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Post by Cela on Mar 26, 2019 17:57:03 GMT -5
Wine drunk Braun needs to be a thing at some point. "GET THESE HANDS on on a lovely pinot." |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 26, 2019 19:06:13 GMT -5
Charlotte Flair winning at Summerslam. Hated at the time by many, but in hindsight it worked brilliantly for Becky having her win the title from Charlotte rather than Carmella. Disagree. Charlotte was supposed to be the face out of that, but got "get the f*** out of the main event scene forever" heat. They tried for weeks to make fans turn on Becky before they begrudgingly made her an anti hero. We only got where we are now because WWE completely failed to read the room on how beloved and overlooked Becky was, and how people were totally done with 3 years of Charlotte's constant nepotism push. The fact they did the exact same thing by shoehorning Charlotte into the previously red hot can't miss main event of Mania proves to me they still don't get it. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 27, 2019 1:00:42 GMT -5
Bryan himself said his original WM30 plan was to face Sheamus so the fact they lucked into what they did was great. That whole period from 2013/2014 was probably the most tumultuous time I've been on this forum due to everything surrounding it. I remember how heartbroken people were that he lost the title to Orton that night but you know what was even worse than that? When Bryan got HBK in the Yes Lock because that was looked at as the feud ender. Bryan was going through hell those months and it just continued to change the deeper we made it to Wrestlemania. You had the Punk stuff, the Authority stuff, Triple H, Orton, there was so much from it. Wyatt too, that Wyatt stuff was big. The funniest thing about the whole thing is that the company tried to spin it in a way that they wanted the fans to get behind Bryan in the beginning so they could rise up to that WM30 moment. These dudes are wild lol. Watching those shows, Bryan was such a non factor at times and was getting so over with the crowd despite that, it was hilarious. The crowd hijacking the end of PPVs were Bryan wasn’t even there, him getting the most reactions in a Orton/Cena confrontation, the hijacking twice of Orton/Cena, The Rumble moment with poor Rey, all of that lead to them at least bringing Bryan into storylines from January and THEN they tried HHH/Bryan when it was obvious that it would have lead to the biggest hijacking in WWE history with Orton/Batista. Part of it was panic stations with Punk and part of it was trying to compromise before being forced to bow in. Again, fascinating TV where you were wondering when the shoe was going to drop. I know I can't really be surprised with bad ideas out of WWE at this point, so I'll say if there was anyone competent working there I would be baffled that they thought Batista vs Orton sounded like something people wanted as Mania main event |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 3:56:45 GMT -5
Not pushing Sandow any further. They knew best.
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Post by 4real on Mar 27, 2019 9:24:47 GMT -5
Maybe it's not necessarily what we wanted, but in retrospect, WWE was right not to push Daniel Bryan back to the WWE title picture in 2015. Because had they done so, it would have ended the same way Bryan's IC title reign did. It doesn't excuse the fact they went with Reigns in that fashion when there were still a few non-Bryan, non-Reigns options on the table. I wonder if they were just right about Bryan from 2013. He got a concussion against Orton before he had won the belt at Summerslam. Maybe they were worried he just wasnt reliable from an injury standpoint? The 2nd time though yes they were definitely right but went about it completely wrong. Bryan shouldn’t have been in the Rumble and somebody else should have won, either Ambrose or Ziggler probably. |
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Post by chronocross on Mar 27, 2019 9:52:50 GMT -5
The go home to the TLC Unification match with Cena and Orton, with every former champion WWE could possibly get on the show in the ring with them. Guys like Bret, Shawn, Edge, Foley, Hunter, and of course, Orton and Cena. And the Seattle crowd won't stop chanting for Daniel Bryan despite not doing anything of importance at the time. The dude was about to job to the Wyatts in a one on three Handicap match, FFS. And that was DECEMBER! Bryan lost the title in AUGUST! They didn't drop the shoe on the title match until MARCH! A book needs to be written about that time because, honestly, there's never been like it any other time in WWE history, even during the Attitude Era. And somewhere in the middle Big Show was trying to leech off the "Yes!" chants around Survivor Series in a feud with Orton, it's incredible. |
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 10:36:55 GMT -5
Maybe it's not necessarily what we wanted, but in retrospect, WWE was right not to push Daniel Bryan back to the WWE title picture in 2015. Because had they done so, it would have ended the same way Bryan's IC title reign did. It doesn't excuse the fact they went with Reigns in that fashion when there were still a few non-Bryan, non-Reigns options on the table. I wonder if they were just right about Bryan from 2013. He got a concussion against Orton before he had won the belt at Summerslam. Maybe they were worried he just wasnt reliable from an injury standpoint? The 2nd time though yes they were definitely right but went about it completely wrong. Bryan shouldn’t have been in the Rumble and somebody else should have won, either Ambrose or Ziggler probably. I think they were wrong anyway because the idea of "you NEED to absultely build a top star" is silly and poisonous.Just tell the best story for the fans.After that everything starts coming together |
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 10:38:37 GMT -5
Charlotte Flair winning at Summerslam. Hated at the time by many, but in hindsight it worked brilliantly for Becky having her win the title from Charlotte rather than Carmella. Disagree. Charlotte was supposed to be the face out of that, but got "get the f*** out of the main event scene forever" heat. They tried for weeks to make fans turn on Becky before they begrudgingly made her an anti hero. We only got where we are now because WWE completely failed to read the room on how beloved and overlooked Becky was, and how people were totally done with 3 years of Charlotte's constant nepotism push. The fact they did the exact same thing by shoehorning Charlotte into the previously red hot can't miss main event of Mania proves to me they still don't get it. Yup they still dont,Charlotte aint even moving numbers on views ,reactions for the feud didnt go up, she aint selling that merch. They just want Charlotte for any reason they can use. And it snot like adding her stopped anything from the Ronda debacle. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 27, 2019 16:54:12 GMT -5
Watching those shows, Bryan was such a non factor at times and was getting so over with the crowd despite that, it was hilarious. The crowd hijacking the end of PPVs were Bryan wasn’t even there, him getting the most reactions in a Orton/Cena confrontation, the hijacking twice of Orton/Cena, The Rumble moment with poor Rey, all of that lead to them at least bringing Bryan into storylines from January and THEN they tried HHH/Bryan when it was obvious that it would have lead to the biggest hijacking in WWE history with Orton/Batista. Part of it was panic stations with Punk and part of it was trying to compromise before being forced to bow in. Again, fascinating TV where you were wondering when the shoe was going to drop. I know I can't really be surprised with bad ideas out of WWE at this point, so I'll say if there was anyone competent working there I would be baffled that they thought Batista vs Orton sounded like something people wanted as Mania main event Even Batista knew this was a bad idea, and he was being offered the main event of Mania! |
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