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Post by cjh on Mar 26, 2019 15:30:03 GMT -5
Credit: ShowBuzzDaily.com
2,589,000 Hour 1: 2,700,000 Hour 2: 2,665,000 Hour 3: 2,402,000
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 15:35:06 GMT -5
Both the first and third hours are down over 100,000 people from last week (second is around 60,000).
WrestleMania!
By comparison last year's show did...
Hour 1: 3.403 million Hour 2: 3.547 million Hour 3: 3.150 million Average: 3.366 million
But y'know, 800,000 people lost in a year's just a thing.
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Post by salz4life on Mar 26, 2019 15:38:43 GMT -5
Both the first and third hours are down over 100,000 people from last week (second is around 60,000). WrestleMania! By comparison last year's show did... Hour 1: 3.403 million Hour 2: 3.547 million Hour 3: 3.150 million Average: 3.366 million But y'know, 800,000 people lost in a year's just a thing. and they think they are going to pull 3 million on Fox? Maybe the first week.... after that, though???
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 26, 2019 15:39:35 GMT -5
That’s a mighty impressive loss of the audience.
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Post by Perd on Mar 26, 2019 15:41:36 GMT -5
This Mania is just so lackluster. I guess there’s still excitement for the main event. The Kofi Angle is pretty good, but that’s on the other show. Everything else, except maybe Orton vs. AJ is just incredibly meh.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 26, 2019 15:43:32 GMT -5
Those numbers are maddening.
The thing is, too, that not much has changed in the wider cultural landscape in a year. There are a couple more streaming services, sure, but it's not like a major shift has come in either sports broadcasting or the movie going audience to cause that massive a drop in a usual grand slam time.
I've said it before and I'll probably be saying it for the next while; this has been a LONG time coming. They have nobody to blame but themselves and not Netflix, Disney, the NFL etc.
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Post by Rican on Mar 26, 2019 15:45:17 GMT -5
They put literally the only interesting thing happening on RAW as the opener so I and I bet lots of other people tuned out after that was over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 16:00:03 GMT -5
Another thing - this week Raw was second in the 18-49 demo behind Love & Hip-Hop, which only did 2.086 million viewers total. Further confirming a large chunk (given the divide there probably at least half given there's no way they made up the entirety of Love & Hip-Hop's audience) of Raw's viewership is older and thus, basically irrelevant in the eyes of advertisers.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 26, 2019 16:11:44 GMT -5
Honestly at this point you need perfect booked shows for months to get back the views
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 16:15:19 GMT -5
I zoned out with the quickness once McIntyre showed up with a microphone. Raw is just such a nothing show. Nothing really happens, nothing that happens means anything, there are better entertainment options pretty much anywhere else.
I have no idea if AEW is going to amount to anything, but the timing is right for someone to change the landscape of the industry.
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Post by mystermystery on Mar 26, 2019 16:17:37 GMT -5
They literally don't have to care...therefore they don't.
I switched after McIntyre, the moment they hyped a daggone Triple H promo.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 26, 2019 16:26:47 GMT -5
Both the first and third hours are down over 100,000 people from last week (second is around 60,000). WrestleMania! By comparison last year's show did... Hour 1: 3.403 million Hour 2: 3.547 million Hour 3: 3.150 million Average: 3.366 million But y'know, 800,000 people lost in a year's just a thing. The bleeding is at its fastest and most dire right now, and it's kind of astounding. WWE is going to enter into these new TV contracts with a whole bunch of angry execs astounded at how bad the turnaround has been since the deals were inked.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 26, 2019 16:36:22 GMT -5
Look at these f***ing heels. Drew Mac is alright, but he's dull. Corbin and Lashley are dog water, with Corbin especially getting the go-away heat. Those are the main heels, not counting The Big Lez and his absent Universal title run. Elias is a heel too but never seems to be involved in anything important, ditto for Jinder.
