the natural main-event and I'm glad for them. I would say the division as a whole but it seems like they're being set-up to... Not fail as such... but not quite set the bar where it could have been.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 25, 2019 17:13:15 GMT -5
Man, so happy for her and Charlotte like I said. With Charlotte I thought there was a good chance she'd main event WM someday, and yes, I do think she would've been worthy. I couldn't really picture it for Becky even though I've been a big fan for a few years now, but she really went and did the damn thing. This right here is why I can’t complain about it at all. The WWE didn’t plan on having Becky in the main event originally, but changed their plans because of how popular she is and now, she gets to be part of the first female main event. Yeah pretty much everyone saw the women's main event coming when Ronda joined and 12 months ago every expected it to be just Charlotte. Especially after she beat Asuka. I think it might have been a somewhat token gesture just Ronda vs Charlotte but since Becky got hot they definitely deserve it now.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 25, 2019 17:51:26 GMT -5
I'm happy with that. They can still recover the feud in time. Theres 2 shows left before Mania. And as bad as Rondas stupid "shoot" was, it's not like she has revealed a giant secret. We didn't all just go "oh shit we had no idea it wasn't real". The issue is that the WWE think the money feud is "former MMA fighter Ronda Rousey and the WWE establishment vs Rebecca Quin" instead of "Champion Ronda Rousey vs Becky Lynch". If you seriously think Rumble winner, previous SD champion and shampoo model Becky Lynch is legitimately held back then the WWEs crappy meta kayfabe is working. They arent trying to pitch "can Becky beat Ronda". They're trying to pitch "Will WWE have Becky go over Ronda". I think that last line is a massive problem WWE has had for nearly two decades now: way, way too much drama derives not from "Who'll win? How will it happen? What will be the fallout for their characters?", but instead from a 100% meta "Will the office FINALLY recognize this guy/gal's abilities, and/or have the annoying long-term 'chosen one' champion lose?" perspective. It's why I can't really get behind Cena as an all-time great performer; I'm not calling him a bad performer, for the record, but way too many of his most dramatic matches only worked because of the real life "Cena wins LOL" feelings, same as when Triple H was in his reign of terror phrase. I know people can point to examples in the past of storylines being "salvaged" before a big event like WM, but I think we need to keep in mind that awful builds are a big reason why the overall viewership of WWE has been on a downward slope for over 15 years. It's nice that fans don't remember Hogan/Rock for the dumb vehicular homicide angle, or that the video package team can make the worst build look great, but while that's all happening the weekly shows aren't doing much to build excitement for these matches, and particularly in recent years the consequence has been a dramatic decrease in the number of people watching. Build matters, character development matters, and while a good match in isolation can still work its potential greater impact ends up severely undercut because of overbooking and other ridiculous during the lead up. That said, good on the women for getting this spot, just watching big cards casually the women's division has pretty much been the better part of the main roster for a good while now, overbooking and all. ...One other thought; I saw somebody mention earlier in the thread that this WM could top WM 17, and when I look at the card in a vacuum it definitely is one of the stronger slates of matches I've seen. I mean, seriously, if you had told me circa 2005 the world would get to see Rey Mysterio vs. Samoa Joe my mind would've been blown. But, yeah, it really illustrates WWE's larger structural issues when a card with some of these matches just doesn't get a ton of people as hyped as they usually get for WM; the preponderance of rematches and the lack of interesting build for a lot of the matches really takes away from what's one of the promotions best "on paper" cards in a good, long time.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 25, 2019 17:56:48 GMT -5
She doesn’t even have an opponent right now, let alone any build to her match. I could see her losing the title, switching to Raw and turning heel on Becky. I think they might as well just unify the women's titles at SummerSlam or something. Whether it's Becky vs. Asuka II, Becky vs. Charlotte or someone like Shayna being involved. I like the idea of having all of the women on one show and the men's tag teams on the other. I don’t think that approach works in 2019. Women are too central a part of WWE programming and their segments/matches rate too well to only have women on one of the two shows. Indeed, a big sign this was main eventing is that since the Rumble it’s been the only match built across both shows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 19:55:14 GMT -5
I'm cool with this.
I actually feel pretty honored that I'll get to say I was in attendance for both the first all-women's PPV and the first WrestleMania to have the main event as a women's match. Really cool!
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Mar 25, 2019 20:04:52 GMT -5
Glad they made it official, and Becky and Charlotte both more than earned it in my opinion.
Can't wait to see the WWE 24 episode behind the scenes of this WM later on down the line, should be pretty emotional and satisfying to see.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 25, 2019 20:33:17 GMT -5
Will the women get the 7 figure paydays that come for the Mania main event? I wonder what payouts are like on a 17 match card?
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Post by masterthought on Mar 25, 2019 22:34:06 GMT -5
Have women main-eventing for the sake of them being women is so boring, they don't belong to the role of closing the show, there's not enough intensity in ring. I'd rather have Kofi vs Bryan Have you watched Ronda, Becky and Charlotte wrestle? They all wrestle with intensity. They have been killing themselves for a year to get to this spot. GTFO wit that shit. Becky vs Charlotte literally had 2 MOTY candidates last year and Ronda vs Charlotte was intense.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 25, 2019 22:39:04 GMT -5
Have women main-eventing for the sake of them being women is so boring, they don't belong to the role of closing the show, there's not enough intensity in ring. I'd rather have Kofi vs Bryan Have you watched Ronda, Becky and Charlotte wrestle? They all wrestle with intensity. They have been killing themselves for a year to get to this spot. GTFO wit that shit. Becky vs Charlotte literally had 2 MOTY candidates last year and Ronda vs Charlotte was intense. I know right,Intensity is one of the things you cant say they dont have.Charlotte with a weapon or full mad is brutal and Ronda knows only one style: Brutal. And Becky polished the hell out of her strikes too to come off more intense.Watching the Lawler tapes paid off
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Post by Doctor No on Mar 26, 2019 0:28:56 GMT -5
I hope WWE gets every “Attaboy!” that they want with this “announcement”. Congrats WWE! So brave!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 0:45:58 GMT -5
Have you watched Ronda, Becky and Charlotte wrestle? They all wrestle with intensity. They have been killing themselves for a year to get to this spot. GTFO wit that shit. Becky vs Charlotte literally had 2 MOTY candidates last year and Ronda vs Charlotte was intense. I know right,Intensity is one of the things you cant say they dont have.Charlotte with a weapon or full mad is brutal and Ronda knows only one style: Brutal. And Becky polished the hell out of her strikes too to come off more intense.Watching the Lawler tapes paid off Even going outside WWE I think a lot of wrestlers really drop the ball when it comes down to wrestling opponents they're feuding with like they actually hate each other. Between Charlotte vs. Ronda, and Charlotte vs. Becky so far, they really got it down.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 26, 2019 3:14:28 GMT -5
I know right,Intensity is one of the things you cant say they dont have.Charlotte with a weapon or full mad is brutal and Ronda knows only one style: Brutal. And Becky polished the hell out of her strikes too to come off more intense.Watching the Lawler tapes paid off Even going outside WWE I think a lot of wrestlers really drop the ball when it comes down to wrestling opponents they're feuding with like they actually hate each other. Between Charlotte vs. Ronda, and Charlotte vs. Becky so far, they really got it down. This was a key reason why Seth/Dean flopped at TLC. A build that felt like it begged for an intense match, then no.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 3:30:59 GMT -5
As cheesy as it is, it feels so good to be able to tell my little nieces that maybe they could main event WrestleMania someday. It’s a tangible goal now.
That’s really f***ing cool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 10:27:54 GMT -5
Here's the SportsCenter interview.
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