How can you have a show with such lame heels and expect good stories? Fans got behind Balor and Strowman as major babyfaces, and WWE screwed up Strowman and made sure the fans knew what position they decided was Balor's limit. Maybe people are tired of having their favorites being underutilized, booked stupidly, and passed over? This Kofi push on Smackdown showcases how good WWE could be if they just went with the flow of things and pulled the trigger on people when they're the hottest and most over. Becky, despite how they botched this story, also demonstrates how good things could be when they just listen.
The show's boring. Smackdown, while far from perfect, is so much better and easier to watch than Raw. Joe and Bryan are amazing heels, and you don't see fans wanting Bryan to go away like Corbin, he's someone you love to boo and see get his ass handed to him. I hope the Kofi experiment pays off and we see more of this sort of thing going forward, because if Raw did stuff like this, it'd probably start reflecting in the ratings a little more.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 26, 2019 16:37:47 GMT -5
I will go down with this ship.
I won’t give up on Baron and surrender.
There’ll be no less than seven Corbin segments.
I’m in love, and always will be~
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 26, 2019 17:36:05 GMT -5
I'm sort of perplexed as to why WWE keeps putting Ambrose in main event segments when he is obviously out the door and jobbing. I think I'd send Lashley to SD in the draft, send Corbin to the unemployment line, but that still leaves McIntyre. They're pushing him on Raw.
Serious question: If things like ratings or attendance actually mattered right now would WWE even remotely consider main eventing a women's match at WM? Or even pushing this stuff at all? I tend to doubt it. It's blatantly obvious the heavy handed nature of the Women's Revolution in WWE is alienating viewers.
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Post by dbrussel on Mar 26, 2019 17:45:45 GMT -5
That Love & Hip Hop show with the comeback!! It has to be rare for WWE not to be the highest rated show on cable during WM season.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 26, 2019 17:47:31 GMT -5
Serious question: If things like ratings or attendance actually mattered right now would WWE even remotely consider main eventing a women's match at WM? Or even pushing this stuff at all? I tend to doubt it. It's blatantly obvious the heavy handed nature of the Women's Revolution in WWE is alienating viewers. You've been saying this for months now and it's honestly getting really tedious because 1) You have no real evidence that it's just the women causing all this outside of your own biases and 2) You're ignoring all the other factors that have caused the downtrend in WWE's rating the past year, especially since most of the shows have been headlined with members of The Shield, McIntyre, Corbin, Lashley, Joe and even Miz. Hell, you're ignoring the past 10 years of making the people around a select few look like utter bums that nobody wants to watch.
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Post by edgestar on Mar 26, 2019 17:48:18 GMT -5
I'm sort of perplexed as to why WWE keeps putting Ambrose in main event segments when he is obviously out the door and jobbing. I think I'd send Lashley to SD in the draft, send Corbin to the unemployment line, but that still leaves McIntyre. They're pushing him on Raw. Serious question: If things like ratings or attendance actually mattered right now would WWE even remotely consider main eventing a women's match at WM? Or even pushing this stuff at all? I tend to doubt it. It's blatantly obvious the heavy handed nature of the Women's Revolution in WWE is alienating viewers. Except for it not being "blatantly obvious". There are a lot of things that alienate viewers, but blaming it on the women, stops here. People also want a consistent universal champion, and Brock isn't there, weekly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 17:49:30 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like the third hour might be a death blow for Drew's push. To me at least it feels like having a random unannounced Last Man Standing match was an attempt to see if people would stick around to watch him after several weeks of ratings dropping when he's around and the end result is, no, they didn't.
But then again the exact same thing happened with Corbin and a TLC match a few months ago and they haven't backed off with him either.
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 26, 2019 17:52:25 GMT -5
Has it been any more obvious that WWE just has no reason to give a f***? They have their massive Fox Smackdown contract, less massive but still substantial USA Raw contract, and of course, Saudi blood money. They're at the point where they could just have give Baron Corbin a three hour monologue and it wouldn't really change much of anything from a business standpoint.
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